Colorado judge strikes down AR-15 ban, and over 10 round magazine ban....good.

I`ve never known a woman who lived in constant fear of being helplessly raped and murdered. Is this your wife you`re describing?

Actually most women live in fear the rest of their lives after suffering the mental and physical trauma of something like being raped or attempted rape. Before people were allowed to carry in most states, all a woman could do is sit home in the corner and only leave the house without fear when accompanied by a male companion. Do you think that 65 year old lady in NYC that was brutally attacked by that animal won't live in fear the rest of her life? Unfortunately she lives in a commie city and state and would not be able to get a license to carry a firearm.

A few years ago I read a story that our state had more female CCW applicants than male. I say good for them. Nobody male or female should have to live in fear or allow their lives to be ruined because they were a helpless victim.

I hate to break it to guys, but every woman with any sense of self-preservation lives all the time with the fear of being sexually assaulted. I'm not saying we're hyperventilating and freaking out like a herpetophobe stepping on a snake or anything, but it's something that's always there and always factored into our daily decisions.

Ever known a woman who asked a security guard or a male colleague to walk her to her car when she works late? Refused to go for a walk or a jog at night by herself? Went on a first date with a guy and insisted on meeting him at the restaurant rather than having him pick her up at home? Texted or called a family member or friend to let them know where she was if she was going somewhere unusual to her normal routine? I could go on and on listing everyday adjustments any woman with a brain in her head makes to her everyday life because of the ever-present possibility of being assaulted that's in the back of her mind.
 
I prefer to make it look like the "champions of women's rights" are demanding that women live in constant fear and danger of being helplessly raped and murdered. Since, y'know, that actually IS what they're doing.

I couldn't agree more, but women will not ban together to make it a women's issue like they did in the 70's during the women's lib movement. Back then women held rallies taking their bras off and burning them. I don't think you'd ever see anything like that today, but if they did, boy would that put Democrats in a terrible position.

Sad thing is, far too many women these days have been brainwashed by our batshit crazy society into believing they're far safer than they actually are, and can make bad decisions with impunity.
 
Why does a gun need to be left in the car overnight? Do they not know that locked cars get broken into every day?

When you carry a gun, it's easy to do. At first you are extremely conscious of it, but after a while it gets to be like anything else. People lock themselves out of their house and car all the time. You leave home forgetting your wallet or phone and have to turn back. After a while it just becomes and unconscious action like anything else.

I came home sick, very sick, one day from work and forgot to lock my car. In the morning, I found my handgun had been stolen. Was it carelessness? August West might or others might say so. When people are sick they're not working or thinking to capacity. Still, it was the fault of the thief who stole the gun.

I called the local police and they didn't want to even take a report. When I insisted, they agreed I could go to the station and fill out a report.

Oh, yeah. If that gun ever gets used in a crime, you definitely want an official police report stating that it was stolen from you, so you won't be accused of the crime.
 
We don`t need no stinking background checks. Just open up enough car doors and you`ll have one. I wonder if these guns are now in the hands of criminals?
Metro Police: 12 guns stolen from vehicles last week | News | wsmv.com


Yeah.....shitheads like you have made almost every public space gun free zones by force of law...

Then, when normal gun owners have to leave their guns in their car to get grocery's, the criminals can steal them from their cars...

The solution is to get rid of gun free zones so normal Americans don't have to leave their guns in their cars...

You idiot.
The "gun free zone" nonsense was put to bed a long time ago. More firearms in schools, malls, movie theaters, etc. is a really stupid idea.
The Gun-Free Zone Myth: No relationship between Gun-Free Zones and Mass Shootings – Armed With Reason

"Look, I found a blog that says what I want to hear, so that means it's settled!!!" :rolleyes:
 
But have you ever heard of them questioning the original owner about some shooting it was used in?
I haven't.

We know more responsible people most likely so we don't have any personal experience with that. But the fact of the matter is they always make attempts to trace the gun to the suspect. Successful? Probably only part of the time. But if their research leads them to only 10% of the murderers, that's 10% more put in prison we don't have to worry about.
I'm just saying if a pistol is used in a shooting during a carjacking or a robbery, the cops don't go to the guy who bought it 8 years ago and then had it stolen from his truck, and begin treating him as a suspect in the shooting; that doesn't happen.
Unless they actually recover the gun, they can't trace it at all, and they know damn good and well the guy in the suburbs who bought it back when, wasn't involved in some gang beef shooting at a waffle house, or a robbery.

