Commutation of Stone Sentence Correct Move

[Slade3200]

The whole Stone case is based on Russia hacking the DNC and giving the info to Wikileaks, which has never been proven

You folks believe in so many right wing media inspired lies I can hardly keep up.

CIA Identifies Russians Who Gave DNC Emails to WikiLeaks

Officials say the report concludes Russia tried to help Donald Trump's campaign.

time.com

Mueller report sheds new light on how the Russians hacked the DNC and the Clinton campaign | TechCrunch

The Mueller report contains new information about how the Russian government hacked documents and emails from Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and

techcrunch.com

Now show me where the FBI did an independent review of the DNC servers?

PolitiFact - Trump mentioned the ‘Crowdstrike’ conspiracy during his call with Ukraine. Here’s what that means

Right after President Donald Trump asked the president of Ukraine "do us a favor," Trump made an unexplained r

www.politifact.com

Glad to see you acknowledge the FBI never did an independent investigation of the DNC servers and relied solely on Crowstrike who was hire by the DNC and even then the FBI only accessed a review as opposed to a full report...like I said the entire case against Stone is dependent on Russia having hacked the DNC server which the FBI has no way to prove happened since they never did an independent review.

Do you really think you know more about the details of these cases than the FBI?

No, I'm just going by what the FBI has admitted, being that they never conducted an independent investigation of the DNC server/cloud based imaging, nor did they review a final report from Crowdstrike.
It's amusing how liberals who support abolishing ICE and now Police are so trusting of the FBI.

Throw doubt and questions all you want but don’t pretend to know more than the people who actually have the intel. You have no clue about the details involved in investigating the DNC server. You got a talking point that sounds good but do you really know what’s technically involved?

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

 

[Slade3200]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

That's awful! The Russians should have never exposed Democrat wrongdoing.
Democrat wrongdoing must remain hidden.

 

[Slade3200]

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

That's awful! The Russians should have never exposed Democrat wrongdoing.
Democrat wrongdoing must remain hidden.

The act was illegal was it not?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

That's awful! The Russians should have never exposed Democrat wrongdoing.
Democrat wrongdoing must remain hidden.

The act was illegal was it not?

Absolutely!
Russian hackers should be shot!
And if they expose Hillary and Democrat crimes, shoot them twice!!!

 

[Slade3200]

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

That's awful! The Russians should have never exposed Democrat wrongdoing.
Democrat wrongdoing must remain hidden.

The act was illegal was it not?

Absolutely!
Russian hackers should be shot!
And if they expose Hillary and Democrat crimes, shoot them twice!!!

A little harsh for my taste but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

 

[Slade3200]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

 

[colfax_m]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

You’re talking to a “Seth Rich did it” conspiracy theorist. Anything that doesn’t confirm their nonsense is automatically deep state lies.

It’s almost impossible to penetrate their bubble.

 

[Slade3200]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

You’re talking to a “Seth Rich did it” conspiracy theorist. Anything that doesn’t confirm their nonsense is automatically deep state lies.

It’s almost impossible to penetrate their bubble.

Apparently so... these people fascinate me

 

[my2¢]

There was no Russian Crap.

I soon come to conclusion that congress was shamefully using Benghazi as merely political ammo against Hillary and not worth my time. During the early post-election months after Trump's election the sense I got was that the Democrats' only desire was to turn the tables. Specifically, the plate the Democrats were serving up was the crap to which I refer.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

It was not -
Your bubble has fucked you over info wise for 5 years (at least)
Why do you stay loyal to it?

 

[Billiejeens]

There was no Russian Crap.

I soon come to conclusion that congress was shamefully using Benghazi as merely political ammo against Hillary and not worth my time. During the early post-election months after Trump's election the sense I got was that the Democrats' only desire was to turn the tables. Specifically, the plate the Democrats were serving up was the crap to which I refer.

Benghazi was about running arms to foreign counties off the books.

 

[Slade3200]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

It was not -
Your bubble has fucked you over info wise for 5 years (at least)
Why do you stay loyal to it?

Why do I stay loyal? I don’t stay loyal I used logic and logic says that it is unrealistic to execute a conspiracy to push a lie about what the Russians did considering all the eyeballs what were on this investigation. The intel was reviewed by agents, inspected by two inspector generals, presented to congress in oversite and deemed credible in a bipartisan way. The Russian hacked the DNC and leaked it through Wikileaks. Stone was in contact with the Russian about this and lied/instructed the investigation. Barr has called his conviction righteous. That’s what happened. Sorry if you don’t like it.

you on the other hand haven’t seen any of the intel yet you think I you know that it’s all bullshit. Why’s that? Did Rush say so?

 

[berg80]

Well, when you take everything out of context

You're making a comparison between any commutation by Obama (or any prez) and Trump's commutation of Stone and then have the audacity to say I'm taking something out of context. Wow.

