Climate Change Remains Unsettled, Say 31,072 Scientists

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so Obama and his comrades are lying to us AGAIN..wake up folks
Obama along with the UN has become a danger to us and our livelihood's .


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Tuesday, 20 May 2014 03:26 PM

By Cheryl K. Chumley


While the United Nations and the Obama administration assert that climate change is settled science and requires dramatic regulatory oversight, 31,072 U.S. scientists have signed the Petition Project, saying the issue remains decidedly unsettled.


"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will in the foreseeable future cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate," the petition says.



"The purpose of the Petition Project is to demonstrate that the claim of 'settled science' and an overwhelming 'consensus' in favor of the hypothesis of human-caused global warming and consequent climatological damage is wrong," the petition asserts. "No such consensus or settled science exists."

Over 9,000 of the petition's signatories have a Ph.D. in a scientific field.

For all the talk of "settled science," all that has been settled is the stunning inaccuracies of alarmists — from failed computer models and a discredited "hockey stick" graphic that pointed to exponential warming, to dire predictions of melting Himalayan glaciers, receding rain forests, increases in hurricane activity, and the end of snow.

Other climate-change claims include assertions that the United States has suffered the warmest temperatures ever recorded in recent years and that the melting polar icecaps will cause drastic sea rises, leading to widespread flooding and death.

But those are all myths, according to the World Climate Report, whose editor is climatologist Patrick Michaels, a prominent skeptic of anthropogenic global warming — the notion that mankind's greenhouse gas emissions are driving catastrophic climate change.

Historical temperature records for the United States are spotty at best, and "after removing biases caused by urbanization, thermometer relocations, instrument changes, and so on, it is clear that there is no trend in mean annual temperatures in the last 65 years" in the United States, the World Climate Report found. In fact, "aside from a sharp rise from 1915 to 1930, when trace-gas concentrations were low, the trend is essentially zero."

The report also found that Northern Hemisphere temperature changes have been greatly exaggerated, and "based on the best available temperature records," the region has actually warmed only "about 0.65 degrees Celsius [about 1.1 degree F.] since 1860."

The report noted, "We weren't producing much [carbon dioxide] prior to 1945, so the greenhouse effect should have been most prevalent in the last 40 years. But most of the temperature increase occurred prior to 1945."

Todd Myers, director of the Center for the Environment at the Washington Policy Center, said: "It's true, temperatures have risen, but not in the last 15 years."


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Oh my, ol' Staph is trotting out the venerable OISM petition project. If you are stupid enough to be taken in by that peice of crap, you are stupid indeed.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Warming Petition Project, also known as the Oregon Petition, is a petition urging the United States government to reject the global warming Kyoto Protocol of 1997 and similar policies.[1] It was organized and circulated by Arthur B. Robinson, president of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in 1998, and again in 2007.[2][3] Past National Academy of Sciences president Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.[4]

According to Robinson, the petition has over 31,000 signatories. Over 9,000 report to have a Ph.D.,[1][2][3] mostly in engineering.[5] The NIPCC (2009) Report lists 31,478 degreed signatories, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s.[6] The list has been criticized for its lack of verification, with pranksters successfully submitting Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, and getting them briefly included on the list.[7]
 
The entire Wikipedia article on that petition needs to be read. Stephanie, could you let us know what you think of the petition once you've reviewed the comments in Wikipedia?
 
It's not "Climate Change" it's now called "Climate Three Card Monte"

Three_Card_Monte.jpg


The lab experiment showing the link between CO2 and temperature in under one of these cards
 
Oh my, ol' Staph is trotting out the venerable OISM petition project. If you are stupid enough to be taken in by that peice of crap, you are stupid indeed.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Warming Petition Project, also known as the Oregon Petition, is a petition urging the United States government to reject the global warming Kyoto Protocol of 1997 and similar policies.[1] It was organized and circulated by Arthur B. Robinson, president of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in 1998, and again in 2007.[2][3] Past National Academy of Sciences president Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.[4]

According to Robinson, the petition has over 31,000 signatories. Over 9,000 report to have a Ph.D.,[1][2][3] mostly in engineering.[5] The NIPCC (2009) Report lists 31,478 degreed signatories, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s.[6] The list has been criticized for its lack of verification, with pranksters successfully submitting Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, and getting them briefly included on the list.[7]

Tell 'em about those Oregon Oysters! They're melting from CO2, amiright?
 
Oh my, ol' Staph is trotting out the venerable OISM petition project. If you are stupid enough to be taken in by that peice of crap, you are stupid indeed.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Warming Petition Project, also known as the Oregon Petition, is a petition urging the United States government to reject the global warming Kyoto Protocol of 1997 and similar policies.[1] It was organized and circulated by Arthur B. Robinson, president of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in 1998, and again in 2007.[2][3] Past National Academy of Sciences president Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.[4]

According to Robinson, the petition has over 31,000 signatories. Over 9,000 report to have a Ph.D.,[1][2][3] mostly in engineering.[5] The NIPCC (2009) Report lists 31,478 degreed signatories, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s.[6] The list has been criticized for its lack of verification, with pranksters successfully submitting Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, and getting them briefly included on the list.[7]

Right, some of the AGWCult signed the petition, so what?
 
Oh my, ol' Staph is trotting out the venerable OISM petition project. If you are stupid enough to be taken in by that peice of crap, you are stupid indeed.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Warming Petition Project, also known as the Oregon Petition, is a petition urging the United States government to reject the global warming Kyoto Protocol of 1997 and similar policies.[1] It was organized and circulated by Arthur B. Robinson, president of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in 1998, and again in 2007.[2][3] Past National Academy of Sciences president Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.[4]

According to Robinson, the petition has over 31,000 signatories. Over 9,000 report to have a Ph.D.,[1][2][3] mostly in engineering.[5] The NIPCC (2009) Report lists 31,478 degreed signatories, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s.[6] The list has been criticized for its lack of verification, with pranksters successfully submitting Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, and getting them briefly included on the list.[7]


Wikipedia? Really? Laughing in your face rocks...laughing in your face.
 