They don't IF they know it was stolen. Without a police report stating that it was, they have no reason to think he doesn't still have it.

It's kinda like cars. If a car is used in a hit-and-run, and the cops find it abandoned a couple of miles away, they're gonna contact the guy on record as owning the car to find out where he was at the time, even if he bought that car years ago . . . unless they have a report in their system telling them that the car was stolen from him.
 
you'll never admit that we lock up the wrong people will you?

60% of people in jails right now are not convicted of any crime, and we lock up people for nonviolent drug offenses and property damage more than we lock up the violent criminals that are actually the danger to society.

And when Chicago proposed non-cash bails for non-violent offenders, the Police Unions screamed bloody murder.

I agree we lock up people for non-violent offenses.

MERE gun possession is a non-violent offense.

Notice how all federal law enforcement is built around offences black men can easily be charged with, thus stripping them of their voting rights. Do you think it's an accident that since Ronald Reagan was elected, the number of black and brown men in federal penitentiaries has skyrocked 80,000 in 1980, to nearly 800,000 in 2008?

Oh, goody, more lectures on dealing with a heterogenous population from the Village Idiot of the Great WHITE North.

Tell us all about black and brown men when your racist ass lives somewhere that actually HAS some.
 
No, we don't want more resources drained from the public schools... The problem is that School Choice really doesn't work. Milwaukee tried it. The kids with vouchers did the same as the kids who remained in public schools.

The agenda is that unionized teachers are a powerful force for reform.. and you can't have that.

So where do you get this idea that voucher money comes from public schools? It's a federal voucher just like HUD people get. The public school is still being funded by tax dollars and not one dime less.

Well, sort of. If I understand correctly, how much money a school gets depends on its enrollment. So theoretically, if you remove your kid from the rolls of a public school, they wouldn't be getting funding for that particular student. Of course, there are always more where he came from, so . . .
 
Well, sort of. If I understand correctly, how much money a school gets depends on its enrollment. So theoretically, if you remove your kid from the rolls of a public school, they wouldn't be getting funding for that particular student. Of course, there are always more where he came from, so . . .

If the school is receiving federal dollars, but I'm sure most schools, especially in the suburbs, are mostly or entirely funded by local taxpayers like we do here.

60% of the property taxes I pay go to our schools. Depending on the situation, the state contributes to certain schools as well.
 
Oh, goody, more lectures on dealing with a heterogenous population from the Village Idiot of the Great WHITE North.

Tell us all about black and brown men when your racist ass lives somewhere that actually HAS some.

I already asked her what laws blacks are more prone to violate than anybody else. She couldn't give me one.

The left view blacks as a certain group of people who are not like everybody else. Kind of like the kid on the short bus. It's my hope that one day soon, they will realize how they've been pandered to and didn't get much in return for their votes; how Democrats have been separating them from all other human beings in this country.
 
Like I said I have no problem denying convicted felons the right to own firearms. They have proven through their actions that they are not responsible enough to own firearms. I really don't have a problem with those that are adjudicated to be mentally ill are denied the right to own firearms.

As far as everyone else more power to them. I think that anyone who isn't a convicted felon or adjudicated to be mentally ill should be able to buy as many guns as they want and I support Constitutional carry.

Why do you want convicted felons and the mentally ill to own firearms?

I want the Constitution followed. I want government that is bound by the legal authority that created it and that does not, can not, assume power or authority over the governed that the governed did not grant them.

I want there to be a chance for reform and forgiveness in the penal system. Serve your time and get out of prison and have all of your rights. I want those who have paid their debt to society to be able to defend themselves and their families just as you are able to defend yourself and your family. I want those families to be able to defend themselves without attainder because their loved one was once, often as a minor or very young adult, convicted of possession of marijuana or of felony littering.

I want convicted felons to have free speech. If ever accused of another crime after being a convicted felon, I want them to have the right to an attorney and to a fair trial with a jury of their peers. I want them to not have to quarter soldiers in their homes in times of peace. Why do you not want convicted felons to have any of these rights?

And what about those convicted of misdemeanors? Many of those are banned from exercising their right to keep and bear arms.

And what about those convicted of absolutely nothing at all that are banned and are not insane? All it takes is an angry partner filing a restraining order and your guns will be confiscated under federal law.

And what about those in states with red-flag laws? Not even a protective order hearing before their guns are taken.

Why do you want the government to pick and choose to whom human and constitutionally protected rights apply?

