Commutation of Stone Sentence Correct Move

[Slade3200]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

Why would Barr’s DOJ prosecute him if there were no crimes? Is Barr in on the fixx?

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

I’m sorry if pointing out your own contradictions and fake statements is annoying to you. Try being honest and accurate with what you say and that won’t happen.

You only point out your inability to commit logic.

If that’s true then show where my logic falls apart. You don’t make any counterpoints. You just say your annoyed and throw out meaningless insults. Do better

 

[bripat9643]

Bonus question: Is using malicious prosecution of a third party for the political purpose of impeaching a President a legitimate use of our legal system?

Unlike Barr who started investigations of the people who did national security investigations. It was the NSA that called for the investigations.

Barr investigated people who broke the law and violated the rights of innocent people. McCabe, and Comey investigated innocent people and attempted to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

You just revealed that you're a craven servile boot-licker.

 

[theHawk]

*Stone, in fact, said the corrupt part out loud, in a conversation with NBC’s Howard Fineman shortly before Trump’s announcement. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,” Stone told Fineman. “It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”*

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/trumps-self-serving-help-roger-stone/

The takeaway here isn't hard to figure out. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,”...............meaning..............Stone didn't tell the damaging info he knew about.

What information was that?

"A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.
That testimony by Rick Gates at Stone’s trial contrasts with Trump’s claim last November that he did not recall speaking to Stone about WikiLeaks, the document disclosure group that during the 2016 campaign released emails stolen from the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s own campaign chief.

Gates testified in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., that less than a minute after finishing a July 2016 call from Stone, Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” from Wikileaks."

Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

Trump had told special counsel Robert Mueller last November in a written response, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with" Roger Stone.

www.cnbc.com

I'd say Stone earned more than a commutation for obstructing the investigation. He should get a penthouse suite in Trump Tower or a permanent room at Mar-A-Lago. Because if Stone hadn't betrayed the country, justice, and basic decency Individual 1 may very well have been impeachment for conspiracy (with Wikileaks) to defraud the voting public. This, on top of the 4 counts of obstruction Mueller provided evidence of in his report.

President Trump said, “I do not recall”. The Hillary immunity statement. Tough shit, asshat.

 

[Slade3200]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

Why would Barr’s DOJ prosecute him if there were no crimes? Is Barr in on the fixx?

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

I’m sorry if pointing out your own contradictions and fake statements is annoying to you. Try being honest and accurate with what you say and that won’t happen.

Honesty and accuracy? From you? Hahahahaha!

Yes, that’s what I bring. Can you show otherwise?

 

[bripat9643]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

Why would Barr’s DOJ prosecute him if there were no crimes? Is Barr in on the fixx?

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

I’m sorry if pointing out your own contradictions and fake statements is annoying to you. Try being honest and accurate with what you say and that won’t happen.

You only point out your inability to commit logic.

If that’s true then show where my logic falls apart. You don’t make any counterpoints. You just say your annoyed and throw out meaningless insults. Do better

I'm done debating you, turd. You're just annoying. You have nothing of interest to say.

 

[bripat9643]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

Why would Barr’s DOJ prosecute him if there were no crimes? Is Barr in on the fixx?

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

I’m sorry if pointing out your own contradictions and fake statements is annoying to you. Try being honest and accurate with what you say and that won’t happen.

Honesty and accuracy? From you? Hahahahaha!

Yes, that’s what I bring. Can you show otherwise?

 

[Slade3200]

Bonus question: Is using malicious prosecution of a third party for the political purpose of impeaching a President a legitimate use of our legal system?

Unlike Barr who started investigations of the people who did national security investigations. It was the NSA that called for the investigations.

Barr investigated people who broke the law and violated the rights of innocent people. McCabe, and Comey investigated innocent people and attempted to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

You just revealed that you're a craven servile boot-licker.

McCabe and Comey were out when Stone was prosecuted. Barr was in charge. Isnt that right?

 

[Slade3200]

Nothing, in other words.

