Colorado has shown us the way!

[Marener]

What can Congress do? Especially considering we only have half of it? And a slim majority of that.

The 14th amendment says that if Congress votes by 2/3rds majority in both houses that Trump can run for President again.

So get on it!

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Impeach and get rid of the Democrat party.

We tear down statues of the Democrat civil war heros, time to get rid of the party as well

You don't have the power nor the votes to make that happen.

 

[elektra]

You don't have the power nor the votes to make that happen.

The Democrat party is a dinosaur

Republican states need to remove Biden from the ballot

 

[Moonglow]

Because Biden refuses to adhere to US immigration laws, he has become lawleess.

As such, he should not be on the ballot in any of the 50 states, especially at the border states where they are abused the most by Biden and his lawless regime, Congress, and Judicial branch that does nothing about it.

It's time for change.

Supreme Court decision affirms President Biden's power to set immigration enforcement priorities and protect labor standards through deferred action.Jul 19, 2023

Supreme Court decision affirms President Biden's power to set ...​

 

[kyzr]

The 14th amendment says that if Congress votes by 2/3rds majority in both houses that Trump can run for President again.

So get on it!

You have it ass-backwards.
Congress should have barred Trump from ever running instead of the 2nd Impeachment.
Now Trump is in and can't be stopped from running and winning.

 

[Marener]

You have it ass-backwards.
Congress should have barred Trump from ever running instead of the 2nd Impeachment.
Now Trump is in and can't be stopped from running and winning.

Agree, Congress should have barred Trump from ever running. But the corrupt self serving Republicans in the Senate couldn't do the right thing and put their party and personal interests above that of the country.

 

[JGalt]

The 14th amendment says that if Congress votes by 2/3rds majority in both houses that Trump can run for President again.

So get on it!

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment also says "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Now please feel free to show me when and where Donald Trump was ever charged, tried, and convicted of engaging in insurrection or rebellion.

 

[kyzr]

Agree, Congress should have barred Trump from ever running. But the corrupt self serving Republicans in the Senate couldn't do the right thing and put their party and personal interests above that of the country.

The 2nd Impeachment made no sense.
How can a senator vote to remove a president when he's not in office?
That's as bad as saying Guam can capsize. Its just stupid.
A 2/3 vote to bar Trump would have been a much better choice.

 

[Marener]

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment also says "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Now please feel free to show me when and where Donald Trump was ever charged, tried, and convicted of engaging in insurrection or rebellion.

Trump had his case heard in open court in Colorado. Looks like he had due process of law to me.

 

[Arlette]

Because Biden refuses to adhere to US immigration laws, he has become lawleess.

As such, he should not be on the ballot in any of the 50 states, especially at the border states where they are abused the most by Biden and his lawless regime, Congress, and Judicial branch that does nothing about it.

It's time for change.

Adhering to our obligations as signatories to the 1967 Protocol is not a disqualifier.

Next

 

[Marener]

The 2nd Impeachment made no sense.
How can a senator vote to remove a president when he's not in office?
That's as bad as saying Guam can capsize. Its just stupid.
A 2/3 vote to bar Trump would have been a much better choice.

It's not stupid. There's a reasonable argument to be had on both sides.

Impeachment does not just remove the president from office, but also removes them from being eligible to hold office in the future. If impeachment was merely limited to removal from office, you'd have a better argument that you can't impeach after they leave office. It doesn't make that much sense that the barring from future office could be avoided by any government official simply by resigning before the impeachment goes through.

It's fine to disagree with this argument, and many do, but it's not fair to call it a stupid argument.

See this for further information:

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10565#:~:text=The%20House%20has%20never%20impeached,Secretary%20of%20War%20William%20Belknap.

 

[kyzr]

It's not stupid. There's a reasonable argument to be had on both sides.

Impeachment does not just remove the president from office, but also removes them from being eligible to hold office in the future. If impeachment was merely limited to removal from office, you'd have a better argument that you can't impeach after they leave office. It doesn't make that much sense that the barring from future office could be avoided by any government official simply by resigning before the impeachment goes through.
It's fine to disagree with this argument, and many do, but it's not fair to call it a stupid argument.

Impeach: remove and bar from running
Law: just bar from running

Which makes more sense?

 

[Marener]

Impeach: remove and bar from running
Law: just bar from running

Which makes more sense?

Huh?

What does "Law: just bar from running" mean?

If you mean that Congress can pass a law preventing Trump from running, they can't. For starters, that sounds an awful lot like a bill of attainder. Second, the Constitution lays out who can and can't run for office, and preventing someone from running would require a constitutional amendment.

But maybe that's not what you meant, so please explain.

 

[JGalt]

Trump had his case heard in open court in Colorado. Looks like he had due process of law to me.

Oh, did he commit "insurrection" in Colorado? Do you even know the difference between a state crime and a federal crime?

Rebellion, insurrection, sedition, and treason are federal crimes. They are not under the jurisdiction of an individual state. A federal crime has to be investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and tried by federal judges, and in a federal court.

You can't really be that dumb.

 

[Marener]

Oh, did he commit "insurrection" in Colorado? Do you even know the difference between a state crime and a federal crime?

Rebellion, insurrection, sedition, and treason are federal crimes. They are not under the jurisdiction of an individual state. A federal crime has to be investigated by federal law enforcement agencies and tried by federal judges, and in a federal court.

You can't really be that dumb.

He's not being convicted of a crime of insurrection, dumbass.

He's being declared ineligible to be on the ballot in Colorado.

This is not a criminal proceeding. Do you understand the difference between criminal and civil court?

 

[Rawley]

YOur made up crisis isn't really going to affect me.

Just curious, where do you live that you are not being affected by illegal immigration?

 

[JGalt]

He's not being convicted of a crime of insurrection, dumbass.

He's being declared ineligible to be on the ballot in Colorado.

This is not a criminal proceeding. Do you understand the difference between criminal and civil court?

Once again, Section 1 of the 14th Amendment also says "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Now please feel free to show me when and where Donald Trump was ever charged, tried, and convicted of engaging in insurrection or rebellion. Then show me in the US Constitution where it says the state of Colorado has the legal right to deny Trump to be on the ballot. The presidential election is a federal election, not a state election. It's not within their jurisdiction to decide who can or cannot be on the ballot, and Colorado is setting themselves up to have their dick slapped by the US Supreme Court.

 

[JGalt]

YOur made up crisis isn't really going to affect me.

I'm going to laugh at you when is does, and I hope it does in a violent way.

That's just the kinda guy I am.

 

[Rawley]

He's not being convicted of a crime of insurrection, dumbass.

He's being declared ineligible to be on the ballot in Colorado.

This is not a criminal proceeding. Do you understand the difference between criminal and civil court?

Yup, in your "interpretation" of the 14th, he's being adjudged guilty of a crime in a civil action to which he's not even a party!

This will be 8-1 or hopefully 9-0 in the USSC

 

[Marener]

Yup, in your "interpretation" of the 14th, he's being adjudged guilty of a crime in a civil action to which he's not even a party!

This will be 8-1 or hopefully 9-0 in the USSC

You are factually incorrect. Trump was defendant in the lawsuit and his lawyers presented their case before the judge.

Trial begins on whether Trump should be kept off Colorado ballot in 2024

The lawsuit alleges Trump violated his oath of office in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, leading up to the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.nbcnews.com

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