Christmas Massacre: 160 Nigerians Killed by Jihadists in Strong Christian Community

[Moonglow]

"Religion of peace."

Send them a ham.

 

[Moonglow]

So?
Christians have history towards persecuting every other religion and especially those whom they termed Heathens.

Especially the Jews...Those Christians have really disliked them folks.

 

[Kruska]

Especially the Jews...Those Christians have really disliked them folks.

They surely disliked them a "lot" - but in regards to how many heathens were killed in the faith of e.g. Christianity pales, renders those Jewish figures/death to be an insignificant number.

 

[JGalt]

So?
Christians have history towards persecuting every other religion and especially those whom they termed Heathens.

 

[Kruska]

The Encyclopedia of Wars

Of all the 1,763 documented wars, only 123 were religious wars. If you care to buy/read the book, it will describe each war, casualties etc..

The Encyclopedia didn't set out to determine how many were religious wars, scrutiny by others revealed this fact. It seems to piss the non-religious off big style.

Your source is utterly meaning less - if you would have read it, you would know that he only nitpicks towards the given figure of 123 - stating that his count only shows 121.
Checking the internet reveals, that only a single source/book "dipped" into this topic, aka this "The Encyclopedia of Wars". And as you correctly state yourself - the book wasn't intended to factually document wars as having been solely due to Religion, or whatever other reason.

Furthermore your source - also does not document the CRITERIA used to define a war to be Religious or whatever. It also does not account as to what "wars" (aka numbers of wars) constitute. Is WW2 - one war? or is it separated/accounted for as e.g. 26 different wars?
Is the conquest of e.g. the Aztec Empire, one war? or are all wars/battles that occurred in those 100 years, documented for each individual war/battle?

The Israelite's conquest of other peoples lands and cities wasn't a single war, it spreads through almost 500 years of dozens of wars and battles. And taking Zionism/Judaism into account - then every single one of them was due to Religion - right up to today.

On top of that - fervent Religious dudes, especially Christians on USMB, constantly declare that atheists posses no morals - since the latter term supposedly derives entirely from God - aka beheld solely by a respective religion. If so, then the entire moral value of every single non-atheist is based solely onto his/her religious believe aka faith. The magic word is therefore religious FAITH - that dictates and interprets/justifies MORAL.

George Carlin once said to rapturous applause, “More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.”
This is what factually "pissed off" those bigot Christians - since George Carlin factually pointed out a religious FAITH, that defines morals - and thus religious indoctrinated moral standards, that are being used and manipulated to serve/ justify the respective interests of those "religious" people.

Wars are caused by a conflict of interest, and that "interest" is guided and justified via religious, philosophical, and ideological indoctrination towards MORALS).
And philosophical and idiological doctrines in turn derive out of religious Faith and thus set the respective religious propagated and defined Morals.
Right up to the Nazis - killing a Jew is necessary, (not just due to a racial idiology) but it is also a religious obligation.

And the Jews themselves? their entire selfwritten book justifies and even demands war onto those who posess a different faith and don't want to hand over their lands and posessions (Since their God supposedly had given it solley to them) - or refuse to adopt and/or live their lives according to Judaism.

What was stated on the Belt-buckle of the Imperial German Army, that of the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht? “Gott mit uns” (“God is with us”), and it was also the rallying cry during WWI.
What was stated on the British Army e.g. Victorian Belt-buckle? "Dieu et mon droit" (God and my right).

What does every bigot US president obligatory state upon sending in the Marines and cruise missiles? God Bless, and God bless America.

After 9/11 shouldn't all these Christian Americans have held the other cheek to Osama bin Laden as well? Instead they went to Iraq and Afgahnistan KILLING people. Though shalt not Kill, right? However I do recall loads of religious Americans proclaiming, Muslims are killing Christians as such they need to be killed as well, and therfore a war against them is justified.

And present Gaza? All Palestinians support Hamas - Hamas is hiding behind them - they are all Muslims and Muslims are all terrorists - so kill them all. Only Jews are loving and peaceful people and never did anything wrong. A complete perversion of facts, solely invented and upheld via respective religious believes and faith - thus justifying those Morals that are needed to excuse, and even call for the mudering of people.

