CIC Spur: Made it Easier for Mentally Ill People To Buy Guns, Blames Mental Issues for FL. Shooting

[Baz Ares]

Ask the Governor and State Legislature to pass laws to make you feel safe and let see how well those laws work...

Thang I want done are passable in a state, the issue would be guns coming in from out of state.

I want all Semi-Auto guns firing pins/bolts locked up at gun ranges. They stay on the range.
The Gun Nutters can masturbate on the assault weapons in their bedrooms
at home. Without those parts. If we are invaded by an army they can then run down to the
shooting range and get these firing pins/bolts and try to fight the drones.

For hunting and home /self-defense, you need no more than a six-shooter, shotgun
or single shot bolt action rifle.

Anyone heard firing or having assault-style firing pin/ bolt gets 10 years in jail time min.
per parts Offer rewards to all for turning in these Gun Nutters. They can be gangsters to Home Moms.
All peoples under 26 involved in shootings, the parents pay bills as well and go to jail etc. If they are
turning in their spawned gun nutters, they get a reward.. This makes the firing pins/bolts for
assault guns really too hot to be involved with, off the shooting ranges.
And if they travel to other shooting ranges they get rental/loaner firing pins/bolts to
their spew leads on that range etc...

 

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ Libs would take that bill and expand it to eventually take away all guns.
You voted GOP? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You deny climate change? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You support tax cuts? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You're Right to Life? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
and so on and so on and so on.....

DID THE STRAW MAN TELL YOU THAT?

/——- / Have Libs called for jailing Climate Deniers? Have they taken guns away from returning vets ? We’ll have they punk?

 

[Dirk the Daring]

/----/ Libs would take that bill and expand it to eventually take away all guns.
You voted GOP? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You deny climate change? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You support tax cuts? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You're Right to Life? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
and so on and so on and so on.....

DID THE STRAW MAN TELL YOU THAT?

/——- / Have Libs called for jailing Climate Deniers? We’ll have they punk?

Yes, they have.

Should Climate Change Deniers Be Prosecuted?

Bill Nye open to criminal charges, jail time for climate-change dissenters

Climate change activists want punishment for skeptics

 

[HaShev]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

So you admittingly advocate taking guns away from Schumer, Schiff, Pelosi, Perez,
Maxine Waters and the party of snowflakes and Play-doh?

 

[Baz Ares]

 

[protectionist]

We've had 18 Mass Shootings and others types.
How long after this one is it okay to speak about it politically?
Somewhere within 7 days before the next Mass Shooting in done, is/ would be appropriate?

FYI:
The vital lesson from Australia’s last mass shooting that Trump’s Florida speech missed


The lower body counts states have more gun regulations>>

Where does the number >> 18 mass shootings come from ?

 

[protectionist]

White House refused to release photo of Trump signing bill overturning Obama gun rule: report

4 Guns Bills Fail in Senate; Democrats Trying to Blame Republicans

 

[protectionist]

So TRUE!

https://www.theroot.com/the-nra-is-..._source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

NRA supported gun control bills to stop mentally ill people from buying guns. Find another fall guy.

 

[Baz Ares]

 

[Baz Ares]

So TRUE!

https://www.theroot.com/the-nra-is-..._source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

NRA supported gun control bills to stop mentally ill people from buying guns. Find another fall guy.

The New 2017 law signed by the Great Douche to allow mentally sick Gun Nutters have/get guns, was sponsored by the NRA!

 

[protectionist]

The New 2017 law signed by the Great Douche to allow mentally sick Gun Nutters have/get guns, was sponsored by the NRA!

Although I'm leaving the library right now and I won't see your answer until some time next week.

 

[Cellblock2429]

So TRUE!

https://www.theroot.com/the-nra-is-..._source=theroot_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

NRA supported gun control bills to stop mentally ill people from buying guns. Find another fall guy.

The New 2017 law signed by the Great Douche to allow mentally sick Gun Nutters have/get guns, was sponsored by the NRA!

/—-/ ahhh STFU gun grabber

 

[hjmick]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

Liar.

I don't like Trump, but I like liars even less (so I dislike Trump twice as much). You may as well blame the ACLU, the American Association of People Disabilities, the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, the Disability Law Center of Alaska, the National Alliance on Mental Illness, the National Association of County Behavioral Health and Developmental Disability Directors, the National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy, the National Association for Rural Mental Health, the National Council on Disability, the National Council of Independent Living, the National Coalition of Mental Health Recovery, the National Disability Leadership Alliance, the National Disability Rights Network, the New York Association of Psychiatric Rehabilitation Services, and Safari Club International along with the NRA because they all actively supported the rule change, hell, they all thought the resolution should have killed when originally voted upon. The NRA, as far as I know, stood by passively, not advocating loudly one way or the other.

