Condemning communism

[maybelooking]

EvMetro, Correll, you're doing a very admirable job......but your fingers will eventually get tired. I just don't have the patience others have I suppose.

 

[Correll]

EvMetro, Correll, you're doing a very admirable job......but your fingers will eventually get tired. I just don't have the patience others have I suppose.

My fingers ARE feeling tired. Impressive.

 

[Mac-7]

Calling the current ruling philosophy of China Maoism is laughable. China is a hybrid of every economic and social means available to control a populace. There's no ideology present, just the worst parts of capitalism and communism all rolled up in a weaponized economy.

We tend to agree

Communism is always the same at its core

It seeks total control of the people and power for its own sake

As for china being capitalist thats an illusion

It allowed limited economic freedom to individuals over a 25 year period

But that era is coming to a close

 

[occupied]

We tend to agree

Communism is always the same at its core

It seeks total control of the people and power for its own sake

As for china being capitalist thats an illusion

It allowed limited economic freedom to individuals over a 25 year period

But that era is coming to a close

No one has ever needed communism to form an oppressive government. It's a Johnny-come-lately in the long history of human tyranny. Every country has the same basic problem of feeding the people and maintaining order. Doing those two things is enough to keep any regime in power no matter what. Communism seeks to do this with compulsory employment and a daily food allotment. People who are usefully occupied and fed will support whatever political mumbo-jumbo makes that possible.

 

[dblack]

No one has ever needed communism to form an oppressive government.

It's not needed, but it sure helps. It gives servitude a new guise.

 

[occupied]

It's not needed, but it sure helps. It gives servitude a new guise.

No westernized democracy has ever voluntarily turned communist. It's not a danger to any stable country. Communism can look pretty attractive to a people who have nothing left to lose to the ruling plutocrats.

 

[Mac-7]

Communism seeks to do this with compulsory employment and a daily food allotment.

Thats not the way its done in modern china

The CCP doesnt even accept responsibility for the basic needs of the people

 

[Smokin' OP]

Was Stalin in the room when FDR was talking about how nice of a guy he was?

NORMAL DIPLOMACY.

YES.
The US and Russia were allies at the time, both as a united front against Hitler, you moron.
Russia wasn't threatening the US or our allies either.
FDR never stated how nice Stalin was either, in person or otherwise.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Wrong thread commie, this one is not about Trump.

Sure it is.
Republicans accuse democrats of not condemning communism, then they must be FOR communism.
Of course, with no proof, just like Trump.

Wrong thread commie, this one is not about Trump.

Republicans ignore, not only Trump not condemning communism but praising communism.
But accuse others of being communist.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Who is that?

Kim Jong-un........................WOW.

 

[Correll]

YES.
The US and Russia were allies at the time, both as a united front against Hitler, you moron.
Russia wasn't threatening the US or our allies either.
FDR never stated how nice Stalin was either, in person or otherwise.

Stalin was not in the room. It was a rhetorical question to make the point. You fail.

 

[Kondor3]

Communism is not bad - on paper.

In practice is quite another matter.

Jesus of Nazareth, for example, was a communist.

"Go sell all that thou hast and give it to the poor and follow me".

With Him and His disciples living communally with goods in common.

Which is all well-and-good on the personal or small-group level but on a scaled-up large group or national level it quickly morphs into something evil.

With the "evil" aspect focusing upon the coercion and force required to assert the system and to enforce compliance.

 

[dblack]

Communism is not bad - on paper.

In practice is quite another matter.

Jesus of Nazareth, for example, was a communist.

"Go sell all that thou hast and give it to the poor and follow me".

With Him and His disciples living communally with goods in common.

Which is all well-and-good on the personal or small-group level but on a scaled-up large group or national level it quickly morphs into something evil.

With the "evil" aspect focusing upon the coercion and force required to assert the system and to enforce compliance.

Communism is more than people living communally. It's government forcing people to live communally.

 

[Kondor3]

Communism is more than people living communally. It's government forcing people to live communally.

Which, I believe, is exactly what I said...

 

[dblack]

Which, I believe, is exactly what I said...

Well, you said "Jesus was a communist", which didn't sound right.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism is not bad - on paper.

In practice is quite another matter.

Jesus of Nazareth, for example, was a communist.

"Go sell all that thou hast and give it to the poor and follow me".

With Him and His disciples living communally with goods in common.

Which is all well-and-good on the personal or small-group level but on a scaled-up large group or national level it quickly morphs into something evil.

With the "evil" aspect focusing upon the coercion and force required to assert the system and to enforce compliance.

The Jesus Character was no communist. Communism is not communal living by choice. It is enslavement by force and takung the product of some to give to others without their consent.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Stalin was not in the room. It was a rhetorical question to make the point. You fail.

You're FOS.
Stalin and FDR met in Tehran in 1943 with Churchill.

Of course you have no link of FDR saying nice things about Stalin.
More GQP deflection for your treasonous dear leader.

 

[Correll]

You're FOS.
Stalin and FDR met in Tehran in 1943 with Churchill.

Of course you have no link of FDR saying nice things about Stalin.
More GQP deflection for your treasonous dear leader.

I posted the quote. It was FDR talking ABOUT stalin, not TO stalin. You are a moron.

Leaders talk diplomatic bullshit all the time. It is part of the job.

Trump tried to work towards PEACE on the Korean Peninsula. It was pretty much doomed from the beginning, but he tried.

And you libs want to attack him for THAT?


You are all soulless monsters.

 

[Kondor3]

The Jesus Character was no communist. Communism is not communal living by choice. It is enslavement by force and takung the product of some to give to others without their consent.

Communism is communal living.

Communism is ALSO a system of government ostensibly devoted to communal living but in practice morphing into coercive autocracy or oligarchy.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Communism is communal living.

Communism is ALSO a system of government ostensibly devoted to communal living but in practice morphing into coercive autocracy or oligarchy.

Communismm is not communal living nor is it a government ostensibly devoted to communal living.

It is a system of government designed to enslave and control all people.