Do you have anything refuting Wikipedia's comments?

References[edit]
^ Jump up to: a b Brennan, Phil (May 19, 2008). "31,000 Scientists Debunk Al Gore and Global Warming". Newsmax. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
^ Jump up to: a b Avery, Dennis (May 24, 2008). "31000 scientists sign Oregon GW Skeptic Petition". Canada Free Press. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
^ Jump up to: a b Henry, Devin (May 28, 2008). "Climate change petition pits scientists against each other". Minnesota Daily. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
^ Jump up to: a b "What warming consensus?". The Washington Times. November 16, 1998. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
Jump up ^ Morrison, David (September–October 2011). Reports of the National Center for Science Education. National Center for Science Education. ISSN 2159-9270.
Jump up ^ Idso, Craig and S. Fred Singer (2009). "Climate Change Reconsidered: 2009 Report of the Nongovernmental Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC), Appendix 4, The Petition Project". The Heartland Institute. ISBN 978-1-934791-28-8. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
Jump up ^ Mann, Michael E. (2012). The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars. Columbia University Press. p. 66.
Jump up ^ "Global Warming Petition Project". Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. Retrieved 2012-08-25.
Jump up ^ Frederick Seitz. "Letter from Frederick Seitz". OISM. Retrieved 2010-01-11.
Jump up ^ A. B. Robinson, S. L. Baliunas, W. Soon, & Z. W. Robinson (1998). "Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide". J. Am. Physicians and Surgeons 3, 171-178.
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^ Jump up to: a b Joseph H. Hubert Odd Names Added to Greenhouse Plea Associated Press. (abridged version) 1 May, 1998.
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Jump up ^ "Frequently Asked Questions". Global Warming Petition Project. Retrieved 2010-09-10.
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^ Jump up to: a b c David Malakoff (10 April 1998). "Climate Change: Advocacy Mailing Draws Fire". Science 195 (5361): 195. doi:10.1126/science.280.5361.195a.
^ Jump up to: a b "Statement by the Council of the National Academy of Sciences regarding Global Change Petition" (Press release). National Academy of Sciences. April 20, 1998. Retrieved 2010-03-04.
Jump up ^ Mark Hertsgaard (May 2006). "While Washington Slept".
 
For instance, how do you respond to the OISM's clumsy attempt to make readers think the accompanying material was peer reviewed and had been published in PNAS?

For instance, how do you respond to the statements of OISM managers that they could not verify the identity and qualifications of their signatories?

For instance, how do you respond to the generous count showing that out of the over 30,000 signatures, 38 were actually climate scientists?

So, what, exactly, are you laughing at?
 
Great thread.......most scientists with advanced degrees ( MS/PHd) know that the climate science is BS.....because they've been in a lab and understand the dynamic of scientific experimental error which is not at all taken into account by the climate science community desperate to rig the data. That is FACT!!


Hey......Im going to see Godzilla tonight......apparently has an anti-alarmist climate science message.....and how refreshing will that be??!!!!!!!!!!
 
The entire Wikipedia article on that petition needs to be read. Stephanie, could you let us know what you think of the petition once you've reviewed the comments in Wikipedia?

I don't take Wikipedia as a unbiased source of information...but you can and if's it's so important bring it over here
 
That was why I posted all the references to the Wikipedia article. The source material was quite respectable. The Wiki article isn't long to read. If you think the OISM petition is worth considering, you should read it.
 
Oh my, ol' Staph is trotting out the venerable OISM petition project. If you are stupid enough to be taken in by that peice of crap, you are stupid indeed.

Oregon Petition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Global Warming Petition Project, also known as the Oregon Petition, is a petition urging the United States government to reject the global warming Kyoto Protocol of 1997 and similar policies.[1] It was organized and circulated by Arthur B. Robinson, president of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine in 1998, and again in 2007.[2][3] Past National Academy of Sciences president Frederick Seitz wrote a cover letter endorsing the petition.[4]

According to Robinson, the petition has over 31,000 signatories. Over 9,000 report to have a Ph.D.,[1][2][3] mostly in engineering.[5] The NIPCC (2009) Report lists 31,478 degreed signatories, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s.[6] The list has been criticized for its lack of verification, with pranksters successfully submitting Charles Darwin, members of the Spice Girls and characters from Star Wars, and getting them briefly included on the list.[7]


Wikipedia? Really? Laughing in your face rocks...laughing in your face.

Seriously. No one has denied the climate changes.
 
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If we ever start warming again this shit will go away!

how will warming make the uncertainty go away? it may help the pathetic model results get back into 5-95% range but it cannot help the crap science and unethical behaviour of the climate 'scientists'. why do you think so many people are skeptics? do you actually know anyone who has been bought by 'big oil'? hahahahaha
 
Nothing is going to help "the crap science and unethical behavior" because those items have no reality to alter. They are the manufactured charges of the fossil fuel industry's propaganda advisers. Reality has nothing to do with them.

The $580 million dollars spent on denier funding went somewhere, didn't it Ian. And if you want to see someone specifically bought and sold you need look no further than the Heartland Institute.
 
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Nothing is settled!!! Has anybody ever seen more of a bastardization of a term in their lives?

Climate change science is "settled" only to the fringe progressives!!!!




"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world."

- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment



“The models are convenient fictions
that provide something very useful.”

- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University


The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”

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Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research







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