CIA Concludes Russia Interfered In Election To Help Trump Win

[Divine Wind]

so all we know for sure is that if there was indeed a hack it was to private citizens. hitlery's server was not government either.

Everyone will see you dance'n'jive and backpedal from your "private citizens" comment when the RNC emails are revealed.

FWIW, you (I suspect) and I are "private citizens". Elected officials, be they D's, R's, whatever, are government officials. While you might believe that Bill Clinton's blowjobs was a matter between "private citizens", I do not since he was acting in the capacity of a government official and, therefore it affected our government. You are free to believe that the sextings of "Carlos Danger" were those of a private citizen, again, I disagree since he was a government official and his actions, like Slick Willie's, affected our government.

Those on this forum who have held a security clearance know that "private citizen" things like debt, adultery, homosexuality (used to be) and other such things often disqualifies for a clearance since they could be used to blackmail someone with access to classified material. Obviously a foreign actor hacking into the email of a government official, regardless if the topics discussed were government-related or not, could potentially be used for blackmail.

Example, if one of Hillary's "private citizen" emails included one about her praising Huma's finger-banging and carpet-munching skills, would that be a legitimate political topic or just a "private citizen" matter?

 

[jc456]

so all we know for sure is that if there was indeed a hack it was to private citizens. hitlery's server was not government either.

Everyone will see you dance'n'jive and backpedal from your "private citizens" comment when the RNC emails are revealed.

FWIW, you (suspect) and I are "private citizens". Elected officials, be they D's, R's, whatever, are government officials. While you might believe that Bill Clinton's blowjobs was a matter between "private citizens", I do not since he was acting in the capacity of a government official and, therefore it affected our government. You are free to believe that the sextings of "Carlos Danger" were those of a private citizen, again, I disagree since he was a government official and his actions, like Slick Willie's, affected our government.

Those on this forum who have held a security clearance know that "private citizen" thinks like debt, adultery, homosexuality (used to be) and other such things were often disqualifies for a clearance since they could be used to blackmail someone with access to classified material. Obviously a foreign actor hacking into the email of a government official, regardless if the topics discussed were government-related or not, could potentially be used for blackmail.

Example, if one of Hillary's "private citizen" emails included one about her praising Huma's finger-banging and carpet-munching skills, would that be a legitimate political topic or just a "private citizen" matter?

RNC emails are private as well. They aren't a government agency or public. come on man, stop trying to make something up. I give two shits if the RNC was hacked. No evidence yet though. so............

 

[jc456]

so all we know for sure is that if there was indeed a hack it was to private citizens. hitlery's server was not government either.

Everyone will see you dance'n'jive and backpedal from your "private citizens" comment when the RNC emails are revealed.

FWIW, you (I suspect) and I are "private citizens". Elected officials, be they D's, R's, whatever, are government officials. While you might believe that Bill Clinton's blowjobs was a matter between "private citizens", I do not since he was acting in the capacity of a government official and, therefore it affected our government. You are free to believe that the sextings of "Carlos Danger" were those of a private citizen, again, I disagree since he was a government official and his actions, like Slick Willie's, affected our government.

Those on this forum who have held a security clearance know that "private citizen" thinks like debt, adultery, homosexuality (used to be) and other such things were often disqualifies for a clearance since they could be used to blackmail someone with access to classified material. Obviously a foreign actor hacking into the email of a government official, regardless if the topics discussed were government-related or not, could potentially be used for blackmail.

Example, if one of Hillary's "private citizen" emails included one about her praising Huma's finger-banging and carpet-munching skills, would that be a legitimate political topic or just a "private citizen" matter?

nothing that would change my opinion of hitlery at all. she is still a criminal and murderer. And Huma is a private citizen. she does not get clearance. So yeah, private to private. If it was done on government property, something different though.

 

[Divine Wind]

yes I stand by my comment. post up the quote. one where I made that declaration. Again, I stated the FBI did not agree with the CIA. Then you asked that I supply a link, I did.

Are you denying you posted ""? If I post a link to it, what's in it for me? Proving you're a liar and/or an idiot? Sorry, not good enough. How about you pay $25 into my "Gold Supporting Member" account if I provide the link to your own post and I'll do the same for you if that post doesn't exist. Deal?

 

[jc456]

yes I stand by my comment. post up the quote. one where I made that declaration. Again, I stated the FBI did not agree with the CIA. Then you asked that I supply a link, I did.