• Multiple top Trump campaign aides told investigators that Trump himself, then the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, knew WikiLeaks had damaging information on the Clinton campaign.
  • Then chairman Paul Manafort, deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates, and personal attorney Michael Cohen told investigators that Stone told Trump and several advisers in July 2016 that he had spoken with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and that the website would begin dumping documents in just a few days.
  • Mueller's team "established that the Trump Campaign displayed interest in the WikiLeaks releases, and that former Campaign member Roger Stone was in contact with the Campaign about those releases, claiming advance knowledge of more to come," the report said.
• Mueller concluded that Trump may have lied to investigators in his written answers to questions in the investigation.
  • "Cohen recalled a conversation in which Roger Stone told Trump that WikiLeaks planned to release information soon, and Manafort recalled that Trump had asked him to stay in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks," the report said.
  • "It is possible that, by the time the President submitted his written answers two years after the relevant events had occurred, he no longer had clear recollections of his discussions with Stone or his knowledge of Stone's asserted communications with WikiLeaks," the report said. "But the President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks."
• Stone "indicated he had knowledge" of Trump's written answers to Mueller.
  • Mueller's report noted that Stone went on Fox News on the evening of January 25, 2019, the day he made his first court appearance after being indicted.
  • "That evening, Stone appeared on Fox News and indicated he had knowledge of the President's answers to this Office's written questions," the report said. "When asked if he had spoken to the President about the allegation that he had lied to Congress, Stone said, 'I have not' and added, 'When the President answered the written interrogatories, he correctly and honestly said, 'Roger Stone and I never discussed this and we never did.'"

The first item is not a crime. The next two are nothing more than gossip.

Why would Barr’s DOJ prosecute him if there were no crimes? Is Barr in on the fixx?

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

I’m sorry if pointing out your own contradictions and fake statements is annoying to you. Try being honest and accurate with what you say and that won’t happen.

You only point out your inability to commit logic.

If that’s true then show where my logic falls apart. You don’t make any counterpoints. You just say your annoyed and throw out meaningless insults. Do better

I'm done debating you, turd. You're just annoying. You have nothing of interest to say.

If you can’t handle getting your BS exposed them don’t throw out BS. It’s pretty simple. If I’m making illogical points then beat them with logical counterpoints. You haven’t even tried to do that. That’s weak

 

[22lcidw]

Romney nailed it.

“An American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president,” Romney wrote on Twitter.

'Historic corruption': Romney criticizes Trump for commuting Roger Stone's prison sentence

The Utah Senator was the first prominent voice in the Republican Party to publicly disavow the president's decision to erase Stone's prison sentence.

www.nbcnews.com

I am still waiting for Romney to explain what he did after he destroyed Obama in the first debate in 2012? Ahhhh...McCain and Romney....good times!

 

[meaner gene]

Stone was convicted of lying to congress and threatening a witness.

Bullshit charges, of course. The victim of his so-called "threat" said it was joke.

Stone Witness Randy Credico Defends Prosecutors, Assails ...
talkingpointsmemo.com › News › Muckraker

Feb 12, 2020 - The comedian and longtime activist had described at trial how Stone threatened to kill Bianca the dog, while prosecutors cited April 2018 text ...

 

[WEATHER53]

Start the impeachment
Trump will be gone by Labor Day

Trump could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th avenue, and the republicans in the senate wouldn't convict him.

See in reality thinking land instead of fake emotion and wishful land we deal with “what is” rather than “what if”
Try it for just 24 hours. It is life changing

 

[berg80]

What "sworn testimony" am I denying?

Is this some sort of game you play where you ask for information I've already posted? Or do you always write posts in utter ignorance of the subject you are addressing?

 

[meaner gene]

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

Hold up... didn’t Barr just step in and drop the Flynn case? That directly goes against what you just said does it not?

Go annoy someone else.

That's what you do every time somebody catches you in a lie.

 

[berg80]

Barr doesn't have dictatorial control over the DOJ. Barr isn't willing to toss esablished procedures into the waste bin like Democrat AGs.

And yet he did with the unprecedented decision to drop charges against Flynn.

 

[Slade3200]

Start the impeachment
Trump will be gone by Labor Day

Trump could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th avenue, and the republicans in the senate wouldn't convict him.

