Civics should be mandatory for all children before they graduate

[rightwinger]

I know people with children in school. I have a step great granddaughter taken out of school in California on an emergency basis and sent to relatives in Texas.

A high school honor student was taught and explained to me that Hitler was in the KKK, and hated blacks. WWII was fought to free the slaves.

Sounds like Q theories

 

[Concerned American]

Exactly. People should be taught that they have a civic and personal responsibility to be healthy, have a job, and obey the law.

Students should be taught that they have a responsibility to pay attention and learn what is being taught.

Parents should be taught that they are role models for their kids, for better or worse.

With no emphasis on learning about the system under which they are to be governed? Yeah, that's the way to create a society of good little lemmings.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Sounds like Q theories

You are a Democrat and in a much better position to know what Q theories are than I am.

 

[Woodznutz]

With no emphasis on learning about the system under which they are to be governed? Yeah, that's the way to create a society of good little lemmings.

They're learning how to subvert the system, as in the last election. Also, people vote for the candidates that scratch their 'itching ears', not what is good for the country.

 

[Winco]

I know people with children in school. I have a step great granddaughter taken out of school in California on an emergency basis and sent to relatives in Texas.

A high school honor student was taught and explained to me that Hitler was in the KKK, and hated blacks. WWII was fought to free the slaves.

Must suck to have dumb family members that can’t reiterate what was actually taught.

 

[Foxfyre]

Before getting a diploma, all children should be able to pass a proficiency test in Civics.

Everyone should understand exactly how their government works.

This ignorance of so many people is astonishing.

I was talking to a 39 year old woman the other day who said there are 52 states. She got mad at me when I corrected her.

Does the government WANT people to be ignorant about how the government is formed and operated?

Agree. Mandatory requirements for graduation from high school and college should include a politically neutral basic course in the founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and what it actually means, the U.S. Constitution, and the basic theories of government: communism/socialism vs capitalism, how a democratic constitutional republic differs from other forms of government, etc.

And because 'wokeism' is so utterly stupid and counter productive to a healthy nation, there also should be education in how culture changes over time, why people thought as they did in their own time, how that thinking and their choices affected their time and our time, and why they should not be personally judged by what passes for 22nd Century morality now.

 

[Concerned American]

They're learning how to subvert the system, as in the last election. Also, people vote for the candidates that scratch their 'itching ears', not what is good for the country.

More the reason for universal education in civics.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If those qualified to write it decline, it's up to me, isn't it? After all, it's my idea, and many parents seem to need the information.

You don't suddenly become qualified by the disqualification of someone else. The fact that it's your idea is meaningless, really.

But, with regards to those who you believe are "qualified", what qualifies them?

When I became a father, the only teacher I had was my life's experiences with my own parents. My brother and I turned out pretty well, so emulating my parents seemed like the best way to go. What better teacher is there than your own life experience?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Good for Idaho.

It should be federal. Let the Department of Education actually do something.

Federally mandated 7th grade Civics for every public school.

I thought you didn't want federal control of education. What else does the Ed Department mandate already?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Agree. Mandatory requirements for graduation from high school and college should include a politically neutral basic course in the founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and what it actually means, the U.S. Constitution, and the basic theories of government: communism/socialism vs capitalism, how a democratic constitutional republic differs from other forms of government, etc.

And because 'wokeism' is so utterly stupid and counter productive to a healthy nation, there also should be education in how culture changes over time, why people thought as they did in their own time, how that thinking and their choices affected their time and our time, and why they should not be personally judged by what passes for 22nd Century morality now.

Contact your state legislator.

 

[Foxfyre]

Contact your state legislator.

I unfortunately live in a deep blue state that has never had anything other than a Democrat controlled legislature and we have a 'woke' ultra leftist governor. And we are always at or near the bottom in education.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I unfortunately live in a deep blue state that has never had anything other than a Democrat controlled legislature and we have a 'woke' ultra leftist governor. And we are always at or near the bottom in education.