Are you denying you posted ""? If I post a link to it, what's in it for me? Proving you're a liar and/or an idiot? Sorry, not good enough. How about you pay $25 into my "Gold Supporting Member" account if I provide the link to your own post and I'll do the same for you if that post doesn't exist. Deal?

nope. you can either post it or not, I give two shits.

 

[Divine Wind]

....And Huma is a private citizen. she does not get clearance. So yeah, private to private. If it was done on government property, something different though.

Wow. I'm guessing after a lifetime of being wrong, you're just used to it and don't care anymore? Not only did Huma have a clearance, but it was a TS clearance.

Roger Stone: How Did Clinton Aide Huma Abedin Get Security Clearance, 'Given Very Clear Ties to a Radical Offshoot of Islam?'
“Why is Huma’s background important? It’s very simple: we know, since she went through all of Hillary’s email, to determine what we should see and what we should not, that she has therefore had access to Top Secret classified documents. How did this woman ever get a security clearance, given her very clear ties to a radical offshoot of Islam?” Stone asked.

http://counterjihad.com/breaking-fbi-notes-reveal-security-concerns-huma-abedin
FBI interview notes indicate that Abedin, a Pakistani-American Muslim whose family has deep ties to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the radical Muslim Brotherhood, was granted Top Secret security clearance for the first time in 2009, when Clinton named her deputy chief of staff for operations. Abedin said she “did not remember” being read into any Special Access Programs (SAPs) or compartment.

Huma Abedin’s April warning from the FBI | New York Post
FBI agents in April confronted Huma Abedin with an email she received in 2010 warning her that her Yahoo email account — where she’d “routinely” stored State Department messages, including ones containing classified information — might have been compromised. The revelation is contained in a summary of the FBI’s interview with Abedin, conducted on April 5.

Abedin told agents “she was not sure that her email account had ever been compromised,” according to notes of the interview, conducted as part of the FBI’s investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unsecured and unauthorized home email server. Abedin served as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and is currently vice chair of her presidential campaign.

The answer wasn’t comforting to agents who feared classified government material had been hacked. Yahoo is notoriously vulnerable to hacking. In 2014, for example, a half-billion Yahoo accounts had been hacked by an unidentified “state-sponsored actor” in the biggest data breach in history.

 

[jc456]

....And Huma is a private citizen. she does not get clearance. So yeah, private to private. If it was done on government property, something different though.

Wow. I'm guessing after a lifetime of being wrong, you're just used to it and don't care anymore?

Roger Stone: How Did Clinton Aide Huma Abedin Get Security Clearance, 'Given Very Clear Ties to a Radical Offshoot of Islam?'
“Why is Huma’s background important? It’s very simple: we know, since she went through all of Hillary’s email, to determine what we should see and what we should not, that she has therefore had access to Top Secret classified documents. How did this woman ever get a security clearance, given her very clear ties to a radical offshoot of Islam?” Stone asked.

http://counterjihad.com/breaking-fbi-notes-reveal-security-concerns-huma-abedin
FBI interview notes indicate that Abedin, a Pakistani-American Muslim whose family has deep ties to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the radical Muslim Brotherhood, was granted Top Secret security clearance for the first time in 2009, when Clinton named her deputy chief of staff for operations. Abedin said she “did not remember” being read into any Special Access Programs (SAPs) or compartment.

Huma Abedin’s April warning from the FBI | New York Post
FBI agents in April confronted Huma Abedin with an email she received in 2010 warning her that her Yahoo email account — where she’d “routinely” stored State Department messages, including ones containing classified information — might have been compromised. The revelation is contained in a summary of the FBI’s interview with Abedin, conducted on April 5.

Abedin told agents “she was not sure that her email account had ever been compromised,” according to notes of the interview, conducted as part of the FBI’s investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unsecured and unauthorized home email server. Abedin served as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and is currently vice chair of her presidential campaign.

The answer wasn’t comforting to agents who feared classified government material had been hacked. Yahoo is notoriously vulnerable to hacking. In 2014, for example, a half-billion Yahoo accounts had been hacked by an unidentified “state-sponsored actor” in the biggest data breach in history.

well son, I can get security clearance, doesn't mean I'm not a private citizen. She can't see classified documents, you know that right? she isn't a government official right? wow, you keep stretching stretch!!!!!

BTW, this is illegal:

"FBI agents in April confronted Huma Abedin with an email she received in 2010 warning her that her Yahoo email account — where she’d “routinely” stored State Department messages, including ones containing classified information — might have been compromised. The revelation is contained in a summary of the FBI’s interview with Abedin, conducted on April 5."

she doesn't have clearance to see classified material and it's classified material on a private server. doh!!!!!

