Colorado Rigging Next Election

[mudwhistle]

gee mudd are you doing a thread on how the gop has gerry mandered n.c? o wait it the gop doing it ...you are all for it

Not unless we do one on California, and every other blue state first.
How do you think people like Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, Ilhan Omar, and AOC got elected

 

[mudwhistle]

enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,

That.

.

What Agreement do you think they are entering into? Their decision is just for their state, and is not binding on any other state, just as no other state has any binding agreements on them.

It is EVEN called an interstate Compact, it is IN FACT an agreement between the several States to conspire and violate the rule of law and the sanctity of the votes cast by the residents of that and the several States involved in this ILLEGAL agreement.

Call it what you want, each state can independently pass their own law and achieve the same thing. The "compact" is not necessary.

The thing is unConstitutional on multiple levels.

Nope, wishful thinking on your part. If the "compact" is unconstitutional, there is nothing preventing each state from passing their own, similar law.

Several Repub-run states like Texas, Alabama, and Missouri have recently passed "copy cat" abortion laws, trying to make abortions virtually impossible in these states, by instituting unrealistic facility requirements for abortion clinics (hallways in abortion clinics must be a certain width, etc.). This is essentially a "compact" to make abortion extremely difficult in several states, which infringes on the rights of women in these states.

Of course, you hypocritical Repugs have no problem with these types of "compacts".

There is nothing in the constitution that says you can ban abortion.
This is a constitutional issue. Abortion is not.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

 

[mudwhistle]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

Voter suppression like requiring an I.D.?
Obviously you have issues with making sure that every "legal" vote being counted.
You also have issues with anyone who tries to prevent multiple votes and dead people voting.
It's clear you want illegals to vote and you want no proof that they are even registered to vote in that district.

 

[MarathonMike]

enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,

That.

.

What Agreement do you think they are entering into? Their decision is just for their state, and is not binding on any other state, just as no other state has any binding agreements on them.

It is EVEN called an interstate Compact, it is IN FACT an agreement between the several States to conspire and violate the rule of law and the sanctity of the votes cast by the residents of that and the several States involved in this ILLEGAL agreement.

Call it what you want, each state can independently pass their own law and achieve the same thing. The "compact" is not necessary.

The thing is unConstitutional on multiple levels.

Nope, wishful thinking on your part. If the "compact" is unconstitutional, there is nothing preventing each state from passing their own, similar law.

Several Repub-run states like Texas, Alabama, and Missouri have recently passed "copy cat" abortion laws, trying to make abortions virtually impossible in these states, by instituting unrealistic facility requirements for abortion clinics (hallways in abortion clinics must be a certain width, etc.). This is essentially a "compact" to make abortion extremely difficult in several states, which infringes on the rights of women in these states.

Of course, you hypocritical Repugs have no problem with these types of "compacts".

No, I don't have a problem with each state passing it's own abortion laws. Good luck convincing a court that your imaginary abortion "compact" sets a precedent for a real compact that clearly violates the intent of the Electoral College.

 

[Moscow Mitch McTraitor]

What Agreement do you think they are entering into? Their decision is just for their state, and is not binding on any other state, just as no other state has any binding agreements on them.

It is EVEN called an interstate Compact, it is IN FACT an agreement between the several States to conspire and violate the rule of law and the sanctity of the votes cast by the residents of that and the several States involved in this ILLEGAL agreement.

Call it what you want, each state can independently pass their own law and achieve the same thing. The "compact" is not necessary.

The thing is unConstitutional on multiple levels.

Nope, wishful thinking on your part. If the "compact" is unconstitutional, there is nothing preventing each state from passing their own, similar law.

Several Repub-run states like Texas, Alabama, and Missouri have recently passed "copy cat" abortion laws, trying to make abortions virtually impossible in these states, by instituting unrealistic facility requirements for abortion clinics (hallways in abortion clinics must be a certain width, etc.). This is essentially a "compact" to make abortion extremely difficult in several states, which infringes on the rights of women in these states.

Of course, you hypocritical Repugs have no problem with these types of "compacts".

No, I don't have a problem with each state passing it's own abortion laws. Good luck convincing a court that your imaginary abortion "compact" sets a precedent for a real compact that clearly violates the intent of the Electoral College.

Does this "compact" violate the intent of the Electoral College? Sorry, you all have presented zero evidence so far to support this contention.

My abortion copy cat laws example in Repug states is much more of a compact than what you are describing.

