Competency Doesn't Mean White!

[JoeB131]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

2018, I worked for a company as a contractor. During the short time I was a contractor there, I fixed their internal company transfer system and documented procedures to make them ISO 9000 compliant.

A job came open, and they hired a black woman with five years less experience than me. When she got to the job, she couldn't keep up with the work and was unable to learn basic processes. She spent about half her day shopping on Amazon.

2002- I was on another contract job. Instead of bringing me on full-time, they hired a Chinese national (female). You know, over a White American Veteran.

1994 - Despite having more seniority at the company, they promoted a white female to a supervisor position despite my being with the company longer and having actual supervisory experience from the Army. (I eventually got a supervisory position at this company, and this woman eventually quit.)

And these are the ones I KNOW about because, hey, I was actually on site and saw it happen. I couldn't tell you how many jobs I applied for, and I have no idea who got the job.

Please don't tell me AA or DEI doesn't result in more qualified white males losing out to less qualified minority and female candidates.

Now, that said, I know I've gotten opportunities through my connections, and being a Veteran has given me a leg up in more than a few job interviews.

 

[JoeB131]

Here's why DEI is failing.

Because most of the people it is meant to help don't really want it or need it.

Asian Americans don't need DEI, and in some ways, feel it limits them when Universities put a hard cap on how many Asians they would have accepted based on test scores.

White women don't need DEI, because it's a long time since women's lib, and most women cringe at the thought of Feminists.

 

[multivita-man]

This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color.

The stereotype that black people seek quota systems and don't want to work hard dates back to the moment slavery came to an end in this country.

The Freedman's Bureau! An agency to keep the Negro in idleness at the expense of the white man. Twice vetoed by the President, and made a lawy by Congress. Support Congress & you support the Negro Sustain the President & you protect the white man

1 print : woodcut on wove paper ; 45.5 x 58.1 cm. (image) | One in a series of racist posters attacking Radical Republicans on the issue of black suffrage, issued during the Pennsylvania gubernatorial election of 1866. (See also "The Constitutional Amendment!," no. 1866-5.) The series advocates...

www.loc.gov

 

[Hellokitty]

True. The propaganda has worked because of racism. Nobody is being given special treatment.

When limited number of black people and white women peruse an education in a specific field and employers have to meet certain quotes often a less qualified person is hired to check boxes. Keep in mind black men and white women only check 1 box whereas black women checks 2.

 

[multivita-man]

2018, I worked for a company as a contractor. During the short time I was a contractor there, I fixed their internal company transfer system and documented procedures to make them ISO 9000 compliant.

A job came open, and they hired a black woman with five years less experience than me. When she got to the job, she couldn't keep up with the work and was unable to learn basic processes. She spent about half her day shopping on Amazon.

2002- I was on another contract job. Instead of bringing me on full-time, they hired a Chinese national (female). You know, over a White American Veteran.

1994 - Despite having more seniority at the company, they promoted a white female to a supervisor position despite my being with the company longer and having actual supervisory experience from the Army. (I eventually got a supervisory position at this company, and this woman eventually quit.)

And these are the ones I KNOW about because, hey, I was actually on site and saw it happen. I couldn't tell you how many jobs I applied for, and I have no idea who got the job.

Please don't tell me AA or DEI doesn't result in more qualified white males losing out to less qualified minority and female candidates.

Now, that said, I know I've gotten opportunities through my connections, and being a Veteran has given me a leg up in more than a few job interviews.

This is a fair, balanced post. I do think that in some cases *AA/DEI/outreach/whatever can result in some people who shouldn't get hired over some people who should -- I don't deny that it does sometimes happen. I don't think it's the majority of the time, but it happens.

On the flip side, you mention connections, which is relevant to this discussion. I'm not necessarily addressing or speaking to your 'connections' here because I don't know you, what those connections are, how you developed them, and how you leveraged them.

But what I will say is that a lot of people tend to take things like social networks for granted, and by social networks, I don't mean Facebook or Instagram or LinkedIn. Without necessarily speaking to individual cases, because those always vary, I believe that white people, on balance, have easier access to the social networks that really matter: the social networks that hire people, that lend money, that work in law enforcement, the judicial system, the financial system, and so on.