So was it really a war against terrorism in e.g. Afgahnistan? or a war against those who pose a threat towards interests beheld by Christians, resulting out of their religious belief - FAITH? aka a religious war. Obviously the latter - since the entire policy in e.g. Afganistan ( I was there) was to disempower Islamic conservatives, aka the Taliban in order to introduce-impose Western (Christian) Moral values onto the Afgahn society.

The exact same thing, the USSR undertook in the 80'ies - introducing-imposing a different Moral standard onto a Muslim society. And where do Morals derive from, who sets the standards? right RELIGION, aka a respective FAITH. Where is the proof that e.g. Communists do not believe in a God? that they do not adhere to e.g. Taoism and Buddist believes? in e.g. todays and also during Mao's China.

BTW - the exact same also applies to the CPC policy in Xijiang - imposing CPC moral values onto Muslims. Which those bigot Christian Europeans and Americans declare to be in violation of human rights. (what human rights? - solely those defined by Christian Faith and MORALS?).

Where did Marx ever state "God does not exist"? all he stated was; Religion is an Opiate for the people. Aka RELIGION is used to manipulate and keep people in line - with their respective Masters interests.

Theism, belief in a God and life after death, forms an essential element in the ideological distortion and justification of social reality in capitalist society; it comforts the exploited people with promises of eternal happiness after death. The social organization of the belief, the church, is an instrument of the ruling class designed to keep the people under control.
As such its a "criticism of religion" and not a denial towards a God

Lenin was far more precise - rejecting the idea of a God-building religion. As such he never stated "there is no God" but rejected religions that create a God and therefore his "supposed" teachings/commands, freely invented, to fit a respective agenda. Thus religious people of whatever faith, basing their personal actions e.g. wars, onto a religious based Moral excuse.

In conclusion - every single war is based and finds it's roots in religion, and is therefore fought in the name of God. - with or without mentioning "God"

Nuff said - case closed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Your source is utterly meaning less - if you would have read it, you would know that he only nitpicks towards the given figure of 123 - stating that his count only shows 121.
Checking the internet reveals, that only a single source/book "dipped" into this topic, aka this "The Encyclopedia of Wars". And as you correctly state yourself - the book wasn't intended to factually document wars as having been solely due to Religion, or whatever other reason.

Furthermore your source - also does not document the CRITERIA used to define a war to be Religious or whatever. It also does not account as to what "wars" (aka numbers of wars) constitute. Is WW2 - one war? or is it separated/accounted for as e.g. 26 different wars?
Is the conquest of e.g. the Aztec Empire, one war? or are all wars/battles that occurred in those 100 years, documented for each individual war/battle?

The Israelite's conquest of other peoples lands and cities wasn't a single war, it spreads through almost 500 years of dozens of wars and battles. And taking Zionism/Judaism into account - then every single one of them was due to Religion - right up to today.

On top of that - fervent Religious dudes, especially Christians on USMB, constantly declare that atheists posses no morals - since the latter term supposedly derives entirely from God - aka beheld solely by a respective religion. If so, then the entire moral value of every single non-atheist is based solely onto his/her religious believe aka faith. The magic word is therefore religious FAITH - that dictates and interprets/justifies MORAL.

George Carlin once said to rapturous applause, “More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.”
This is what factually "pissed off" those bigot Christians - since George Carlin factually pointed out a religious FAITH, that defines morals - and thus religious indoctrinated moral standards, that are being used and manipulated to serve/ justify the respective interests of those "religious" people.

Wars are caused by a conflict of interest, and that "interest" is guided and justified via religious, philosophical, and ideological indoctrination towards MORALS).
And philosophical and idiological doctrines in turn derive out of religious Faith and thus set the respective religious propagated and defined Morals.
Right up to the Nazis - killing a Jew is necessary, (not just due to a racial idiology) but it is also a religious obligation.

And the Jews themselves? their entire selfwritten book justifies and even demands war onto those who posess a different faith and don't want to hand over their lands and posessions (Since their God supposedly had given it solley to them) - or refuse to adopt and/or live their lives according to Judaism.

What was stated on the Belt-buckle of the Imperial German Army, that of the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht? “Gott mit uns” (“God is with us”), and it was also the rallying cry during WWI.
What was stated on the British Army e.g. Victorian Belt-buckle? "Dieu et mon droit" (God and my right).