You clearly do NOT support constitutional carry. The Constitution requires that everyone be allowed to keep and bear arms and you want only those with government approval to keep or bear arms. You ignore the fact that if the Government can strip anyone of the right to keep and bear arms, or any right, for that matter, then those whose rights they have not stripped are operating with government permission - just the thing that those who actually advocate constitutional carry understand: no government permission required.

Your views have much more in common with the views of Handgun Control, Inc. than they have with James Madison. You are a gun controller. I don't point this out in an attempt to insult you. What I'd prefer is that you think about this statement: you have more in common with HCI than with the Founders. Your comments indicate that you might think about yourself differently. Just think about your stance and what it means. You say you're a constitutionalist but you push views that are very anti-constitution.

If your views are emotionally based then think about whether you want laws based on emotion. If you want gun control because you think it's the answer to crime and that safety from crime is more important for society than is liberty, that's OK, too. You're entitled to your opinion. My hope is that you, and others reading this who might agree with you, think about the implications to liberty and to our constitutional form of government when liberties are restricted without constitutional authority to do so - or to use a different way of saying the same thing: by tyranny.

If tyranny is your choice and you want to keep gun control that exists today, in spite of the fact that those laws violate the Constitution (again, that's tyranny) then just own up to it; admit that you're a gun controller. And you can buy one of these shirts:

Moms-Demand-Action-For-Gun-Control-Unisex-T-Shirt.jpg
 
I hate to break it to guys, but every woman with any sense of self-preservation lives all the time with the fear of being sexually assaulted. I'm not saying we're hyperventilating and freaking out like a herpetophobe stepping on a snake or anything, but it's something that's always there and always factored into our daily decisions.

Ever known a woman who asked a security guard or a male colleague to walk her to her car when she works late? Refused to go for a walk or a jog at night by herself? Went on a first date with a guy and insisted on meeting him at the restaurant rather than having him pick her up at home? Texted or called a family member or friend to let them know where she was if she was going somewhere unusual to her normal routine? I could go on and on listing everyday adjustments any woman with a brain in her head makes to her everyday life because of the ever-present possibility of being assaulted that's in the back of her mind.

But don't you think there is a thick line between being concerned about a possibility and having lived that fear? I mean, I've never been robbed outside of somebody breaking into my apartment when I wasn't home, but if it's dark outside, I take my gun with me just in case out of concern.

Now had I been robbed in the past, pistol whipped to nearly an inch of my life, I'd be walking around with a gun day or night anywhere I go, even if I were with other people.
 
You don't want school choice and vouchers because you don't care about the kids.......you want to protect the teachers unions...you idiot.

Naw, I don't want it because it doesn't work. Now, for those playing along at home, I was a product of Catholic education. I even went to De La Salle High School (You should know that one, being from Chicago). The thing was, because my parents were fronting their own money to inflict their awful religion on me, they where actually involved and committed.

you give a voucher to a parent who isn't committed, he's not going to suddenly be committed because you gave him a voucher.

Vouchers are not an entitlement, they focus the resources on the kid, rather than the teachers union....this allows as many children as possible to get an education vs. trapping all of the in destructive, democrat party run schools......

But they'll end up becoming an entitlement. I know my parents would have LOVED to have gotten vouchers to send the five of us to Catholic Schools. Particularly in the 1970's when Nixon and Ford really messed up the economy. The problem is, when you institute voucher, how do you determine who gets them? You'd have to make them available to the people sending their kids to private schools now.

The other end of the equation- as stated- is that the Catholic schools won't suddenly open the doors to the gang-bangers, the learning disabled, etc. They'll just pick the students that will give them the highest chance of keeping those numbers up. School "Choice" works both ways.

Teachers unions aren't for reform of any sort.....they are one of the poisons that are destroying the lives of inner city children...

Vouchers and Choice will save lives.......

Again, Milwaukee tried it and it failed miserable. A lot of the new schools that popped up to meet the new demand were closed pretty quickly when it was determined they couldn't even reach the Public School's low standards on testing. In fact, 41% of the schools participating were closed down in one year.


Hey..........the religious and private schools have been back in class since August....full schedules, Lunch, recess, P.E.......the teachers unions have kept the inner city schools out since this mess started......they don't care about the kids.......since the kids don't spread the Chinese flu...you moron....

The teachers unions have robbed poor, minority kids of over a year of education.....a year they will never make up, and which will wreck their lives even more......