The rule would have allowed bureaucrats in one of our federal agencies to prevent American citizens from exercising one of their constitutional rights. Based on the highly questionable idea that you are incapable of managing your own finances thus making you a “mental defective.”

In the words of the American Association of People with Disabilities:

"This rule would require the Social Security Administration to forward the names of all Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefit recipients who use a representative payee to help manage their benefits due to a mental impairment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)."

Feel free to read the letter the ACLU sent to members of Congress:

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ACLU.pdf

From the National Council on Disability:

"NCD is a nonpartisan, independent federal agency with no stated position with respect to gun-ownership or gun-control other than our long-held position that restrictions on gun possession or ownership based on psychiatric or intellectual disability must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. Additionally, it is critically important that any restriction on gun possession or ownership on this basis is imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. NCD believes that SSA’s final rule falls far short of meeting these criteria."

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/NCD.pdf

Quoting my source material:

"There were a host of reasons to object to this measure. On separation-of-powers grounds, the prospect of the Social Security Administration playing judge, jury, and executioner is flatly intolerable. On due process grounds, there was nothing to recommend the measure (as the ACLU made abundantly clear in its opposition letter). On statutory grounds, it seems clear that the SSA was acting ultra vires (beyond the powers)."

No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Ill


So, none of the laws or rules governing gun ownership by the mentally ill have or were changed. What was changed was the ability of one government agency to be the sole arbiter of whether or not your ability to balance your check book should be the basis upon which you are denied one of your Constitutional Rights.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

Liar.

I don't like Trump, but I like liars even less (so I dislike Trump twice as much). You may as well call him an "aggressive slave of the ACLU, the American Association of People with Disabilities, the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, the Disability Law Center of Alaska, the National Alliance on Mental Illness, the National Association of County Behavioral Health and Developmental Disability Directors, the National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy, the National Association for Rural Mental Health, the National Council on Disability, the National Council of Independent Living, the National Coalition of Mental Health Recovery, the National Disability Leadership Alliance, the National Disability Rights Network, the New York Association of Psychiatric Rehabilitation Services, and Safari Club International" because they all supported the rule change, hell, they all thought the resolution should have killed when originally voted upon.

The rule would have allowed bureaucrats in one of our federal agencies to prevent American citizens from exercising one of their constitutional rights. Based on the highly questionable idea that you are incapable of managing your own finances thus making you a “mental defective.”

In the words of the American Association of People with Disabilities:

"This rule would require the Social Security Administration to forward the names of all Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefit recipients who use a representative payee to help manage their benefits due to a mental impairment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)."

Feel free to read the letter the ACLU sent to members of Congress:

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ACLU.pdf

From the National Council on Disability:

"NCD is a nonpartisan, independent federal agency with no stated position with respect to gun-ownership or gun-control other than our long-held position that restrictions on gun possession or ownership based on psychiatric or intellectual disability must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. Additionally, it is critically important that any restriction on gun possession or ownership on this basis is imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. NCD believes that SSA’s final rule falls far short of meeting these criteria."

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/NCD.pdf

Quoting my source material:

"There were a host of reasons to object to this measure. On separation-of-powers grounds, the prospect of the Social Security Administration playing judge, jury, and executioner is flatly intolerable. On due process grounds, there was nothing to recommend the measure (as the ACLU made abundantly clear in its opposition letter). On statutory grounds, it seems clear that the SSA was acting ultra vires (beyond the powers)."

No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Ill


So, none of the laws or rules governing gun ownership by the mentally ill have or were changed. What was changed was the ability of one government agency to be the sole arbiter of whether or not your ability to balance your check book should be the basis upon which you are denied one of your Constitutional Rights.

/——/ If Cruz gets the death penalty will the ACLU file motions to block it?

 

[miketx]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

That's good to know.

 

[hjmick]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

Liar.

I don't like Trump, but I like liars even less (so I dislike Trump twice as much). You may as well call him an "aggressive slave of the ACLU, the American Association of People with Disabilities, the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities, the Disability Law Center of Alaska, the National Alliance on Mental Illness, the National Association of County Behavioral Health and Developmental Disability Directors, the National Association for Rights Protection and Advocacy, the National Association for Rural Mental Health, the National Council on Disability, the National Council of Independent Living, the National Coalition of Mental Health Recovery, the National Disability Leadership Alliance, the National Disability Rights Network, the New York Association of Psychiatric Rehabilitation Services, and Safari Club International" because they all supported the rule change, hell, they all thought the resolution should have killed when originally voted upon.

