Condemning communism

[dblack]

Wrong.

Wronger.

I'm telling you, China is your ticket to paradise.

 

[Desperado]

The only good commie is a dead commie, Prove me wrong!

 

[Rigby5]

Wronger.

I'm telling you, China is your ticket to paradise.

Wrongest.
China is state capitalism as implemented under Stalinism.
Socialism pretty much has to be a democratic republic, or you are not going to have anything communal.

 

[Rigby5]

The only good commie is a dead commie, Prove me wrong!

Easy.
Tell a single family that isn't communist.
Do families run a profit basis or communal?

 

[dblack]

Wrongest.
China is state capitalism as implemented under Stalinism.
Socialism pretty much has to be a democratic republic, or you are not going to have anything communal.

Any state that has that much power will, inevitably, be tyrannical - democratically or otherwise.

 

[Rigby5]

Any state that has that much power will, inevitably, be tyrannical - democratically or otherwise.

Socialism does not convey any power at all.
Instead, it made government more accountable, since they get the blame if anything goes wrong with the socialist utility.
Go back to basics, such as the fact almost all communities have a single, socialist, monopoly, water utility.
Does that give the state any more power?
Not at all.
All it does is mean you know who to complain to if the water is not up to standards, and you don't have to get into some long legal battle with a private company. You can influence your water service through your vote.

 

[dblack]

Socialism does not convey any power at all.
Instead, it made government more accountable, since they get the blame if anything goes wrong with the socialist utility.
Go back to basics, such as the fact almost all communities have a single, socialist, monopoly, water utility.
Does that give the state any more power?
Not at all.
All it does is mean you know who to complain to if the water is not up to standards, and you don't have to get into some long legal battle with a private company. You can influence your water service through your vote.

Yeah. You want businesses to be just as accountable as government. In other words, not at all.

If a company in a free market pisses me off, I don't have to dick around trying get to the moronic majority to agree with me. I just fire them.

 

[EvMetro]

10 points to anybody who can quote a lefty discussing communism as specified in the opening post.

 

[EvMetro]

Almost 500 posts on a thread about why lefties are always defending communism, and lefties still have not been able to do anything but shield communism from the scrutiny of being discussed as specified in the opening post. This very thread is an excellent example of why I started this thread in the first place.

 

[Colin norris]

Biden is a communist,

That is a blatant hate filled ignorant lie and you have no evidence of it.


and Trump was doing a good job of rooting out the deep state. That's why vermin like you hate him so much.

Trump never changed anything other than his staff who wouldn't obey his commands. He sent the country into recession with his tariffs.

Trump didn't overthrow anything. The fascist are turds like you who want Republicans arrested just because they disagree with you.

It was repubmicans supported by trump that smashed the capitol. Stop lying dickhead. I want everyone of those thugs to be in jail for the no surrection. They are shit and nothing else.


Biden and his sleazy Dims are turning this country into a police. We know all your mewling about democracy is a scam. No one hates democracy more than democrats.

It was republicans who conspired the overthrow of democracy, not democrats.
That's a fact and is why they are being investigated.

You're problem is that of a Republican simpleton. No fucking brains. You don't care about American as long as you have a republican president who's a dictator
yet tell me dems arent democratic.
You know fuck all and are a brain d3ad hypocrite.

Stick with your bible you hypocrite.
You're all the same you godbothering republicans. Teump lost because he was a fool and the people showed him that.
You're a fool for supporting the ratbag.

 

[Rigby5]

Yeah. You want businesses to be just as accountable as government. In other words, not at all.

If a company in a free market pisses me off, I don't have to dick around trying get to the moronic majority to agree with me. I just fire them.

Wrong.
Its the exact opposite.
A private company only wants profits, so will scrimp, lie, cheat, refuse, etc., while a government company does not care about profits, so will do exactly what you want.

 

[Rigby5]

10 points to anybody who can quote a lefty discussing communism as specified in the opening post.

Here is your first post:|
{...
Naturally, on a political discussion site, there is a lot of discussion about communism. The pattern that I see over and over is condemnation of communism from righties, and support and defense of communism from lefties. Why don't we see lefties condemning communism? Even in this very thread, we will see lefties trying to protect communism with attempts to derail the thread instead of condemning communism. Why don't lefties condemn it?
...}
And it is totally wrong.
Communism is natural to all humans, is how all families and primitive tribes have always been.
Anyone who condemns communism, does not know what communism is,

 

[dblack]

Wrong.
Its the exact opposite.

China. Srsly. You'll love it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Not anyone who only has fallacy instead of any valid argment.

That would be you in every argument.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Here is your first post:|
{...
Naturally, on a political discussion site, there is a lot of discussion about communism. The pattern that I see over and over is condemnation of communism from righties, and support and defense of communism from lefties. Why don't we see lefties condemning communism? Even in this very thread, we will see lefties trying to protect communism with attempts to derail the thread instead of condemning communism. Why don't lefties condemn it?
...}
And it is totally wrong.
Communism is natural to all humans, is how all families and primitive tribes have always been.
Anyone who condemns communism, does not know what communism is,

Wrong.

Communism is not natural it is imposed by force and violence which by definition makes it unnatural. It is not how primitive tribes have always been.

Anyone who condemns it understands it perfectly.

 

[Rigby5]

China. Srsly. You'll love it.

We have been over this.
Stalin killed all the communists so that he could implement state capitalism instead.
Was Stalin profit motived for himself, or did he work for the greater communal good?
There really is nothing remotely confusing about this.
If Stalin had been remotely a communist, then there would not be the wealthy, elite, oligarchs running Russia now.

 

[dblack]

We have been over this.
Stalin killed all the communists so that he could implement state capitalism instead.
Was Stalin profit motived for himself, or did he work for the greater communal good?
There really is nothing remotely confusing about this.
If Stalin had been remotely a communist, then there would not be the wealthy, elite, oligarchs running Russia now.

Stalin who?

Also, so what?

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong.

Communism is not natural it is imposed by force and violence which by definition makes it unnatural. It is not how primitive tribes have always been.

Anyone who condemns it understands it perfectly.

Wrong.
Communism is the will of the majority so it could never be imposed by force or ever need to be.
Communism is where people collectively decide how to pool any excess resources they would like to invest in their mutually beneficial endeavors,

The only people who do not like that are those who are so greedy, selfish, and material, that they would prefer if people did not have the basics they need, so that profit could be made selling them what they should have already had.

 

[Rigby5]

Stalin who?

Also, so what?

Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin.

He was a bank robber the idealist socialists and communist hired to raise money for them.
After they made him party secretary, he had them all killed off, like Trotsky.

The "so what" is that you don't know anything about what communism is like because capitalists have never allowed it to be done on a scale later than families, religious communes, or primitive tribes.

 

[dblack]

Wrong.
Communism is the will of the majority so it could never be imposed by force or ever need to be.

WTF????