"On August 2, Stone again called then-candidate Trump, and the two spoke for approximately ten minutes. Again, we don’t know what was said, but less than an hour after speaking with Trump, Stone emailed an associate of his Jerome Corsi, to have someone else who was living in London“ see Assange.” Less than two days later, on August 2, 2016, Corsi emailed Stone. Corsi told Stone that, “Word is friend in embassy [Assange] plans 2 more dumps. One “in October” and that “impact planned to be very damaging,” “time to let more than Podesta to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC. That appears to be the game hackers are now about."
Around this time, Deputy Campaign Chairman Gates continued to have conversations with Stone about more information that would be coming out from WikiLeaks. Gates was also present for a phone call between Stone and Trump. While Gates couldn’t hear the content of the call, he could hear Stone’s voice on the phone and see his name on the caller ID. Thirty seconds after hanging up the phone with Stone, then-candidate Trump told Gates that there would be more information coming. Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, also stated that he was present for a phone call between Trump and Stone, where Stone told Trump 4 that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and in a couple of days WikiLeaks would release information, and Trump responded, “oh good, alright.” Paul Manafort also stated that he spoke with Trump about Stone’s predictions and his claimed access to WikiLeaks, and that Trump instructed Manafort to stay in touch with Stone. In his written answers to the Special Counsel’s Office, President Trump denied remembering anything about his conversations with Stone during the summer of 2016, and he denied being aware that Stone had discussed WikiLeaks with anyone associated with the campaign. One week after submitting his written answers, President Trump criticized “flipping” witnesses and stated that Stone was “very brave” in indicating he would not cooperate with prosecutors. The Special Counsel’s Report stated that the President’s statements complimenting Stone “support the inference that the President intended to communicate a message that witnesses could be rewarded for refusing to provide testimony adverse to the President[.]”

 

[berg80]

Benghazi was about running arms to foreign counties off the books.

That was the Iran-Contra Affair.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm guessing that Roger Stone had something to do with either Trump's campaign and/or the Russian crap. Concerning many things in this and past administrations I've consider my ignorance as bliss.

There was no Russian Crap.

Russians stole emails from the DNC and leaked them through Wikileaks. That’s Russian crap.

Except that didn't happen

Yes it did... it was uncovered and verified by the FBI. Do some research

You’re talking to a “Seth Rich did it” conspiracy theorist. Anything that doesn’t confirm their nonsense is automatically deep state lies.

It’s almost impossible to penetrate their bubble.

Apparently so... these people fascinate me

These People Versus You people.

These People said No - When you people said Candidate Trump will lose.
These People said No - When you people said the Convention would stop him.
These People said No - When you people said that Faithless Electors would stop Trump.
These People said No - When you people said that he wouldn't be sworn in (Even Biden said that was crazy)
These People said N0 - When you people said that Russian Collusion would stop President Trump
These People said N0 - When you people said that Mueller would stop Trump
These People said No - When you People said that the Ukraine Hoax would stop President Trump
These People said No - When you people said that Flynn, Cohen, Stormy & Avenatti, and Access Hollywood would stop Trump
These People said No - When you people said that North Korea would bring President Trump down.
These People said No - When you people said that his handling of Iran would bring President Trump down.
These People said N0 - When you people said that his handling of the death of Khashoggi would bring President Trump down.

The list is longer, but you get the idea (maybe)

These People have yet to be wrong
You people have yet to be right.

 

[Billiejeens]

Benghazi was about running arms to foreign counties off the books.

That was the Iran-Contra Affair.

They were similar

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, when you take everything out of context

You're making a comparison between any commutation by Obama (or any prez) and Trump's commutation of Stone and then have the audacity to say I'm taking something out of context. Wow.

"On August 2, Stone again called then-candidate Trump, and the two spoke for approximately ten minutes. Again, we don’t know what was said, but less than an hour after speaking with Trump, Stone emailed an associate of his Jerome Corsi, to have someone else who was living in London“ see Assange.” Less than two days later, on August 2, 2016, Corsi emailed Stone. Corsi told Stone that, “Word is friend in embassy [Assange] plans 2 more dumps. One “in October” and that “impact planned to be very damaging,” “time to let more than Podesta to be exposed as in bed w enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC. That appears to be the game hackers are now about."
Around this time, Deputy Campaign Chairman Gates continued to have conversations with Stone about more information that would be coming out from WikiLeaks. Gates was also present for a phone call between Stone and Trump. While Gates couldn’t hear the content of the call, he could hear Stone’s voice on the phone and see his name on the caller ID. Thirty seconds after hanging up the phone with Stone, then-candidate Trump told Gates that there would be more information coming. Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, also stated that he was present for a phone call between Trump and Stone, where Stone told Trump 4 that he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and in a couple of days WikiLeaks would release information, and Trump responded, “oh good, alright.” Paul Manafort also stated that he spoke with Trump about Stone’s predictions and his claimed access to WikiLeaks, and that Trump instructed Manafort to stay in touch with Stone. In his written answers to the Special Counsel’s Office, President Trump denied remembering anything about his conversations with Stone during the summer of 2016, and he denied being aware that Stone had discussed WikiLeaks with anyone associated with the campaign. One week after submitting his written answers, President Trump criticized “flipping” witnesses and stated that Stone was “very brave” in indicating he would not cooperate with prosecutors. The Special Counsel’s Report stated that the President’s statements complimenting Stone “support the inference that the President intended to communicate a message that witnesses could be rewarded for refusing to provide testimony adverse to the President[.]”

Oh no!! Wikileaks published info........
Doesn't the Washington Post do the same thing?