CNN (June 11th): No criminal charges expected against Clinton in email probe

[Faun]

Yes.....hilary is a criminal...you morons don't care and we will all suffer for it....

The Facts Keep Undermining Hillary’s E-mail Tales, by David French, National Review

You don't have to suffer. Leave. There's the door. Don't let the door knob hit ya on the way out.

 

[Faun]

Strings like this amuse me. How has the FBI decided there isn't criminal activity that's taken place when they haven't gotten all of Clinton's deleted emails yet and haven't even bothered to interview the subject of the investigation? CNN should be ashamed of themselves for putting out crap like this.

The FBI has nothing

No sensitive information was leaked...no harm, no foul

Sensitive information was put on a personal server without the type of security that those kinds of communications warranted. Nobody knows if Clinton's two servers were hacked but it would have been rather easy to do so.

That aside...it's the act of conducting official business on personal email accounts that is the "foul" here! Clinton knowingly set up an email account to hide what she was doing at State from Congressional oversight. How do we KNOW she was hiding it? Because when Congressional investigators asked her to turn over ALL communications regarding Benghazi...Clinton didn't turn over ANY of her emails from those two private servers. She hid the existence of those servers.

What kind of security did she have on her server?

 

[Hossfly]

Strings like this amuse me. How has the FBI decided there isn't criminal activity that's taken place when they haven't gotten all of Clinton's deleted emails yet and haven't even bothered to interview the subject of the investigation? CNN should be ashamed of themselves for putting out crap like this.

The FBI has nothing

No sensitive information was leaked...no harm, no foul

Sensitive information was put on a personal server without the type of security that those kinds of communications warranted. Nobody knows if Clinton's two servers were hacked but it would have been rather easy to do so.

That aside...it's the act of conducting official business on personal email accounts that is the "foul" here! Clinton knowingly set up an email account to hide what she was doing at State from Congressional oversight. How do we KNOW she was hiding it? Because when Congressional investigators asked her to turn over ALL communications regarding Benghazi...Clinton didn't turn over ANY of her emails from those two private servers. She hid the existence of those servers.

What kind of security did she have on her server?

Ask Putin.

 

[Faun]

Strings like this amuse me. How has the FBI decided there isn't criminal activity that's taken place when they haven't gotten all of Clinton's deleted emails yet and haven't even bothered to interview the subject of the investigation? CNN should be ashamed of themselves for putting out crap like this.

The FBI has nothing

No sensitive information was leaked...no harm, no foul

Sensitive information was put on a personal server without the type of security that those kinds of communications warranted. Nobody knows if Clinton's two servers were hacked but it would have been rather easy to do so.

That aside...it's the act of conducting official business on personal email accounts that is the "foul" here! Clinton knowingly set up an email account to hide what she was doing at State from Congressional oversight. How do we KNOW she was hiding it? Because when Congressional investigators asked her to turn over ALL communications regarding Benghazi...Clinton didn't turn over ANY of her emails from those two private servers. She hid the existence of those servers.

What kind of security did she have on her server?

Ask Putin.

When Putin makes such claims on this forum, I will. Until then, I'm asking those who are claiming here that her server was not adequately secured.

 

[Hossfly]

Strings like this amuse me. How has the FBI decided there isn't criminal activity that's taken place when they haven't gotten all of Clinton's deleted emails yet and haven't even bothered to interview the subject of the investigation? CNN should be ashamed of themselves for putting out crap like this.

The FBI has nothing

No sensitive information was leaked...no harm, no foul

Sensitive information was put on a personal server without the type of security that those kinds of communications warranted. Nobody knows if Clinton's two servers were hacked but it would have been rather easy to do so.

That aside...it's the act of conducting official business on personal email accounts that is the "foul" here! Clinton knowingly set up an email account to hide what she was doing at State from Congressional oversight. How do we KNOW she was hiding it? Because when Congressional investigators asked her to turn over ALL communications regarding Benghazi...Clinton didn't turn over ANY of her emails from those two private servers. She hid the existence of those servers.

What kind of security did she have on her server?

Ask Putin.

When Putin makes such claims on this forum, I will. Until then, I'm asking those who are claiming here that her server was not adequately secured.

