Congressional panel investigating the origins of Covid finds that the virus originated in a lab .

[JoeB131]

How about for their COVID vaccines?

I suppose if there were really any danger from them, the fact that Trump cut all that red tape to get them on the market quickly would give them immunity. But since there isn't, it's a moot point.

But you agree that a company should be held accountable for reckless marketing, correct?

Not all of them. And the ones who were released were released by Democrats.

The dangerous ones were. We don't have the prison space for even our own criminals, that's the problem, guy.

So your answer is to ban guns and release criminals.

Ban guns... no, but certainly make them a lot harder to get.
For criminals- we throw a kid in jail for a petty offense, have him brutalized by the system, and when he gets out, he has no job prospects other than crime.

How is that smart?

Nobody else does it this way.

Except Fauci funded fiddling with them so they're transmissible to humans.

Fauci knowingly funded biological weapons.

That's insanely illegal.

The only thing that is insane is that you think that's true.

 

[daveman]

I suppose if there were really any danger from them, the fact that Trump cut all that red tape to get them on the market quickly would give them immunity. But since there isn't, it's a moot point.

So, a vaccine that had almost no clinical trials was rushed out into the population, and the government granted the manufacturers immunity from lawsuits while it was mandating people take the shot.

I know you see nothing wrong with that, because you believe everything the government tells you. But that's extraordinarily bad medicine.

But you agree that a company should be held accountable for reckless marketing, correct?

"Reckless marketing". You mean like Harris' Presidential campaign?

Again, for the leftism-impaired, manufacturers have no control over how people use their products.

The dangerous ones were. We don't have the prison space for even our own criminals, that's the problem, guy.

So, Democrats released known violent criminals back out into the public...and you're okay with that, too.

The smart thing to do would be to deport them, so they couldn't harm any more Americans.

Democrats, apparently, have no problem with illegals harming Americans.

Democrats are bastards.

Ban guns... no, but certainly make them a lot harder to get.

How many gun laws do you think we need before criminals start obeying them?

For criminals- we throw a kid in jail for a petty offense, have him brutalized by the system, and when he gets out, he has no job prospects other than crime.

How is that smart?

Nobody else does it this way.

I agree prison reform is needed. But releasing violent criminals back onto the street is not the right answer.

The only thing that is insane is that you think that's true.

Really? What medical purpose was to be gained from making COVID more easily transmissible to and among humans?

 

[JoeB131]

So, a vaccine that had almost no clinical trials was rushed out into the population, and the government granted the manufacturers immunity from lawsuits while it was mandating people take the shot.

I know you see nothing wrong with that, because you believe everything the government tells you. But that's extraordinarily bad medicine.

First, three years of whining, and you really haven't proven any danger in the vaccines.

Second, the quick deployment of the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

"Reckless marketing". You mean like Harris' Presidential campaign?

Nope, but I can see you are losing an argument.

So, Democrats released known violent criminals back out into the public...and you're okay with that, too.

Never happened.

How many gun laws do you think we need before criminals start obeying them?

Guy, criminals aren't the problem.
The problem is the guy who shoots his wife because she burned the pot roast.
Or the crazy person who shoots up a preschool because the voices in his head told him to.

Getting guns out of those hands would do a lot.

 

[daveman]

First, three years of whining, and you really haven't proven any danger in the vaccines.

I'm sure that's quite a relief to all the young people who developed myocarditis after they got jabbed.

You just tell them they're making it up.

Second, the quick deployment of the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

There is absolutely no way to prove that, same as the ridiculous claim that people who got COVID after they got the shot (remember when we were told the shot would prevent getting COVID?) didn't get as sick as they would if they hadn't gotten the shot.

But your great god government told you to believe it, so you did.

Nope, but I can see you are losing an argument.

I see Obamacare didn't cure your Chronic Stick-Up-The-Ass Syndrome.

Never happened.

Yes, it did. I showed you it did.

Guy, criminals aren't the problem.

Remember, kids -- criminals aren't a problem. They never hurt or kill or rape people. They're just -- misunderstood.

The problem is the guy who shoots his wife because she burned the pot roast.
Or the crazy person who shoots up a preschool because the voices in his head told him to.

Very, very rare.

Getting guns out of those hands would do a lot.

Sounds like the existing laws already on the books need to be enforced before we start adding to the pile.

 

[JoeB131]

I'm sure that's quite a relief to all the young people who developed myocarditis after they got jabbed.

You just tell them they're making it up.

They pretty much are.