 

[mudwhistle]

We don't believe there were fake votes for Trump. We just know that thousands of African Americans were prevented from voting in certain states like Wisconsin and North Carolina, that's all. It's called voter suppression. Look it up.

That's rich. The only thing that prevented African Americans from voting for Hillary was Hillary. The "voter suppression" was on the DNC for nominating a candidate that woefully failed to resonate with African Americans.

Wrong. Thousands of blacks in the Milwaukee area were prevented from voting in 2016, thanks to governor Scott Walker's draconian voter suppression law. Clinton would have won Wisconsin by at least a couple of percentage points if it wasn't for this new voter suppression law.

Voter suppression........to a Democrat that's not letting people vote multiple times and not letting people vote without poof of eligibility. It's also clearing the rolls of non-residents or deceased voters. Virginia had over 1000 illegals registered to vote in the mid-term. Getting them off the list.....that kind of suppression?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

Really! If you get all your news from MSNBC you are going to be wrong often.
Why Do Democrats Pretend Voter Fraud Doesn't Exist? | Investor's Business Daily

In August, the Justice Department announced the prosecution of 19 foreign nationals for illegally voting in North Carolina. Some of them voted in multiple elections.

97 Cases In Texas This Year
Texas State Attorney General Ken Paxton decided to crack down on voter fraud before the midterm elections. So far, he's prosecuted 33 people for 97 counts of voter fraud this year alone. Among the discoveries was a voter fraud ring that had received financial support from the former head of the Texas Democratic Party.

Pennsylvania let thousands of noncitizens register to vote, many of whom have since voted, according to reporter John Fund, who has been following this issue for years.

The Heritage Foundation has a database that now includes 1,165 cases of election fraud across 47 states. More than 1,000 of them resulted in criminal convictions.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

They did a reassessment of the vote in California, where most of the extra votes where created after election night....and they said that Hillary lost enough votes to lose the popular vote in one state alone. They discovered over 3-5 million fake votes that would have reversed the popular vote count in Trump's favor. New Evidence Proves Hillary Won Popular Vote 'Fraudulently'

So when the Dems take over the polls the vote cannot be trusted anymore because you have to rely on the honesty of the Democrats running the counts. All it takes is one district taken over by Democrats that generates a percentage of the vote thru fraud and a state that went Red can be swung to a Blue state through fraud. Democrats could lose every state in the country and all it would take is for California to push the popular vote over to the Democrat weeks after the election, and even a landslide win for the Republican could be reversed.
I suppose you think this is okay...because America is a racist country that needs to be punished. If this happens there literally will be blood in the streets.

No wonder you're a worthless Repug, believing this idiotic garbage. Voter fraud is malicious. This is not what your stupid article is stating. It's basically stating that if you don't have a voter ID then you're committing voter fraud, which is a ridiculous stretch.

Your stupid article doesn't even provide any examples of this rampant "voter fraud". It was written for small-minded, unsophisticated morons such as yourself.

This is a 3 dimensional issue and you have only a 2 dimensional mind.
Many Democrat states have switched to mail-in elections....so nobody need produce an I.D. at all. All they have to do is establish residency. Being a citizen isn't even allowed to be asked.

As any rational person knows, Repug voter suppression is a much bigger problem than this mythical voter fraud.

The truth is, Clinton probably won by over 4 million votes if you count places where African American and minority turnout was low due to new voter suppression laws, such as Wisconsin.

Any rational person knows you dimwits are dumber than hell.

 

[BULLDOG]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

/—-/ Here ya go libtard— for the hundredth time: The Heritage Foundation

Yep. Go back 37 years, and you can find 1199 total cases of all types of voter fraud. That's about 32.5 cases per year average, and it includes all types of voter fraud. That's just a wee bit short of the millions claimed by crazy right wingers, isn't it? You keep trying though. You'll find something that won't make you look like a whining baby eventually.

 

[The Original Tree]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This entire thing is Unconstitutional as you cannot award Electoral Votes to a candidate who did not win your state.

 

[BULLDOG]

All you have to do now is prove all those fake votes you expect actually happen. You haven't had any luck proving that in the past, but who knows, You might find something this time.

Really! If you get all your news from MSNBC you are going to be wrong often.
Why Do Democrats Pretend Voter Fraud Doesn't Exist? | Investor's Business Daily

In August, the Justice Department announced the prosecution of 19 foreign nationals for illegally voting in North Carolina. Some of them voted in multiple elections.

97 Cases In Texas This Year
Texas State Attorney General Ken Paxton decided to crack down on voter fraud before the midterm elections. So far, he's prosecuted 33 people for 97 counts of voter fraud this year alone. Among the discoveries was a voter fraud ring that had received financial support from the former head of the Texas Democratic Party.

