Civics should be mandatory for all children before they graduate

But the democrat mantra says the dumber you are, the better.
Zackly. Today's liberal 'education' is nothing but organized ignorance.

"Kids are taught what others need them to know, not what they need to know." -Woodznutz

The irony is that in their effort to abolish ignorance through higher education they have institutionalized it.
 
No. A good grounding in civics should clearly illustrate why the Constitution gives the U.S. government no authority in education and why a central government should have no power/involvement in public education. Allowing any government control over the message, content, methods of directing the minds of children should be rejected by every person who values liberty.
Too late. The Feds have thoroughly infected the education system.
 
But the democrat mantra says the dumber you are, the better.
I don't know that I would go that far. But I do believe the Democrats are actively working to control the message, the content, have total authority over what children will be taught, and they intend to deny points of view to be expressed that don't further their doctrines, dogmas, and agenda.
 
Yes they have. And if good people don't push back against that, it will only get worse. A solid grounding in Civics would wake a lot of people up that there is a far better way than the totalitarian left's intentions, dogma, doctrines, agenda.
In a democracy the government carries out the reasonable wishes of the people. If they don't then the people get to carry out their own wishes, without the middleman.
 
We live in a republic. ...and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands!
Who is the gatekeeper of the republic, and as Franklin warned, are we losing it? Specifically, how long can the representatives of the people thwart the will of the people who elected them before there is a revolution?

To date the electorate has effectively been beaten into submission by the unending tyranny of our elected leaders.
 
Define "worthwhile".
That which improves everybody's lives and not just pet constituencies. That which promotes personal responsibility and accountability and initiative and inspires us to improve, create, produce, be better versions of ourselves. That which does not make people dependent on the whims or agendas of others but liberates them.
 
That which improves everybody's lives and not just pet constituencies. That which promotes personal responsibility and accountability and initiative and inspires us to improve, create, produce, be better versions of ourselves. That which does not make people dependent on the whims or agendas of others but liberates them.
How is that related to civics as it is currently understood? Can you give some specifics?

Do you agree with this statement?

"People are taught what others need them to know, not what they need to know."
 
In a democracy the government carries out the reasonable wishes of the people. If they don't then the people get to carry out their own wishes, without the middleman.
No. Democracy is a cruel master. It is fine for establishing the social contract as to what we want government to be and do. But it is a cruel means of governance. Our constitutional republic, until we allowed it to be corrupted and that was due to lack of training and understanding of civics and/or due to apathy, was to be a government of, for, and by the people that worked for the people instead of its own interests and profit. It contains checks and balances that temper the power and dangers of majority rule.
 
How is that related to civics as it is currently understood? Can you give some specifics?

Do you agree with this statement?

"People are taught what others need them to know, not what they need to know."
Civics taught impartially and without prejudice produces a society that understands my comments you quoted. Given honest and good information, people will still make mistakes but they will recognize and correct them and generally make far better choices. These days far too much education is what the majority left wants the children to believe and what they don't want children to know.

Example. Christopher Columbus was a man of his time and culture as any other. He did make some choices that bothered even the people who funded his ventures, and those choices should not be commended. But neither should they damn what else he accomplished or downplay the courage it took to sail into the unknown and how that changed the world forever. God used some of the unlikeliest and seemingly unworthy people, i.e. sinners, to accomplish great things. And history informs us that men and women, however much they were flawed human beings, have also accomplished great things. Children should not be taught to condemn southerners who were throwing off what they thought was an oppressive and unresponsive government, but should be taught to consider and think critically whether that was the better or worse choice to deal with the situation. After all, if the Founders had not done the same thing to England, there would be no USA now.

A solid, unprejudicial grounding in civics and how we came to be who we are as a people cannot help but help people to think critically and responsibility and reject the indoctrination of those who would control our thoughts, speech, minds, understanding.
 
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No. Democracy is a cruel master. It is fine for establishing the social contract as to what we want government to be and do. But it is a cruel means of governance. Our constitutional republic, until we allowed it to be corrupted and that was due to lack of training and understanding of civics and/or due to apathy, was to be a government of, for, and by the people that worked for the people instead of its own interests and profit. It contains checks and balances that temper the power and dangers of majority rule.
Cruel only as it opposes the base nature of people. Happily for those who live by their base nature such things are nothing more than an intellectual exercise, which gives place to plea bargaining, which in turn subverts every principle needed to maintain good order.
 
Civics taught impartially and without prejudice produces a society that understands my comments you quoted. Given honest and good information, people will still make mistakes but they will recognize and correct them and generally make far better choices. These days far too much education is what the majority left wants the children to believe and what they don't want children to know.
Knowledge is power. That's why we are so powerless. :(
 
Yes they have. And if good people don't push back against that, it will only get worse. A solid grounding in Civics would wake a lot of people up that there is a far better way than the totalitarian left's intentions, dogma, doctrines, agenda.

Which specific areas of Civics make you a better person?
 
It's worthless if it's not being taught right.

It's the same as studying, really. You can study all you want, but if you don't know how to study, you're wasting your time and it's self-defeating.
 
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