Myocarditis following COVID‐19 vaccine: incidence, presentation, diagnosis, pathophysiology, therapy, and outcomes put into perspective. A clinical consensus document supported by the Heart Failure Association of the European Society of Cardiology (E

Over 10 million doses of COVID‐19 vaccines based on RNA technology, viral vectors, recombinant protein, and inactivated virus have been administered worldwide. Although generally very safe, post‐vaccine myocarditis can result from adaptive humoral ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Like 1 in 100,000.

There is absolutely no way to prove that, same as the ridiculous claim that people who got COVID after they got the shot (remember when we were told the shot would prevent getting COVID?) didn't get as sick as they would if they hadn't gotten the shot.

Dave: "I hates the gummit, except when they are sending me money!"

Here's the thing. We know the shot was effective because the number of Covid Deaths plummeted after the shots were introduced.

Sounds like the existing laws already on the books need to be enforced before we start adding to the pile.

The laws we have are ineffective, if a guy like James Holmes can buy a 100 round magazine and an automatic rifle.

Very, very rare.

Not really. Most gun homicides are people who know each other. The argument between family or neighbors which got completely out of hand, and some idiot brought a gun.

 

[daveman]

They pretty much are.

Myocarditis following COVID‐19 vaccine: incidence, presentation, diagnosis, pathophysiology, therapy, and outcomes put into perspective. A clinical consensus document supported by the Heart Failure Association of the European Society of Cardiology (E

Over 10 million doses of COVID‐19 vaccines based on RNA technology, viral vectors, recombinant protein, and inactivated virus have been administered worldwide. Although generally very safe, post‐vaccine myocarditis can result from adaptive humoral ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Like 1 in 100,000.

You're such a good little worshiper of the State.

Normal people don't trust the government anymore.

Dave: "I hates the gummit, except when they are sending me money!"

Here's the thing. We know the shot was effective because the number of Covid Deaths plummeted after the shots were introduced.

Uh huh. Except for all the old people in nursing homes when Democrat governors put COVID patients in there.

The laws we have are ineffective, if a guy like James Holmes can buy a 100 round magazine and an automatic rifle.

He didn't buy an automatic rifle. It was a semi-automatic.

It wasn't a failure of the laws; it was a failure of the mental health system, which did not commit him for treatment.

Not really. Most gun homicides are people who know each other. The argument between family or neighbors which got completely out of hand, and some idiot brought a gun.

Snopes says that's bullshit.

 

[yidnar]

But only one of them is designed to kill people and has an industry fighting to distribute them to as many people who have no business having them as they can.



Petty crimes, I guess.

Ones white folks would get probation for.

should people injured by drunk drivers be able to sue alcohol producers and car companies ?

 

[JoeB131]

ou're such a good little worshiper of the State.

Normal people don't trust the government anymore.

These people look "Normal" to you?

Uh huh. Except for all the old people in nursing homes when Democrat governors put COVID patients in there.

Where else were they going to put them? The hospitals were swamped, their families, for the most part, didn't want them or couldn't take care of them.

Nursing homes had the capacity to care for people and were usually familiar with their ailments.

He didn't buy an automatic rifle. It was a semi-automatic.

It wasn't a failure of the laws; it was a failure of the mental health system, which did not commit him for treatment.

I'm sure that was a relief to the 17 people he shot. "See, honey, this gaping chest wound came from a SEMI-AUTOMATIC, that makes it okay!!!"

No, it was a failure of having adequate background checks. Everyone in his life knew he was nuts. They fucker was dying his hair orange and thought he was the fucking Joker from the Batman movies.

Snopes says that's bullshit.

Actually, Snopes says that only 20% of gun homicides happen in relation to other crimes.

While the number of family/acquaintance murders is probably not 80%, it is definitely over 50%.

 

[daveman]

These people look "Normal" to you?

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You own a pussy hat, I'll bet.

Where else were they going to put them? The hospitals were swamped, their families, for the most part, didn't want them or couldn't take care of them.

Nursing homes had the capacity to care for people and were usually familiar with their ailments.

They had more room after the old people died with COVID the Democrat governors put into the nursing homes.

I'm sure that was a relief to the 17 people he shot. "See, honey, this gaping chest wound came from a SEMI-AUTOMATIC, that makes it okay!!!"

You lied. You got busted on it. I'm not interested in your little tantrums, boy.

No, it was a failure of having adequate background checks. Everyone in his life knew he was nuts. They fucker was dying his hair orange and thought he was the fucking Joker from the Batman movies.

If the mental health system had reported him, the background check would have flagged him and he wouldn't have been able to purchase a firearm.

As usual, you're angry at the wrong people.

Actually, Snopes says that only 20% of gun homicides happen in relation to other crimes.

While the number of family/acquaintance murders is probably not 80%, it is definitely over 50%.

There is an astounding lack of sources in your post. Well, it's not so much astounding as completely normal for you.