The teachers unions are a poison on our education system.

yes, Covid (TRUMP PLAGUE) has been a tragedy.... Too bad we didn't have a COMPETENT president to deal with it.

Again, if you are wealthy enough to send your kids to Catholic Schools, you are wealthy enough to get regular medical treatment and screening. Poorer kids and communities have been more vulnerable to TRUMP PLAGUE since it broke out.


You point to one place....maybe.......and each time they are fighting the teachers unions. Meanwhile, vouchers and choice give families that do care about their children but who are stuck in democrat party controlled schools the chance to educate their children without assholes like you telling them they have to stay in hell hole schools simply because you want to make sure the teachers unions can funnel money to democrat party politicians......

Vouchers put the money under the control of the parent, not the teachers union.....Choice, just like every other product, will improve education for all children....the teachers unions and the democrat party have a monopoly....and that is why public education sucks.

The solution is not vouchers; it's getting the Federal Government out of education; there's no constitutional authority for it. Reform local education by voting locally and restore parental voice in local education. If a community wants to fund a local school, that's the community's choice. What is taught in the school is the communities choice. Paying for public school should be on the parents who use it. The rest of us should not have to pay.
 
Like I said I have no problem denying convicted felons the right to own firearms. They have proven through their actions that they are not responsible enough to own firearms. I really don't have a problem with those that are adjudicated to be mentally ill are denied the right to own firearms.

As far as everyone else more power to them. I think that anyone who isn't a convicted felon or adjudicated to be mentally ill should be able to buy as many guns as they want and I support Constitutional carry.

Why do you want convicted felons and the mentally ill to own firearms?

I want the Constitution followed. I want government that is bound by the legal authority that created it and that does not, can not, assume power or authority over the governed that the governed did not grant them.

I want there to be a chance for reform and forgiveness in the penal system. Serve your time and get out of prison and have all of your rights. I want those who have paid their debt to society to be able to defend themselves and their families just as you are able to defend yourself and your family. I want those families to be able to defend themselves without attainder because their loved one was once, often as a minor or very young adult, convicted of possession of marijuana or of felony littering.

I want convicted felons to have free speech. If ever accused of another crime after being a convicted felon, I want them to have the right to an attorney and to a fair trial with a jury of their peers. I want them to not have to quarter soldiers in their homes in times of peace. Why do you not want convicted felons to have any of these rights?

And what about those convicted of misdemeanors? Many of those are banned from exercising their right to keep and bear arms.

And what about those convicted of absolutely nothing at all that are banned and are not insane? All it takes is an angry partner filing a restraining order and your guns will be confiscated under federal law.

And what about those in states with red-flag laws? Not even a protective order hearing before their guns are taken.

Why do you want the government to pick and choose to whom human and constitutionally protected rights apply?

You clearly do NOT support constitutional carry. The Constitution requires that everyone be allowed to keep and bear arms and you want only those with government approval to keep or bear arms. You ignore the fact that if the Government can strip anyone of the right to keep and bear arms, or any right, for that matter, then those whose rights they have not stripped are operating with government permission - just the thing that those who actually advocate constitutional carry understand: no government permission required.

Your views have much more in common with the views of Handgun Control, Inc. than they have with James Madison. You are a gun controller. I don't point this out in an attempt to insult you. What I'd prefer is that you think about this statement: you have more in common with HCI than with the Founders. Your comments indicate that you might think about yourself differently. Just think about your stance and what it means. You say you're a constitutionalist but you push views that are very anti-constitution.

If your views are emotionally based then think about whether you want laws based on emotion. If you want gun control because you think it's the answer to crime and that safety from crime is more important for society than is liberty, that's OK, too. You're entitled to your opinion. My hope is that you, and others reading this who might agree with you, think about the implications to liberty and to our constitutional form of government when liberties are restricted without constitutional authority to do so - or to use a different way of saying the same thing: by tyranny.

If tyranny is your choice and you want to keep gun control that exists today, in spite of the fact that those laws violate the Constitution (again, that's tyranny) then just own up to it; admit that you're a gun controller. And you can buy one of these shirts:

Moms-Demand-Action-For-Gun-Control-Unisex-T-Shirt.jpg
Yeah IDGAF about criminals.

Never will
 
The solution is not vouchers; it's getting the Federal Government out of education; there's no constitutional authority for it. Reform local education by voting locally and restore parental voice in local education. If a community wants to fund a local school, that's the community's choice. What is taught in the school is the communities choice. Paying for public school should be on the parents who use it. The rest of us should not have to pay.

