City Council votes to remove Statue because of "submissive" pose of Sacagawea

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"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
I don't give a fuck about Alabama. They can secede for all I care. It would be great for America. Now if you want to allow for states to ignore the Constitution, then go ahead and try to get the votes, snowflake.
What will you do when it comes to your STATE CITY TOWN HOME STREET it's hitting us all and in every way there is......

What you like someonne else doesn't do you want them to have that rigght ot take it c'monn augie. LOL
What a braindead, retarded comment. I bet I won't react like a crying little snowflake, like you pussies.

You are a freaking moron.
You're a cum guzzling dipshit, fuck off
lol!!! The difference is, that I don't have to make up shit, to insult you.
 

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Let the white supremacist collaborator Sacagawea's name be stricken from all texts, her visage removed wherever it may be found and all statues be thrown into the sea where sharks still swim the slave trader routes. So let be written. So let it be done.
 

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It's never enough for the SJW woke idiots.

City Council passes resolution for the removal of Lewis, Clark and Sacagawea statue

The Charlottesville City Council met at Carver Recreation Center Friday morning for a work session in collaboration with members of the Shoshone-Bannock tribe and Monacan Indian Nation to discuss the future of the statue that resides in West Main Street's major intersection and depicts Sacagawea cowering behind Meriwether Lewis and William Clark. The session included a presentation from City staff, statements from the Shoshone representatives and a two part discussion regarding the statue. Roughly 30 local residents were in attendance.

They kind of got a point....

Here's the statue in question.



The White guys standing tall while the woman of color is on her knees?
 
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"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
Alabamians can also choose what statues they want to display on public property.

Which is quite different from an American women's individual right to choose.
It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
The "mindset" that you can dick-tate from New York, what a city in Virginia can do with its own property?

Is there something about the phrase "its own property" that eludes you?

Suppose I tell you to plant elderberries in your front yard. I know it's none of my business but it's your logic, innit.

How 'bout this. Just sign over your USMB account to me for the rest of the weekend so I can, y'know, "fix" things.

Same thing.
Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I'm not native American nor a descendant of the subject. THEY have a problem with it.
Punt.
 
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So what? The people who live there want a different statue or something else there. Get over it.
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
You are comparing a public decoration with the deprivation of a constitutional right. You big government liberals are all the same.
Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
It isn't in the Constitution, thanks for proving my point by referencing a SC judgement.
 
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"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
Alabamians can also choose what statues they want to display on public property.

Which is quite different from an American women's individual right to choose.
It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
The "mindset" that you can dick-tate from New York, what a city in Virginia can do with its own property?

Is there something about the phrase "its own property" that eludes you?

Suppose I tell you to plant elderberries in your front yard. I know it's none of my business but it's your logic, innit.

How 'bout this. Just sign over your USMB account to me for the rest of the weekend so I can, y'know, "fix" things.

Same thing.
Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
 
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"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
Alabamians can also choose what statues they want to display on public property.

Which is quite different from an American women's individual right to choose.
It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
Whateveryousay Zippy.

Just trying to see the correlation between the rights of citizens to decide what statues to display in public and the rights of a women to choose to abort a pregnancy.

Is the mindset you wanted to point out one that wants to limits both rights?
No, the mindset that if something is not directly related to where you have jurisdiction or location, then you have no "right' to have a say about it.

i.e. dismissing my comment on the idea of removing a statue because it offends some SJW snowflakes because I don't live in the city in question.
Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
 
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It's never enough for the SJW woke idiots.

City Council passes resolution for the removal of Lewis, Clark and Sacagawea statue

The Charlottesville City Council met at Carver Recreation Center Friday morning for a work session in collaboration with members of the Shoshone-Bannock tribe and Monacan Indian Nation to discuss the future of the statue that resides in West Main Street's major intersection and depicts Sacagawea cowering behind Meriwether Lewis and William Clark. The session included a presentation from City staff, statements from the Shoshone representatives and a two part discussion regarding the statue. Roughly 30 local residents were in attendance.

They kind of got a point....

Here's the statue in question.



The White guys standing tall while the woman of color is on her knees?
Actually she's sitting on a rock. her knees are visible and not touching anything.
 

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So what? The people who live there want a different statue or something else there. Get over it.
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
You are comparing a public decoration with the deprivation of a constitutional right. You big government liberals are all the same.
Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
It isn't in the Constitution, thanks for proving my point by referencing a SC judgement.
Clearly it is or they wouldn't have judged as they did. They found it in the Constitution and I certainly put more faith in their interpretation than yours.
 