 

[JoeB131]

You lied. You got busted on it. I'm not interested in your little tantrums, boy.

Nope, I'm just not as hung up on the difference between semi and full auto.

It's still an automatic weapon.

If the mental health system had reported him, the background check would have flagged him and he wouldn't have been able to purchase a firearm.

As usual, you're angry at the wrong people.

If someone did a background investigation, they'd have found out he was nuts.
No one did that.

Now, my solution is simple. You sell someone a SEMI-automatic weapons and they use it to mow down a preschool, the people who lost family members should be able to sue you. Then you can prove to a jury why your sale was totally legit.

There is an astounding lack of sources in your post. Well, it's not so much astounding as completely normal for you.

I don't do links unless I feel like them. Why? You guys never read them, or when you do, you pick out one sentence you seem to think supports your point.

 

[daveman]

Nope, I'm just not as hung up on the difference between semi and full auto.

It's still an automatic weapon.

Words have meanings. You don't get to change them to make your claims scarier.

If someone did a background investigation, they'd have found out he was nuts.
No one did that.

He passed the background check because the numerous mental health people who checked him out did not report their concerns.

Again -- you're angry at the wrong people.

Now, my solution is simple. You sell someone a SEMI-automatic weapons and they use it to mow down a preschool, the people who lost family members should be able to sue you. Then you can prove to a jury why your sale was totally legit.

Your solution is garbage. Since mental health professionals failed in their duty in this case, they would be the proper targets of families' lawsuits.

Meanwhile, manufacturers have no control over the use people make of their product.

But your irrational hatred of guns won't let you acknowledge that.

I don't do links unless I feel like them. Why? You guys never read them, or when you do, you pick out one sentence you seem to think supports your point.

Because it usually does. Meanwhile, I'm not going to accept the things you say simply because you say them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

it appears that the lefts claims about the origin of COVID [which mysteriously coincided with their Chicom allies claims] coming from nature has been found to be false by a Congressional Panel investigating the origins of COVID .. said panel has found the yes Covid did originate in a lab ..

https://www.newsnationnow.com/health/coronavirus/covid-lab-leak-misinformation-report/

The republicans say it came from a lab?

Shocking.

 

[daveman]

The republicans say it came from a lab?

Shocking.

Democrats say it didn't.

What makes the Democrats more expert than Republicans? And no, "Because they told me so!" is inadmissible.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Democrats say it didn't.

They say we don't have good indication of that, and good reason to believe the virus jumped from animals.

Because that's true.

 

[daveman]

They say we don't have good indication of that, and good reason to believe the virus jumped from animals.

Because that's true.

I said, "Because they told me so!" is inadmissible.

 

[yidnar]

The republicans say it came from a lab?

Shocking.

the truth is shocking and triggering to Dems .

 

[JoeB131]

Words have meanings. You don't get to change them to make your claims scarier.

Okay, Semi-Automatic is still a type of automatic. As in higher rate of fire.

He passed the background check because the numerous mental health people who checked him out did not report their concerns.

He passed a background check because one wasn't done.

Your solution is garbage. Since mental health professionals failed in their duty in this case, they would be the proper targets of families' lawsuits.

Meanwhile, manufacturers have no control over the use people make of their product.

Sure they do. They are responsible for the distribution and marketing. They spend millions lobbying to keep background checks weak.

Now, if they knew they had liability when someone shoots up a theater with one of their products, you betcha they will set up a background check system that would rival that of the banks.

 

[Unkotare]

...

What makes the Democrats more expert than Republicans? And no, "Because they told me so!" is inadmissible.

That's about all democrats ever base an "argument" on. Variations include "everyone knows," "there is no question" and "you can't deny."

 

[Blisterfinger]

you didn't care about COVID spreading ?? wow ! just WOW ! you may be the 1st member of this board a put on ignore ! the face it commie ! the lefts chicom allies own the COVID outbreak !

Moonglow just makes it up as she goes. Typical Democrat

 

[daveman]

Okay, Semi-Automatic is still a type of automatic. As in higher rate of fire.

Bitterly clinging to bullshit.

He passed a background check because one wasn't done.

Wrong. All Federal laws were complied with by the sellers.

Police: Colo. Shooting Suspect Bought Guns Legally​

Your argument falls flat. If the mental health professionals who saw him had done their jobs, he wouldn't have been able to purchase any weapons. Your irrational hatred of firearms won't let you place the blame where it belongs.

Sure they do. They are responsible for the distribution and marketing. They spend millions lobbying to keep background checks weak.

Now, if they knew they had liability when someone shoots up a theater with one of their products, you betcha they will set up a background check system that would rival that of the banks.

You're wrong. You should just go ahead and accept that now, rather than continuing to look retarded.