We'll find out when the FBI makes a report.

 

[Faun]

The FBI has nothing

No sensitive information was leaked...no harm, no foul

Sensitive information was put on a personal server without the type of security that those kinds of communications warranted. Nobody knows if Clinton's two servers were hacked but it would have been rather easy to do so.

That aside...it's the act of conducting official business on personal email accounts that is the "foul" here! Clinton knowingly set up an email account to hide what she was doing at State from Congressional oversight. How do we KNOW she was hiding it? Because when Congressional investigators asked her to turn over ALL communications regarding Benghazi...Clinton didn't turn over ANY of her emails from those two private servers. She hid the existence of those servers.

What kind of security did she have on her server?

Ask Putin.

When Putin makes such claims on this forum, I will. Until then, I'm asking those who are claiming here that her server was not adequately secured.

We'll find out when the FBI makes a report.

You can do that. Since you don't speak for Oldstyle, I'll still wait for his informative response.

 

[bripat9643]

Bad news for the fake-scandal peddlers, butthurt Bernie supporters and right-wing nuts from CNN in an article today (June 11th, 2016:

The FBI has not yet interviewed Clinton as part of its investigation. As CNN first reported, investigators have not found evidence to support criminal charges against Clinton and none are expected, but no final determination will be made until that interview has taken place.

FBI investigating drone emails as part of Clinton server probe - CNNPolitics.com

Says who?

 

[TemplarKormac]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

 

[Crixus]

Why Hillary will not be indicted

Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

The Bush administration leaked her name in retaliation for political statements made by her husband. Plames cover was broken and her life was jeopardized. Nobody in the Bush administration was punished and Bush pardoned those who were blamed

Yet, Republicans hold a witch hunt over Hillary having a server where no classified information was actually leaked

Place was nothing but a chick that served coffee and cookies at the CIA. No cover was blown. This is why it went away so fast.

 

[Faun]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

 

[TemplarKormac]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

 

[Faun]

Why Hillary will not be indicted

Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

The Bush administration leaked her name in retaliation for political statements made by her husband. Plames cover was broken and her life was jeopardized. Nobody in the Bush administration was punished and Bush pardoned those who were blamed

Yet, Republicans hold a witch hunt over Hillary having a server where no classified information was actually leaked

Place was nothing but a chick that served coffee and cookies at the CIA. No cover was blown. This is why it went away so fast.

Why would any lucid person take your inconsequential ramblings over the word of the lead investigator on the case who said she was a covert CIA operative at the time Novak exposed her?

"She traveled at least seven times to more than 10 countries," the document states. "When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity … At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States." ~ Patrick Fitzgerald​

Emphasis added. Read more

 

[Faun]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

I have the FBI researching it for me. As far as your claims that she broke the law, again... you should contact the FBI with your findings since the word being leaked out is that Hillary has not been found to have committed any crimes. They need your help. Without you, she may escape prosecution!

 

[TemplarKormac]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

I have the FBI researching it for me. As far as your claims that she broke the law, again... you should contact the FBI with your findings since the word being leaked out is that Hillary has not been found to have committed any crimes. They need your help. Without you, she may escape prosecution!

And that sarcasm betrays the fact you have no proof to the contrary!

Saying "Nuh uh!" is not a sufficient argument.

 

[Faun]

These are the laws that Hillary could have broken:

18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information
18 U.S. Code § 1924 – Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material
18 U.S. Code § 2071(b) — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
18 U.S. Code § 641 – Public money, property or records
18 U.S. Code § 1505 – Obstruction of proceedings before departments, agencies, and committees
18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations
18 U.S. Code § 1031 — Fraud against the United States
18 U.S. Code § 1343 – Fraud by wire, radio or television
18 U.S. Code § 1346 — Definition of “scheme or artifice to defraud”
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to defraud the United States
18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit a federal offense

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

I have the FBI researching it for me. As far as your claims that she broke the law, again... you should contact the FBI with your findings since the word being leaked out is that Hillary has not been found to have committed any crimes. They need your help. Without you, she may escape prosecution!

And that sarcasm betrays the fact you have no proof to the contrary!

Saying "Nuh uh!" is not a sufficient argument.