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"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
You are comparing a public decoration with the deprivation of a constitutional right. You big government liberals are all the same.
Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
It isn't in the Constitution, thanks for proving my point by referencing a SC judgement.
Clearly it is or they wouldn't have judged as they did. They found it in the Constitution and I certainly put more faith in their interpretation than yours.
By your logic They found separate but equal to be "in the constitution" as well under Plessey.
 

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You are comparing a public decoration with the deprivation of a constitutional right. You big government liberals are all the same.
Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
It isn't in the Constitution, thanks for proving my point by referencing a SC judgement.
Clearly it is or they wouldn't have judged as they did. They found it in the Constitution and I certainly put more faith in their interpretation than yours.
By your logic They found separate but equal to be "in the constitution" as well under Plessey.
This is a great example of what happens when someone shoots from the hip with their opinions, instead of formulating conclusions founded in actual facts and an understanding thereof.

Plessy did not find "separate but equal" to be something included in the constitution. They simply did not find it to be precluded; the 14th amendment demanded equality, but it did not demand inclusivity. The overturning of Plessy was a question of de facto circumstances in Brown showed that segregated schools are inherently unequal.
 
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Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
It isn't in the Constitution, thanks for proving my point by referencing a SC judgement.
Clearly it is or they wouldn't have judged as they did. They found it in the Constitution and I certainly put more faith in their interpretation than yours.
By your logic They found separate but equal to be "in the constitution" as well under Plessey.
This is a great example of what happens when someone shoots from the hip with their opinions, instead of formulating conclusions founded in actual facts and an understanding thereof.

Plessy did not find "separate but equal" to be something included in the constitution. They simply did not find it to be precluded; the 14th amendment demanded equality, but it did not demand inclusivity. The overturning of Plessy was a question of de facto circumstances in Brown showed that segregated schools are inherently unequal.
Nice tapdancing, but it still doesn't show the right to an abortion being in the Constitution. It is only a construct of one set of justices at one specific time, and can be easily overridden by another set of justices, same as Plessey was.

This whole thing is further made comical when people who support the figment or a right to an abortion via Roe then decide the 2nd amendment doesn't protect RKBA, which is actually explicit in the document.
 

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Alabamians can also choose what statues they want to display on public property.

Which is quite different from an American women's individual right to choose.
It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
The "mindset" that you can dick-tate from New York, what a city in Virginia can do with its own property?

Is there something about the phrase "its own property" that eludes you?

Suppose I tell you to plant elderberries in your front yard. I know it's none of my business but it's your logic, innit.

How 'bout this. Just sign over your USMB account to me for the rest of the weekend so I can, y'know, "fix" things.

Same thing.
Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


Alabamians can also choose what statues they want to display on public property.

Which is quite different from an American women's individual right to choose.
It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
Whateveryousay Zippy.

Just trying to see the correlation between the rights of citizens to decide what statues to display in public and the rights of a women to choose to abort a pregnancy.

Is the mindset you wanted to point out one that wants to limits both rights?
No, the mindset that if something is not directly related to where you have jurisdiction or location, then you have no "right' to have a say about it.

i.e. dismissing my comment on the idea of removing a statue because it offends some SJW snowflakes because I don't live in the city in question.
Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
 
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It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
The "mindset" that you can dick-tate from New York, what a city in Virginia can do with its own property?

Is there something about the phrase "its own property" that eludes you?

Suppose I tell you to plant elderberries in your front yard. I know it's none of my business but it's your logic, innit.

How 'bout this. Just sign over your USMB account to me for the rest of the weekend so I can, y'know, "fix" things.

Same thing.
Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


It's the mindset I am trying to point out, something your room temperature IQ fails to grasp.
Whateveryousay Zippy.

Just trying to see the correlation between the rights of citizens to decide what statues to display in public and the rights of a women to choose to abort a pregnancy.

Is the mindset you wanted to point out one that wants to limits both rights?
No, the mindset that if something is not directly related to where you have jurisdiction or location, then you have no "right' to have a say about it.

i.e. dismissing my comment on the idea of removing a statue because it offends some SJW snowflakes because I don't live in the city in question.
Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
 

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The "mindset" that you can dick-tate from New York, what a city in Virginia can do with its own property?

Is there something about the phrase "its own property" that eludes you?

Suppose I tell you to plant elderberries in your front yard. I know it's none of my business but it's your logic, innit.

How 'bout this. Just sign over your USMB account to me for the rest of the weekend so I can, y'know, "fix" things.

