Debate Now Common sense gun control

[progressive hunter]

You are trying to claim that the Constitution is honored by the major political party????


You need to get out more.....you can't really be this stupid.


Let's take one example, just to put you in your place:

. Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors 2of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????

“The 1954 federal Johnson Amendment prohibits a pastor from talking about candidates from the pulpit in light of Scripture. Thus, based on what a pastor says about an election from the pulpit, the tax code allows the government to tax a church. Consider that in light of the Internal Revenue Service's increasingly vague regulations, and you have a recipe for the censorship of religion. The IRS, through those vague regulations, reserves for itself tremendous discretion and power to decide which churches to punish for violations of the Johnson Amendment and which not to punish.”
Why don't churches pay taxes?


Any reading of the first amendment will prove this to be unconstitutional.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


This is the America of today.

no the republican party does not honor the 2nd A any more than the dem party does,,,

 

[Mac-7]

Mental and physical competency tests for all purchases, license issued at time and place of purchase, renewable yearly. Liability insurance required for licensy.

Ok, provided we give voters the same test before allowing them to vote

 

[progressive hunter]

None of these things prevent irresponsible people from accessing guns..

where does the 2nd A say irresponsible people cant own guns???

 

[petro]

Nope. The burden of proof is on the claimant to show there are 10,000 gun laws.

The NRA’s fuzzy, decades-old claim of ‘20,000’ gun laws

I apply that to the cry of 10,000 lies.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Actually it would have stopped several shooters in Texas. The Church shooter, arguably Uvalde.

Laws cannot prevent people from breaking another law; the laws you propose cannot prevent someone from getting a gun illegally.

 

[airplanemechanic]

That's a completely made up number.

You're right. I was wrong. There are more than 20,000 gun laws according to the violence policy center.

https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firearms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/#:~:text=It%20is%20commonly%20asserted%20that,bring%20firearms%20violence%20under%20control.

 

[PoliticalChic]

no the republican party does not honor the 2nd A any more than the dem party does,,,

Prove it, you dunce.


"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020

 

[progressive hunter]

Prove it, you dunce.


"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020

tell me just one unconstitutional gun law the republican party has repealed???

dont worry I will wait,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Prove it, you dunce.


"My Administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the Constitutional right to pray in public schools. In America, we do not punish prayer. We do not tear down crosses. We do not ban symbols of faith. We do not muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith. We cherish religion. We lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God!"
Trump, SOTU 2020

then again theres you that openly pushs unconstitutional gun control laws and claims you need a license and people that dont think the way you do should not be allowed to own guns,,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

That is definitely your statement.

And it is absolutely true.
The object of the exercise , as stated in the OP is to describe or specify legislation that will "prevent irresponsible people from accessing guns".
As your suggestions will not prevent irresponsible people from getting guns illegally, they do not meet the challenge put forth in the OP.

 

[progressive hunter]

And it is absolutely true.
The object of the exercise , as stated in the OP is to describe or specify legislation that will "prevent irresponsible people from accessing guns".
As your suggestions will not prevent irresponsible people from getting guns illegally, they do not meet the challenge put forth in the OP.

why are you so anti 2nd amendment??

what do you mean by irresponsible??

 

[M14 Shooter]

I literally stated they would have.

How do you your proposed laws prevent irresponsible people from getting guns illegally?

 

[progressive hunter]

How do you your proposed laws prevent irresponsible people from getting guns illegally?

the only way to get a gun illegally is to steal it,,
thats already a crime,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Enforce the laws and they won't be able to.

Remember, the easiest way is to reinterpret the 2nd Amendment, making private ownership illegal.

good luck with that,, you would have to spill a lot of blood to do it,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Straw purchases.
Japan and Western Europe have minimal gun crime following your view.

straw purchases dont violate the 2nd A,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

Enforce the laws and they won't be able to.

M'kay...
How does enforcing your proposed laws prevent irresponsible people from getting guns illegally?

 

[airplanemechanic]

tell me just one unconstitutional gun law the republican party has repealed???

dont worry I will wait,,

The republican party doesn't repeal unconstitutional gun laws, that would be SCOTUS dumbass.

And as recently as July, the republican led SCOTUS repealed an unconstitutional New York gun law:

Supreme Court's Gun Rights Decision Upends State Restrictions • Stateline

Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month that expanded the right to carry firearms outside the home, gun rights activist Andrew Namiki Roberts rushed to the Honolulu Police Department to apply for four permits to carry handguns in public. He was fourth in line, surrounded by...

www.pewtrusts.org

 

[progressive hunter]

The republican party doesn't repeal unconstitutional gun laws, that would be SCOTUS dumbass.

And as recently as July, the republican led SCOTUS repealed an unconstitutional New York gun law:

Supreme Court's Gun Rights Decision Upends State Restrictions • Stateline

Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last month that expanded the right to carry firearms outside the home, gun rights activist Andrew Namiki Roberts rushed to the Honolulu Police Department to apply for four permits to carry handguns in public. He was fourth in line, surrounded by...

www.pewtrusts.org

please tell me you arent that ignorant??

congress can at anytime repeal any law they want too,,,

SCOTUS rules that a law is unconstitutional they done repeal them,,

 

[Cellblock2429]

1. The goal is to prevent irresponsible people from accessing guns while allowing responsible people to access guns. Irresponsible gun owners are crazy people or criminals who'd use guns in a crime, like a mass shooting.

2. You can inconvenience responsible gun owners but you can't prevent them from owning or using their guns in a responsible manner. An inconvenience is taking a test, applying for a license, etc

3. Ignore the Second Amendment.


Your job is to come up with legislation that will keep irresponsible people away from guns without interfering with responsible gun ownership.

/——-/ Common Sense Gun Laws is code for registration and confiscation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

tell me just one unconstitutional gun law the republican party has repealed???

dont worry I will wait,,

There are morons like you.....you aren't unique, unfortunately.....who are soooooooo stupid that you imagine political equivalency between the parties.....exactly what the Wehrmacht....er, Democrats....want you to believe.


Watch me shoot you to pieces: see if you can come up with a similar indictment of the Right, to this:

Let's cut to the chase, and prove you just as irrational and ignorant as I suggest:



The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Now......which is your favorite?









The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism,

socialism,

infanticide,

opposition to free speech,

standing with criminals and felons rather than law-abiding citizens

substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry,

support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists,

accepting payment from Communist China for future considerations,

and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Now......which is your favorite?

Don't be a fool your whole life......




.....take a day off.