I need no evidence to the contrary. You're the one making bold accusations the FBI is apparently missing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Let's review. She received an email in 2012 that was marked classified at the time she received it on her private server, which additionally held other government documents and classified information; that means she violated §793 and §1924. In her attempt to destroy the e-mail, she violated §371 (Conspiracy to commit a federal offense), §641, §793, §1343, §1505, §1519 and §2071. In lying to the government about deleting that e-mail, she violated §371, §1031, and §1505.

It has been speculated that her home brew server was also compromised by foreign hackers, in that case she broke §798.

Case closed.

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

I have the FBI researching it for me. As far as your claims that she broke the law, again... you should contact the FBI with your findings since the word being leaked out is that Hillary has not been found to have committed any crimes. They need your help. Without you, she may escape prosecution!

And that sarcasm betrays the fact you have no proof to the contrary!

Saying "Nuh uh!" is not a sufficient argument.

I need no evidence to the contrary. You're the one making bold accusations the FBI is apparently missing.

Let's translate the bullshitese:

"I need no evidence" means "I have no evidence."

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're just too lazy to disprove my argument, Faun. For shame.

Moving on...

 

[Crixus]

Why Hillary will not be indicted

Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

The Bush administration leaked her name in retaliation for political statements made by her husband. Plames cover was broken and her life was jeopardized. Nobody in the Bush administration was punished and Bush pardoned those who were blamed

Yet, Republicans hold a witch hunt over Hillary having a server where no classified information was actually leaked

Place was nothing but a chick that served coffee and cookies at the CIA. No cover was blown. This is why it went away so fast.

Why would any lucid person take your inconsequential ramblings over the word of the lead investigator on the case who said she was a covert CIA operative at the time Novak exposed her?

"She traveled at least seven times to more than 10 countries," the document states. "When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity … At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States." ~ Patrick Fitzgerald​

Emphasis added. Read more

She was nothing but a twit. She was no undercover operative. She was a stateside nerd and nothing more. No national security was threatened because she was outed, she was not under cover. No matter what you say, she was at best a secretary.

 

[Faun]

You should notify the FBI immediately with this information. Sounds like they could use your help to get her indicted.

That was just based on the information already made available to the public, Faun. Far be it from you to do any kind of research into the matter.

I have the FBI researching it for me. As far as your claims that she broke the law, again... you should contact the FBI with your findings since the word being leaked out is that Hillary has not been found to have committed any crimes. They need your help. Without you, she may escape prosecution!

And that sarcasm betrays the fact you have no proof to the contrary!

Saying "Nuh uh!" is not a sufficient argument.

I need no evidence to the contrary. You're the one making bold accusations the FBI is apparently missing.

Let's translate the bullshitese:

"I need no evidence" means "I have no evidence."

I'm going by the report that the FBI is wrapping up their investigation and that no criminal charges are expected. Who knows why you think I need to prove you wrong when the FBI is already [apparently] doing that?

But again ... and I'm tryin' to help you out here ... you should contact the FBI with your findings. If you don't, Hillary might walk scot-free. How could you live with yourself if you let that happen?

 

[Faun]

Why Hillary will not be indicted

Valerie Plame Wilson: No Ordinary Spy

The Bush administration leaked her name in retaliation for political statements made by her husband. Plames cover was broken and her life was jeopardized. Nobody in the Bush administration was punished and Bush pardoned those who were blamed

Yet, Republicans hold a witch hunt over Hillary having a server where no classified information was actually leaked

Place was nothing but a chick that served coffee and cookies at the CIA. No cover was blown. This is why it went away so fast.

Why would any lucid person take your inconsequential ramblings over the word of the lead investigator on the case who said she was a covert CIA operative at the time Novak exposed her?

"She traveled at least seven times to more than 10 countries," the document states. "When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity … At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert CIA employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States." ~ Patrick Fitzgerald​

Emphasis added. Read more

She was nothing but a twit. She was no undercover operative. She was a stateside nerd and nothing more. No national security was threatened because she was outed, she was not under cover. No matter what you say, she was at best a secretary.

It's not what I say, it's what the lead investigator said. Any rational person would accept his word on the matter over yours. And you didn't answer my question.... why would any lucid person take your word over his?