Same thing.
Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


Whateveryousay Zippy.

Just trying to see the correlation between the rights of citizens to decide what statues to display in public and the rights of a women to choose to abort a pregnancy.

Is the mindset you wanted to point out one that wants to limits both rights?
No, the mindset that if something is not directly related to where you have jurisdiction or location, then you have no "right' to have a say about it.

i.e. dismissing my comment on the idea of removing a statue because it offends some SJW snowflakes because I don't live in the city in question.
Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
What do you think the point IS? I'm looking at your title and the first verb I see is "votes".
 
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Who is dictating? I am calling their actions stupid, woke SJW bullshit stupid.

You are trying to change the topic, it isn't working.

Do you find the statue offensive or not?
I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


No, the mindset that if something is not directly related to where you have jurisdiction or location, then you have no "right' to have a say about it.

i.e. dismissing my comment on the idea of removing a statue because it offends some SJW snowflakes because I don't live in the city in question.
Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
What do you think the point IS? I'm looking at your title and the first verb I see is "votes".
The point is the overall stupidity of removing statues because some overly sensitive SJW wimps are offended by it.

Do you think the Statue is offensive or not?
 

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I haven't even looked at the statue. Know why? IT'S NOT MY CONCERN, that's why.
It's not my CITY, it's not my STATUE, it's not my STATE, it's not my BUSINESS. Whatever I would or would not think about it means NOTHING.
Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


Do you have wankers from Charlottesville trying to dick-tate what your town can do with its public squares?
Because if you do you have standing to tell them to FUCK OFF.

Now reverse that.
How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
What do you think the point IS? I'm looking at your title and the first verb I see is "votes".
The point is the overall stupidity of removing statues because some overly sensitive SJW wimps are offended by it.

Do you think the Statue is offensive or not?
I think we already did this, the other day.

I don't have standing to judge whether it's 'offensive'. Nor do you. The city makes that call. Your title says they voted on it. Surely in that vote there was discussion about it but I don't make it a habit to sit in on city council meetings three hundred miles away to listen in on something that doesn't concern me in the first place.

By the way if that's the issue, why is the thread in "Politics"?
 

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So what? The people who live there want a different statue or something else there. Get over it.
"So what the people in Alabama want to ban abortion. Get over it"
You are comparing a public decoration with the deprivation of a constitutional right. You big government liberals are all the same.
Where in the Constitution is the right to Abortion?
Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia

In January 1973, the Supreme Court issued a 7–2 decision holding that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
You're welcome....
The Supreme Court didn't find a right to an abortion in the Constitution. They fashioned such a right out of existing rights. Admitting there was no such right, the Court called these Penumbral Rights.

Penumbra (law) - Wikipedia
 
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Then why do you continuously comment on my thread about it?

Either have an opinion on the topic at hand, or piss off.
I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


How about having a comment on the actual topic of this thread?

Try it.
I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
What do you think the point IS? I'm looking at your title and the first verb I see is "votes".
The point is the overall stupidity of removing statues because some overly sensitive SJW wimps are offended by it.

Do you think the Statue is offensive or not?
I think we already did this, the other day.

I don't have standing to judge whether it's 'offensive'. Nor do you. The city makes that call. Your title says they voted on it. Surely in that vote there was discussion about it but I don't make it a habit to sit in on city council meetings three hundred miles away to listen in on something that doesn't concern me in the first place.

By the way if that's the issue, why is the thread in "Politics"?
Once again you punt.
 

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I just HANDED you one. You fumbled it.

Now if you can't handle that POV, maybe it's time to re-assess your own.


I stand corrected --- I just handed you TWO.
You aren't arguing the point, you are arguing about being qualified to argue about the point.

More deflection.
What do you think the point IS? I'm looking at your title and the first verb I see is "votes".
The point is the overall stupidity of removing statues because some overly sensitive SJW wimps are offended by it.

Do you think the Statue is offensive or not?
I think we already did this, the other day.

I don't have standing to judge whether it's 'offensive'. Nor do you. The city makes that call. Your title says they voted on it. Surely in that vote there was discussion about it but I don't make it a habit to sit in on city council meetings three hundred miles away to listen in on something that doesn't concern me in the first place.

By the way if that's the issue, why is the thread in "Politics"?
Once again you punt.
Once again you fumble.

HOW is what Charlottesville does with its public space any of my business? Just explain that.

Far as I know Charlottesville doesn't come down here dictating what we can do with our public spaces. Do they do that where you live?
 

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