See in reality thinking land instead of fake emotion and wishful land we deal with “what is” rather than “what if”
Try it for just 24 hours. It is life changing

In real debate you post an actual argument, not meaningless platitudes. If you think he wrote something that’s false then provide the correction, otherwise you’re just wasting time

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

*Stone, in fact, said the corrupt part out loud, in a conversation with NBC’s Howard Fineman shortly before Trump’s announcement. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,” Stone told Fineman. “It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”*

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/trumps-self-serving-help-roger-stone/

The takeaway here isn't hard to figure out. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,”...............meaning..............Stone didn't tell the damaging info he knew about.

What information was that?

"A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.
That testimony by Rick Gates at Stone’s trial contrasts with Trump’s claim last November that he did not recall speaking to Stone about WikiLeaks, the document disclosure group that during the 2016 campaign released emails stolen from the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s own campaign chief.

Gates testified in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., that less than a minute after finishing a July 2016 call from Stone, Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” from Wikileaks."

Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

Trump had told special counsel Robert Mueller last November in a written response, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with" Roger Stone.

www.cnbc.com

I'd say Stone earned more than a commutation for obstructing the investigation. He should get a penthouse suite in Trump Tower or a permanent room at Mar-A-Lago. Because if Stone hadn't betrayed the country, justice, and basic decency Individual 1 may very well have been impeachment for conspiracy (with Wikileaks) to defraud the voting public. This, on top of the 4 counts of obstruction Mueller provided evidence of in his report.

A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.

Talking about Wikileaks? Outrageous!!!

WikiLeaks, the document disclosure group that during the 2016 campaign released emails stolen from the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s own campaign chief.

Wikileaks should never have released evidence of Democrat corruption.
Democrat corruption must remain hidden. Always!!!

Individual 1 may very well have been impeachment for conspiracy (with Wikileaks) to defraud the voting public.

I know!!!

Exposing Democrat corruption is just like fraud. Because...umm...err...are you fucking retarded?

 

[berg80]

Is using malicious prosecution of a third party for the political purpose of impeaching a President a legitimate use of our legal system?

You do know Stone's conviction was pursued by Billy the Bagman's DOJ, right?

 

[WEATHER53]

Start the impeachment
Trump will be gone by Labor Day

Trump could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th avenue, and the republicans in the senate wouldn't convict him.

See in reality thinking land instead of fake emotion and wishful land we deal with “what is” rather than “what if”
Try it for just 24 hours. It is life changing

In real debate you post an actual argument, not meaningless platitudes. If you think he wrote something that’s false then provide the correction, otherwise you’re just wasting time

I provided the correction, you just don’t like it due to its effectiveness.

 

[eagle7-31]

*Stone, in fact, said the corrupt part out loud, in a conversation with NBC’s Howard Fineman shortly before Trump’s announcement. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,” Stone told Fineman. “It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn’t.”*

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/trumps-self-serving-help-roger-stone/

The takeaway here isn't hard to figure out. “He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him,”...............meaning..............Stone didn't tell the damaging info he knew about.

What information was that?

"A former top Trump campaign official on Tuesday testified that President Donald Trump talked to political trickster Roger Stone about WikiLeaks during the 2016 campaign.
That testimony by Rick Gates at Stone’s trial contrasts with Trump’s claim last November that he did not recall speaking to Stone about WikiLeaks, the document disclosure group that during the 2016 campaign released emails stolen from the Democratic Party and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s own campaign chief.

Gates testified in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., that less than a minute after finishing a July 2016 call from Stone, Trump indicated that “more information would be coming” from Wikileaks."

Trump talked to Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, Rick Gates says in testimony contradicting the president

Trump had told special counsel Robert Mueller last November in a written response, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with" Roger Stone.

www.cnbc.com

I'd say Stone earned more than a commutation for obstructing the investigation. He should get a penthouse suite in Trump Tower or a permanent room at Mar-A-Lago. Because if Stone hadn't betrayed the country, justice, and basic decency Individual 1 may very well have been impeachment for conspiracy (with Wikileaks) to defraud the voting public. This, on top of the 4 counts of obstruction Mueller provided evidence of in his report.

Lima or baked beans?

 

[berg80]

Barr investigated people who broke the law and violated the rights of innocent people. McCabe, and Comey investigated innocent people and attempted to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

Where are the charges against Comey and McCabe? The DOJ recently announced it was not pursuing charges against McCabe because they know the case wouldn't result in a conviction.