Pennsylvania let thousands of noncitizens register to vote, many of whom have since voted, according to reporter John Fund, who has been following this issue for years.

The Heritage Foundation has a database that now includes 1,165 cases of election fraud across 47 states. More than 1,000 of them resulted in criminal convictions.

You keep adding those up, and eventually you might get to the millions claimed by Trump and his supporters, but it will probably be the end of next century or further.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

It makes no sense. Essentially, the state authoritarians are telling the voters that their vote is worthless.

 

[iceberg]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

i swear to god inbreeding should be stopped at all costs.

 

[iceberg]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

This doesn't go against the Constitution at all. That is wishful thinking on your part. You will have a very difficult time proving that it does go against the Constitution. Bravo, Colorado.

Let's face it - The only hope that Repubs have of winning another Presidential election is the Electoral College. Repubs will NEVER win the popular vote in a Presidential election again, at least not during the next 20 - 30 years.

Not without Russia's help, anyway.

You might want to read Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3. While you're at it, you might want to read the rest of the document as well, you appear to be really ignorant about it.

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Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3:

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

So what am I missing?

common sense but i'm out. you win todays "ignore the doosh" award.

 

[Claudette]

Democrats are a bunch of criminals.
They fully intend on stealing the next presidential election by passing laws that assure that regardless how their state votes, they will award their electoral votes to which ever candidate wins the popular vote.
This goes directly against the constitution and is an assault on the election process.

All Democrats have to do is generate enough fake votes in Blue States using illegal voters...and then Colorado would award their electoral votes to the fake winner.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a Colorado Open Records Act lawsuit on behalf of reporter Todd Shepherd against Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold for records of communications related to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which would award Colorado’s presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote, regardless of whether Colorado’s voters chose that candidate (Todd Shepherd v Jena Griswold in her official capacity as Colorado Secretary of State (No. 2019-cv-032310)).

The suit was filed after Griswold refused to turn over certain documents in response to a February 4, 2019, open records request for records about the Electoral College debate.

On February 21, 2019, the Colorado House passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it to Governor Jared Polis. Colorado Secretary of State Griswold is a critic of the Electoral College and applauded Gov. Polis’s signing of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.

Currently, most states award all their Electoral College votes to the candidate who wins the popular vote in that state. But, as described here by the National Conference of State Legislatures, when a state, such as Colorado, “passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state’s electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. These bills will take effect only when states with a majority of the electoral votes have passed similar legislation and joined the compact.”

Five times a presidential candidate has won the “popular vote” but lost the election, most recently Hillary Clinton. Many opponents of President Trump have proposed undoing the Electoral College. Supporters of the Electoral College point out that it balances the interests of citizens in both large and small states by requiring candidates to seek votes in less populous states whose interests might otherwise be ignored. In addition, under the reform, a state could award its Electoral College votes to a presidential candidate who lost the state’s popular vote.

Judicial Watch Sues Colorado for Documents on Electoral College Change, Files Suit on Behalf of Reporter Over State’s New National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Judicial Watch​

Can't change the Constitution without amending it. The law in Colorado is illegal. But then demoncraps care less about the law.

Well it means they can't do what they are going to try to do. Its unconstitutional and illegal.

Wonder how many Colorado leaders are lawyers?? If they are they ain't the sharpest tools in anyone's shed.

 

[OKTexas]

gee mudd are you doing a thread on how the gop has gerry mandered n.c? o wait it the gop doing it ...you are all for it

Did you bother to read that before you hit the post button?

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[OKTexas]

Except the US Federal Government promises to ensure a REPUBLICAN democracy to each State. Changing the peoples vote is NOT Democracy and is not a Republican form of Government.

Your definition of "Republican" government is not the definition in the Constitution. The Constitution states absolutely nothing about how electoral votes should be allocated in regards to the popular vote in each state vs the entire country.

Electors belong to the States and their citizens, not the country. No State can bind the future votes of their citizens, just like no legislature can bind votes of future legislatures.

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OK, so why haven't previous EC laws passed by the states been deemed unconstitutional?

You can't challenge a law till someone tries to use it, till then it's inoperative. You're not very smart, are ya?

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Jesus you're a dumbass.
You can challenge any law. Laws have been deemed unconstitutional before they go into effect.

Really, IAW US jurisprudence you must demonstrate harm to have standing to sue. Tell the class, how do you demonstrate harm from a law you've never been subjected to?

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