The rule would have allowed bureaucrats in one of our federal agencies to prevent American citizens from exercising one of their constitutional rights. Based on the highly questionable idea that you are incapable of managing your own finances thus making you a “mental defective.”

In the words of the American Association of People with Disabilities:

"This rule would require the Social Security Administration to forward the names of all Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefit recipients who use a representative payee to help manage their benefits due to a mental impairment to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)."

Feel free to read the letter the ACLU sent to members of Congress:

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ACLU.pdf

From the National Council on Disability:

"NCD is a nonpartisan, independent federal agency with no stated position with respect to gun-ownership or gun-control other than our long-held position that restrictions on gun possession or ownership based on psychiatric or intellectual disability must be based on a verifiable concern as to whether the individual poses a heightened risk of danger to themselves or others if they are in possession of a weapon. Additionally, it is critically important that any restriction on gun possession or ownership on this basis is imposed only after the individual has been afforded due process and given an opportunity to respond to allegations that they are not able to safely possess or own a firearm due to his or her disability. NCD believes that SSA’s final rule falls far short of meeting these criteria."

https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/NCD.pdf

Quoting my source material:

"There were a host of reasons to object to this measure. On separation-of-powers grounds, the prospect of the Social Security Administration playing judge, jury, and executioner is flatly intolerable. On due process grounds, there was nothing to recommend the measure (as the ACLU made abundantly clear in its opposition letter). On statutory grounds, it seems clear that the SSA was acting ultra vires (beyond the powers)."

No, the GOP Did Not Just Repeal the Background Check System or Give Guns to the Mentally Ill


So, none of the laws or rules governing gun ownership by the mentally ill have or were changed. What was changed was the ability of one government agency to be the sole arbiter of whether or not your ability to balance your check book should be the basis upon which you are denied one of your Constitutional Rights.

/——/ If Cruz gets the death penalty will the ACLU file motions to block it?

Don't know, don't care. I have mixed feelings regarding the death penalty.

 

[Baz Ares]

Really?
Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant

 

[Cellblock2429]

Really?
Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant

/——-/ The NRA isn’t responsible for the deranged shooters action anymore than Chevrolet is responsible for drunk drivers who kill others. Maybe the NRA should start profiling Hispanics.

 

[RealDave]

Trump on Thursday suggested that there were “so many signs” that the suspected shooter in the deadly shooting at a Parkland, Florida high school that killed at least 17 people Wednesday afternoon was “mentally disturbed.”

Almost exactly a year ago, Trump signed a law to revoke an Obama-era gun regulation that made it more difficult for those with mental illnesses to acquire guns. Media was not allowed to attend the bill signing event.

Trump, who made it easier for mentally ill people to buy guns, blames mental health issues for Florida shooting

So the Mentally Sick NRA Gun Nutters FULLY sponsor this bill and gets a new law passed that the Great Douche signs allowing
the Mentally Sick Gun Nutters in the head peoples can buy guns. Both Blame the peoples mentally sick in the head state for the shooting and tell us their hands are clean as they made sure, these Mentally Sick Gun Nutters can get these gins.

btw: As we know the NRA Gun Provide shooter got these guns legally, and the FBI did check him out. Both the 2nd Anal and the New Law making sure the Mentally ill can have and keep guns we used well killing 17 on Valentine's Day.

MAGA.. More unregulated access to Guns in America for all the NRA Mentally Sick Gun Nutters..

/----/ Libs would take that bill and expand it to eventually take away all guns.
You voted GOP? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You deny climate change? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You support tax cuts? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
You're Right to Life? You're mentally ill, no guns for you.
and so on and so on and so on.....

That;s it. The slippery slope argument.

We can' stop these crazy people from buying guns because next they will ban someone else.

If you voted for Trump, you voted for a liar, fraud, business cheat, adulterer, women abusing, pussy grabbing, accused child rapist, & total asshole. You can call it being smart but everyone else knows it shows you to be stupid.

You deny climate change? Yes that makes you dumber than shit.

You support borrowing money to give Wealthy people a tax cut, then yes, you are stupid.

You can believe that abortion is wrong and you support handing assault rifles to school shooters, then you are stupid.

Unfortunately, there is not an intelligence test to buy guns. But thanks for the suggestion.

 

[RealDave]

Really?
Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant Florida shooting suspect took part in training program that received NRA grant

/——-/ The NRA isn’t responsible for the deranged shooters action anymore than Chevrolet is responsible for drunk drivers who kill others. Maybe the NRA should start profiling Hispanics.

Only id Chevy is fighting against DUI laws.