Again, individual results vary. I was born into a relatively strong social network by virtue of the fact that my dad was a local prominent physician and our family had lived in our hometown off and on for decades. Over time, as relatives have died off, as I've moved away from one place to the next, the strength of that network has dissipated, and I've never been good at forming new social networks, but, I get by. And I know that because of who I am and who I still know back in my hometown that I've not visited in 15 years, I could still go back and make a living and reconnect with people if the bottom fell out from under my feet here (Northern Virginia). That's the power of social networks.

People who were born into slavery and then subjected to decades of post-slavery racism and deliberately segregated have been forced into social networks that, while they have a lot of social value amongst each other, don't have the same economic and political value that their white counterparts have. Once again, I'm speaking in very general terms. There are obviously individuals like Ben Carson or Kamala Harris or whoever who form their own valuable networks on their own, but I guess what I'd say is that it's harder for them. They're exceptional. Most people aren't exceptional. Most people - myself included - are average. Maybe above average in some areas, and below it in others. We're somewhere on a spectrum.

 

[Godboy]

Nobody is being given special treatment.

At least not anymore now that we killed DEI.

 

[JoeB131]

This is a fair, balanced post. I do think that in some cases *AA/DEI/outreach/whatever can result in some people who shouldn't get hired over some people who should -- I don't deny that it does sometimes happen. I don't think it's the majority of the time, but it happens.

On the flip side, you mention connections, which is relevant to this discussion. I'm not necessarily addressing or speaking to your 'connections' here because I don't know you, what those connections are, how you developed them, and how you leveraged them.

But what I will say is that a lot of people tend to take things like social networks for granted, and by social networks, I don't mean Facebook or Instagram or LinkedIn. Without necessarily speaking to individual cases, because those always vary, I believe that white people, on balance, have easier access to the social networks that really matter: the social networks that hire people, that lend money, that work in law enforcement, the judicial system, the financial system, and so on.

Again, individual results vary. I was born into a relatively strong social network by virtue of the fact that my dad was a local prominent physician and our family had lived in our hometown off and on for decades. Over time, as relatives have died off, as I've moved away from one place to the next, the strength of that network has dissipated, and I've never been good at forming new social networks, but, I get by. And I know that because of who I am and who I still know back in my hometown that I've not visited in 15 years, I could still go back and make a living and reconnect with people if the bottom fell out from under my feet here (Northern Virginia). That's the power of social networks.

People who were born into slavery and then subjected to decades of post-slavery racism and deliberately segregated have been forced into social networks that, while they have a lot of social value amongst each other, don't have the same economic and political value that their white counterparts have. Once again, I'm speaking in very general terms. There are obviously individuals like Ben Carson or Kamala Harris or whoever who form their own valuable networks on their own, but I guess what I'd say is that it's harder for them. They're exceptional. Most people aren't exceptional. Most people - myself included - are average. Maybe above average in some areas, and below it in others. We're somewhere on a spectrum.

I agree with everything you say here.

A point on connections and on Asian Americans. One of the jobs I got was because an Asian-American female I had mentored earlier in her career was at a company that had an opening. That put my resume at the top of the pile. (And this was during the worst of Covid). Now, obviously, my experience spoke for itself, and my resume is well-written (I have a resume writing business as a side gig), and I did very well in the interview, but I doubt I would have gotten his job without her singing my praises.

A second point I would make that IM2 likes to ignore is that despite racism being a fact of life in America, Asian-Americans do very well, in many cases outperforming white people. The young lady I mentioned never worked in our field before. Today, she's a senior sourcing manager. So instead of complaining about how white people did them dirty (which we did, mea culpa), look at what Asian-Americans and a lot of Hispanic Americans are doing to promote themselves and succeed.

 

[luiza]

Should MAGA board the box-cars peacefully?

I would never have anything to do with MAGA under any circumstances , even though their top line sentiment is excellent .

They were infiltrated a long time ago and sub groups like the Proud Boys were not just infiltrated ,they rapidly were mainly composed of Intel and their assets .
Never lose sight of the watch word for everything ---

Chaos

Leads to Compliance and then full control .
Name of the Game .

 

[SeaMajor7]

I would never have anything to do with MAGA under any circumstances , even though their top line sentiment is excellent .

They were infiltrated a long time ago and sub groups like the Proud Boys were not just infiltrated ,they rapidly were mainly composed of Intel and their assets .
Never lose sight of the watch word for everything ---

Chaos

Leads to Compliance and then full control .
Name of the Game .

That's perfect Marxist PROJECTION.
Good show.