 

[Divine Wind]

nope. you can either post it or not, I give two shits.

Yet you posted two shits asking for it. Why? Is it because you realized you lied and really did make that post?**

I never said that dude. post up the post number I made that statement. Here let me correct you, I said they didn't agree with the CIA. hmmmmmmm remember that one? And so far, it stands that way and in fact, your own wikipedia post states the DNC emails were 'leaked', not hacked. DOH

yes I stand by my comment. post up the quote. one where I made that declaration. Again, I stated the FBI did not agree with the CIA. Then you asked that I supply a link, I did.

Spoiler: **

But the FBI said the servers weren't hacked. So, how did the CIA have anything?

 

[Divine Wind]

well son, I can get security clearance.....

$25 says you can't.

 

[OnePercenter]

Here's a wonderful article about Russia's influence.

Everything You Need to Know About Steve Bannon, Breitbart, & Russia

Real Americans don't read Breitbart.

 

[jc456]

well son, I can get security clearance.....

$25 says you can't.

you sure like to bet a lot. Me, naw. See I work with the fed gov and need clearance, but I don't have to prove it to you. The server we track tickets on one has to get clearance, there are many forms of clearance, you should actually read up on them. Get on base to do work on equipment and all that.

 

[Divine Wind]

you sure like to bet a lot.....

99% of people don't accept because money talks and bullshit walks. Offering a bet is my way demonstrating that talk is cheap, but putting up pocket change to the forum is a "Twofer"; the forum gains and I gain.

Obviously, as initially stated, most people just like to blab and don't want to put a measly $25 on the line. My guess is because most of them know they are wrong, know they could easily be wrong or simply can't afford it.

 

[Lewdog]

you sure like to bet a lot.....

99% of people don't accept because money talks and bullshit walks. Offering a bet is my way demonstrating that talk is cheap, but putting up pocket change to the forum is a "Twofer"; the forum gains and I gain.

Obviously, as initially stated, most people just like to blab and don't want to put a measly $25 on the line. My guess is because most of them know they are wrong, know they could easily be wrong or simply can't afford it.

Hell, I've had two people that wouldn't even make an avatar bet.

 

[Divine Wind]

....there are many forms of clearance, you should actually read up on them. Get on base to do work on equipment and all that.

I've held up to a TS for a one-year billet in the Marine Corps, but held a Secret for about a decade while in the Fleet. That was reduced to a Confidential (Need to know rules) when I was in a training position on both active duty and in the Reserves until retirement. So, yes, I know a little bit about background checks and security clearances.

 

[Divine Wind]

Hell, I've had two people that wouldn't even make an avatar bet.

Exactly. I always get suspicious when people want to blab, but not be held accountable for their blabbing.

OTOH, there's nothing wrong with hedging bets or negotiating the particulars of a bet.

 

[Lewdog]

Hell, I've had two people that wouldn't even make an avatar bet.

Exactly. I always get suspicious when people want to blab, but not be held accountable for their blabbing.

OTOH, there's nothing wrong with hedging bets or negotiating the particulars of a bet.

I think a huge problem here is, people don't understand just how difficult to get a Top Secret clearance, and what goes on to get one.

 

[Divine Wind]

I think a huge problem here is, people don't understand just how difficult to get a Top Secret clearance, and what goes on to get one.

Agreed. Probably because most were never in the military or government jobs requiring a clearance.

OTOH, according my previously posted Huma links, it's easy if you work for Hillary Clinton.

 

[jc456]

you sure like to bet a lot.....

99% of people don't accept because money talks and bullshit walks. Offering a bet is my way demonstrating that talk is cheap, but putting up pocket change to the forum is a "Twofer"; the forum gains and I gain.

Obviously, as initially stated, most people just like to blab and don't want to put a measly $25 on the line. My guess is because most of them know they are wrong, know they could easily be wrong or simply can't afford it.

Or not! Some people don't gamble. I chose mine when it's logical. No need on here now

 

[Divine Wind]

Or not! Some people don't gamble. I chose mine when it's logical. No need on here now

$25 says you're full of shit. ROFL

Okay, I'll meet you halfway; some people shouldn't gamble.

 

[Lewdog]

Or not! Some people don't gamble. I chose mine when it's logical. No need on here now

$25 says you're full of shit. ROFL

Okay, I'll meet you halfway; some people shouldn't gamble.

You mean people that know they will lose the bet shouldn't gamble.