I don't know about that. I have no problem funding our schools. What I have a problem with is how it's funded.

Here you are taxed on your property value set by the county. I nor any of my tenants have had kids in our public school and never have. But I'm willing to bet I pay more property tax than the parents two streets down who have three of four kids in our school system.

I'm willing to do my part, but I want parents to do even a larger part--not less.
 
Well, sort of. If I understand correctly, how much money a school gets depends on its enrollment. So theoretically, if you remove your kid from the rolls of a public school, they wouldn't be getting funding for that particular student. Of course, there are always more where he came from, so . . .

If the school is receiving federal dollars, but I'm sure most schools, especially in the suburbs, are mostly or entirely funded by local taxpayers like we do here.

60% of the property taxes I pay go to our schools. Depending on the situation, the state contributes to certain schools as well.

As with anything having to do with the government, it's complicated. School funding is, of course, a mix of federal, state, and local money, mostly state and local. Every state has a formula they use to determine how much each school gets, and where that money is going to come from.

The most common formula is the Foundation Grant: the state sets a minimum amount per student. They require each district to assess a property tax percentage rate, with the minimum amount set by the state, and estimate how much each district will get from that. Wealthy areas, of course, will raise far more money from their property tax than poorer areas will. The state gets to fill in the gap to reach the minimum.

States also have the option of saying that any money raised by a district over a certain amount per student can be "recaptured" by the state, to be redistributed to other districts. So if your state allows for this option, your property tax might be going to fund schools somewhere else in your state.

Still and all, the point is that the amount of money a specific school gets is calculated per student enrolled there
 
If I start a thread titled, "School Funding - Should vouchers be allowed?", could we discuss gun control there?
 
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I hate to break it to guys, but every woman with any sense of self-preservation lives all the time with the fear of being sexually assaulted. I'm not saying we're hyperventilating and freaking out like a herpetophobe stepping on a snake or anything, but it's something that's always there and always factored into our daily decisions.

Ever known a woman who asked a security guard or a male colleague to walk her to her car when she works late? Refused to go for a walk or a jog at night by herself? Went on a first date with a guy and insisted on meeting him at the restaurant rather than having him pick her up at home? Texted or called a family member or friend to let them know where she was if she was going somewhere unusual to her normal routine? I could go on and on listing everyday adjustments any woman with a brain in her head makes to her everyday life because of the ever-present possibility of being assaulted that's in the back of her mind.

But don't you think there is a thick line between being concerned about a possibility and having lived that fear? I mean, I've never been robbed outside of somebody breaking into my apartment when I wasn't home, but if it's dark outside, I take my gun with me just in case out of concern.

Now had I been robbed in the past, pistol whipped to nearly an inch of my life, I'd be walking around with a gun day or night anywhere I go, even if I were with other people.

Oh, I'm definitely a lot more sensitive to the possibility of being assaulted now that I've had it proven to me that it really can happen.

My point, however, is that all women with even a teaspoonful of brains live with that in the back of their minds all the time. It's to a greater or lesser degree depending on the woman and her life experiences, but we all have it.
 
But have you ever heard of them questioning the original owner about some shooting it was used in?
I haven't.

We know more responsible people most likely so we don't have any personal experience with that. But the fact of the matter is they always make attempts to trace the gun to the suspect. Successful? Probably only part of the time. But if their research leads them to only 10% of the murderers, that's 10% more put in prison we don't have to worry about.
I'm just saying if a pistol is used in a shooting during a carjacking or a robbery, the cops don't go to the guy who bought it 8 years ago and then had it stolen from his truck, and begin treating him as a suspect in the shooting; that doesn't happen.
Unless they actually recover the gun, they can't trace it at all, and they know damn good and well the guy in the suburbs who bought it back when, wasn't involved in some gang beef shooting at a waffle house, or a robbery.

They don't IF they know it was stolen. Without a police report stating that it was, they have no reason to think he doesn't still have it.

It's kinda like cars. If a car is used in a hit-and-run, and the cops find it abandoned a couple of miles away, they're gonna contact the guy on record as owning the car to find out where he was at the time, even if he bought that car years ago . . . unless they have a report in their system telling them that the car was stolen from him.
Yeah, and when the cops come around you hand them your lawyer's business card and tell them to direct all questions to him. Bye now, because I don't talk to cops in situations like this.
Don't come back without a warrant.
 
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