 

[multivita-man]

A second point I would make that IM2 likes to ignore is that despite racism being a fact of life in America, Asian-Americans do very well, in many cases outperforming white people.

This is where the discussion gets really complex. I have a hypothesis about what you've written here, and it has to do with cultures and how cultures evolved in the American context. East Asians, South Asians, European Jews, Arabs, Irish Catholics, Hispanic Americans, Southern Europeans...they all experienced some form of discrimination and rough treatment in their integration into American mainstream. They've suffered discrimination and maltreatment like Blacks and Native Americans have. True.

There are differences, though. Even among the groups I've described, some can pass for being "whiter" than others. Over time, the differences between various European Americans more or less blurred and faded. They became 'white' Americans, whereas maybe for East Asians and others, that process took/has taken more time because they are more visibly minority.

But going deeper, I think what I would submit is that culture matters, and certain cultural characteristics are advantageous (or disadvantageous, too). My now ex-wife is from China and I lived in Japan. I've worked a lot with immigrants from various backgrounds (was a former teacher who worked with int'l students).

The thing is, immigrants/migrants tend to form migration 'chains'. It starts with a few daring 'pioneers' in a peer group moving to a new home and getting set up with work, housing, and forming ethnic-based relationships. They, in turn, invite their families and friends they left behind, and the chain extends and gets longer. These migrants depend heavily on each other, even if they also sometimes compete with each other for jobs and influence in their communities. They form bonds and they're tight - out of necessity. It's really at the core of who we are as a species when you think about it. Humans are social animals.

When you compare the migration chains and community-building that takes place among immigrants to the experiences of many black Americans who were intentionally and institutionally designated in the role of being cheap labor, it's just a different experience, historically speaking, so it's no surprise to me that the outcomes tend to be different. Black American culture, particularly in the South, evolved out of oppression and violence against them. I think you also see something similar among Native Americans, too.

When you think about what America is as a nation, it can be reduced to the fact that it is a nation built on land stolen from its people, built by people stolen from their land. It's no surprise to me that generations later, these groups as a whole have had the levels of dysfunction that are often the subject of political debate.

I know a lot of people will reject all of this and dismiss it out of hand. There was a time when I once did the same and had a similarly cynical reaction, but it's hard to ignore once someone reads about the real history of the U.S. of A.

 

[22lcidw]

This is where the discussion gets really complex. I have a hypothesis about what you've written here, and it has to do with cultures and how cultures evolved in the American context. East Asians, South Asians, European Jews, Arabs, Irish Catholics, Hispanic Americans, Southern Europeans...they all experienced some form of discrimination and rough treatment in their integration into American mainstream. They've suffered discrimination and maltreatment like Blacks and Native Americans have. True.

There are differences, though. Even among the groups I've described, some can pass for being "whiter" than others. Over time, the differences between various European Americans more or less blurred and faded. They became 'white' Americans, whereas maybe for East Asians and others, that process took/has taken more time because they are more visibly minority.

But going deeper, I think what I would submit is that culture matters, and certain cultural characteristics are advantageous (or disadvantageous, too). My now ex-wife is from China and I lived in Japan. I've worked a lot with immigrants from various backgrounds (was a former teacher who worked with int'l students).

The thing is, immigrants/migrants tend to form migration 'chains'. It starts with a few daring 'pioneers' in a peer group moving to a new home and getting set up with work, housing, and forming ethnic-based relationships. They, in turn, invite their families and friends they left behind, and the chain extends and gets longer. These migrants depend heavily on each other, even if they also sometimes compete with each other for jobs and influence in their communities. They form bonds and they're tight - out of necessity. It's really at the core of who we are as a species when you think about it. Humans are social animals.

When you compare the migration chains and community-building that takes place among immigrants to the experiences of many black Americans who were intentionally and institutionally designated in the role of being cheap labor, it's just a different experience, historically speaking, so it's no surprise to me that the outcomes tend to be different. Black American culture, particularly in the South, evolved out of oppression and violence against them. I think you also see something similar among Native Americans, too.

When you think about what America is as a nation, it can be reduced to the fact that it is a nation built on land stolen from its people, built by people stolen from their land. It's no surprise to me that generations later, these groups as a whole have had the levels of dysfunction that are often the subject of political debate.