Move.

 

[Foxfyre]

Civics is way down the list of things we need to be teaching.

I disagree. People with a solid grounding in U.S. and world history, the founding documents, the U.S. Constitution, how government works and why different forms of government produce different standards of living for the citizens and are encouraged to think critically about all that is critical to avoiding the mistakes that are disastrous, counter productive, increase the misery index for all citizens. Avoiding those mistakes paves the way to good choices in pretty much everything else.

 

[Stryder50]

EXCERPT:

Listed below are the 128 civics questions and answers for the 2020 version of the civics test.

These questions cover important topics about American government and history. The civics
test is an oral test and the USCIS officer will ask you to answer 20 out of the 128 civics test
questions. You must answer at least 12 questions (or 60%) correctly to pass the 2020 version
of the civics test.

On the civics test, some answers may change because of elections or appointments. Visit
uscis.gov/citizenship/testupdates to find any answers that may have changed on the civics
test. You must answer the question with the name of the official serving at the time of your
naturalization interview.

Although USCIS is aware that there may be additional correct answers to the civics questions,
applicants are encouraged to respond to the questions using the answers provided below.
65/20 Special Consideration

If you are 65 years old or older and have been living in the United States as a lawful permanent
resident of the United States for 20 or more years, you may study just the 20 questions that
have been marked with an asterisk ( ) found at the end of each question. You may also take
the civics test in the language of your choice. The USCIS officer will ask you to answer 10 out of
the 20 civics test questions with an asterisk. You must answer at least 6 out of 10 questions (or
60%) correctly to pass the 2020 version of the civics test.
128 Civics Questions and Answers (2020 version)

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/crc/M_1778.pdf

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Were it up to me, one would be tested on all 128 questions and need at least a 60% correct score to get a High School Diploma. - Minimum.

However, my real preference would be a 70% score to get the diploma and also to be allowed to Vote.

 

[Woodznutz]

You don't suddenly become qualified by the disqualification of someone else. The fact that it's your idea is meaningless, really.

But, with regards to those who you believe are "qualified", what qualifies them?

When I became a father, the only teacher I had was my life's experiences with my own parents. My brother and I turned out pretty well, so emulating my parents seemed like the best way to go. What better teacher is there than your own life experience?

All ideas are meaningless, until they are tried. What the 'experts' are doing doesn't seem to be working. Maybe it's time for an amateur to step up.

 

[Concerned American]

I disagree. People with a solid grounding in U.S. and world history, the founding documents, the U.S. Constitution, how government works and why different forms of government produce different standards of living for the citizens and are encouraged to think critically about all that is critical to avoiding the mistakes that are disastrous, counter productive, increase the misery index for all citizens. Avoiding those mistakes paves the way to good choices in pretty much everything else.

But the democrat mantra says the dumber you are, the better.

 

[Concerned American]

Maybe it's time for an amateur to step up.

That is what has gotten into the terrible shape that we are in.

 

[Woodznutz]

I disagree. People with a solid grounding in U.S. and world history, the founding documents, the U.S. Constitution, how government works and why different forms of government produce different standards of living for the citizens and are encouraged to think critically about all that is critical to avoiding the mistakes that are disastrous, counter productive, increase the misery index for all citizens. Avoiding those mistakes paves the way to good choices in pretty much everything else.

First things first, then we'll get to civics.

 

[Foxfyre]

Good for Idaho.

It should be federal. Let the Department of Education actually do something.

Federally mandated 7th grade Civics for every public school.

No. A good grounding in civics should clearly illustrate why the Constitution gives the U.S. government no authority in education and why a central government should have no power/involvement in public education. Allowing any government control over the message, content, methods of directing the minds of children should be rejected by every person who values liberty.

 

[Foxfyre]

First things first, then we'll get to civics.

Without a good grounding in civics we are unlikely to get to anything else worthwhile.