What does every bigot US president obligatory state upon sending in the Marines and cruise missiles? God Bless, and God bless America.

After 9/11 shouldn't all these Christian Americans have held the other cheek to Osama bin Laden as well? Instead they went to Iraq and Afgahnistan KILLING people. Though shalt not Kill, right? However I do recall loads of religious Americans proclaiming, Muslims are killing Christians as such they need to be killed as well, and therfore a war against them is justified.

And present Gaza? All Palestinians support Hamas - Hamas is hiding behind them - they are all Muslims and Muslims are all terrorists - so kill them all. Only Jews are loving and peaceful people and never did anything wrong. A complete perversion of facts, solely invented and upheld via respective religious believes and faith - thus justifying those Morals that are needed to excuse, and even call for the mudering of people.

So was it really a war against terrorism in e.g. Afgahnistan? or a war against those who pose a threat towards interests beheld by Christians, resulting out of their religious belief - FAITH? aka a religious war. Obviously the latter - since the entire policy in e.g. Afganistan ( I was there) was to disempower Islamic conservatives, aka the Taliban in order to introduce-impose Western (Christian) Moral values onto the Afgahn society.

The exact same thing, the USSR undertook in the 80'ies - introducing-imposing a different Moral standard onto a Muslim society. And where do Morals derive from, who sets the standards? right RELIGION, aka a respective FAITH. Where is the proof that e.g. Communists do not believe in a God? that they do not adhere to e.g. Taoism and Buddist believes? in e.g. todays and also during Mao's China.

BTW - the exact same also applies to the CPC policy in Xijiang - imposing CPC moral values onto Muslims. Which those bigot Christian Europeans and Americans declare to be in violation of human rights. (what human rights? - solely those defined by Christian Faith and MORALS?).

Where did Marx ever state "God does not exist"? all he stated was; Religion is an Opiate for the people. Aka RELIGION is used to manipulate and keep people in line - with their respective Masters interests.

Theism, belief in a God and life after death, forms an essential element in the ideological distortion and justification of social reality in capitalist society; it comforts the exploited people with promises of eternal happiness after death. The social organization of the belief, the church, is an instrument of the ruling class designed to keep the people under control.
As such its a "criticism of religion" and not a denial towards a God

Lenin was far more precise - rejecting the idea of a God-building religion. As such he never stated "there is no God" but rejected religions that create a God and therefore his "supposed" teachings/commands, freely invented, to fit a respective agenda. Thus religious people of whatever faith, basing their personal actions e.g. wars, onto a religious based Moral excuse.

In conclusion - every single war is based and finds it's roots in religion, and is therefore fought in the name of God. - with or without mentioning "God"

Nuff said - case closed.

I skipped read your waffle.

7% of all documented wars were religious based, so you could draw the conclusion that 93% of wars were atheist in nature, the biggest killing cult on the planet.

 

[Kruska]

I skipped read your waffle.

7% of all documented wars were religious based, so you could draw the conclusion that 93% of wars were atheist in nature, the biggest killing cult on the planet.

Only a person like you will "draw a conclusion" form a single book - that wasn't even meant for it, and therefore doesn't proof anything.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Only a person like you will "draw a conclusion" form a single book - that wasn't even meant for it, and therefore doesn't proof anything.

Well 7% were religious based, we're not in rocket science territory.

 

[Kruska]

Well 7% were religious based, we're not in rocket science territory.

In conclusion - every single war is based and finds it's roots in religion, and is therefore fought in the name of God. - with or without mentioning "God"

Nuff said - case closed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

In conclusion - every single war is based and finds it's roots in religion, and is therefore fought in the name of God. - with or without mentioning "God"

Nuff said - case closed.

In your conclusion, but not the world's conclusion

 

[Woodznutz]

Nobody cares about blacks being murdered or enslaved in Africa. The crocodile tears are saved for political purposes.

Life is cheap in many parts of the world.

 

[Woodznutz]

In conclusion - every single war is based and finds it's roots in religion, and is therefore fought in the name of God. - with or without mentioning "God"

Nuff said - case closed.

Factions ask their god to bless their efforts, as an afterthought. The only ones claiming a religious war are the Muslims. OTOH, we will fight to maintain freedom of religion for all.

 

[Zebra]

Muslims have a history of persecuting Christians.

true!