I know a lot of people will reject all of this and dismiss it out of hand. There was a time when I once did the same and had a similarly cynical reaction, but it's hard to ignore once someone reads about the real history of the U.S. of A.

If people stopped screwing with people, it would help. Of course that is within reason.

 

[LeftofLeft]

It's another excuse for racism. Minorities shouldn't be given special treatment but ignoring them or disqualifying them because of prejudice is wrong too.

DEI is an excuse to put attributes over skills sets.

 

[marvin martian]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

www.salon.com

^^^Black klansman

 

[BrokeLoser]

It's another excuse for racism. Minorities shouldn't be given special treatment but ignoring them or disqualifying them because of prejudice is wrong too.

Asians and Indians have ran right past evil whitey on the socioeconomic scale…Blacks and Mexicans are dragging-ass due to inherent cultural defects. Evil whitey can’t improve their culture.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

www.salon.com

Competency Doesn't Mean White!​

Actually it pretty much does…look around the world for proof.

 

[Independent thinker]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

www.salon.com

The whole DEI thing is about discriminating against people in order to have less discrimination and by increasing inclusion by excluding people in order to have more inclusion.

 

[Stann]

Asians and Indians have ran right past evil whitey on the socioeconomic scale…Blacks and Mexicans are dragging-ass due to inherent cultural defects. Evil whitey can’t improve their culture.

No one is inherently evil. Some , not all , have problems. Everyone , even within groups , is different. Our similarities are greater than our differences , that should unite US to do better. Negative thinking seems to be winning right now , it won't last. Truth always matters.

 

[Meathead]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

www.salon.com

No, it means East Asian too.

 

[BackAgain]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

www.salon.com

Unlike you mindless racist fucktards, most people don’t ascribe competency or merit to race.

Assholes like you, IQ2, always see things through your racist lenses.

Stop copying and pasting all the racist shit you don’t even understand.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nor does merit. This whole DEI argument is based on the claim that competency and merit are passed ver because of color. Competency and merit do not mean white. Everybody white is not always the best qualified. It's never been that way even when whites were allowed to exclude us who were not white by law. The only reason why so many fields are dominated by whites today is due to the exclusion in the past, not superior white competence or merit. This current administration is just another example of 249 years of unqualified whites, specifically white men, who have been put in high offices over far more qualified people of color.

Donald Trump's war on DEI is not about "merit"​

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates​

onald Trump lies about everything, but the lies strewn throughout his executive order shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion, or DEI, policies in the federal government are especially taxing on one's credulity. Efforts to improve diversity, the order reads, "deny, discredit, and undermine the traditional American values of hard work, excellence, and individual achievement." This paean to the importance of "excellence" and "hard work" comes from a man who, a mere five years ago, looked a row of medical researchers and doctors in the eye and suggested he understood science better than they did, despite having not studied it for a day of his life. He then theorized that Lysol and bleach be used to treat COVID-19 patients "by injection inside, or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs," aware of the basic scientific principle that painting your lungs with poisonous substances will kill you.

The new executive order insists that recruiting diverse applicants is "diminishing the importance of individual merit, aptitude, hard work, and determination." It was signed by a man who has nominated Pete Hegseth, an understudy Fox News host, to run the Department of Defense. Hegseth's only prior administrative experience comes from running two small-time charities into the ground, resulting in his removal from leadership. This ode to the value of skills and knowledge comes from the same half-literate president who also nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run Health and Human Services, even though Kennedy claims cognitive decline from a brain worm and also refuses to accept the overwhelming scientific evidence showing that vaccines are safe and effective. The only reason the alleged testament to "merit" is even readable is because someone other than Trump wrote it. The "merit"-loving president famously can't get through a 240-character social media post without multiple grammatical errors and misspellings.

All three of these men embody the concept of incompetence, but they are white, straight and male. When Trump or any MAGA devotee is talking about "merit" or "excellence," that is what they mean: whiteness, straightness and maleness.

And the more incompetent or ignorant the straight white man is, the more he is held out as the exemplar of "merit" in MAGA-speak. For all the talk about opposition to discrimination and belief in a "colorblind" society, the actions of MAGA show that their true goal is reserving better jobs and opportunities for straight white men, while relegating women, LGBTQ folks and people of color to underpaid and lower-status employment.

MAGA's war on DEI is not about "merit"

Executive orders attacking DEI are about promoting unqualified white men over diverse candidates

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Where’s the DEI in the NFL or NBA?