Christianity no longer a majority religion in UK

the Koran instructs them to kill non believers (non muslims)

the atomic bombs saved millions of lives Japanese and American. The US was staging for a ground invasion of Japan when the bombs ended the war. your knowledge of history is minimal at best.
What about the christian second world war ?
 
He fed the poor and healed the sick.Hes a comrade.
You fucktards never do that.

You just want to tax other people, the ones you envy and resent, to pay someone else to do it for you.

I’m not religious, but you’re blatantly lying about the Christian faith right now.
 

Its not been overtaken by other religions. No religion is the biggest beneficiary.

Coming from a chapel culture I find that a bit sad. Im not a regular myself anymore but when I do go I note that the congregation is old and grey.

I think I can save the churches some money and tell them where they are losing young people.

1. Be proper chapels. Fuck off the tambourines and guitars and sing proper hymns that we all know the words.
2. Use your position to promote social justice.The kids are fighting to save the planet. Get down with them.
3. Represent all mankind and not reactionary bigots who put the most in the collection plate.

Churches are generally conservative and conservatism is not christian. Jesus is a socialist.



You be in trouble in that case, tainty. Get a majority of islamists and they will happily toss you off of a building.

Or hang you.

I'm not sure it would be your choice.
 
Jesus was not a socialist and he disapproved in the strongest terms of anyone harming children, and he didn't mean a parent giving a child a spanking.
I very much doubt that he would have been into hitting children but what even makes you bring in harming children into this thread?
 

Its not been overtaken by other religions. No religion is the biggest beneficiary.

Coming from a chapel culture I find that a bit sad. Im not a regular myself anymore but when I do go I note that the congregation is old and grey.

I think I can save the churches some money and tell them where they are losing young people.

1. Be proper chapels. Fuck off the tambourines and guitars and sing proper hymns that we all know the words.
2. Use your position to promote social justice.The kids are fighting to save the planet. Get down with them.
3. Represent all mankind and not reactionary bigots who put the most in the collection plate.

Churches are generally conservative and conservatism is not christian. Jesus is a socialist.
I have been enormously surprised the length of time people have been claiming to still be Christian. When did you last hear Church bells on a Sunday? The last time I can remember hearing them was in the late 70's and then I was surprised!
 
The Muslims are taking over.

They've already taken over the governments of several small European countries. It was in the online news a few years ago.

There's already been a "fight" in the House of Commons in Britain, as there are a couple of Muslims trying to take over Parlament apparently.
Trolling much
 
I attend church every week and our congregation consists of both young and old. I don't know how you consider church's to be conservative. We pray and give worship to God.

You go to Church in the US. He is from Wales. In Scotland the number of Christians is even lower. 33 or 37% and going down every census. It is obviously the old dying off. That being said the Church of Scotland like your Church speaks more for the views of the people it serves. They have been trying to tell the Christian Zionists in the US that their beliefs are wrong. They were particularly concerned about this as they thought it was possibly this that was causing the negativity and even violence to Christians in the ME. They show courage and if I was prone to Christianity I would feel alright with them.

To the best of my knowledge Christianity has never been Capitalist in the UK as people appear to be saying it is in the US.
 
Jesus was definitely not a socialist, as he laid responsibility on individuals.
I think he probably was except according to you lot in the US where he appears to have been a Capitalist not caring for the have nots. That certainly is not how he was represented in the UK. Sure there was fire and broomstone in the past and torture to get the devel out of people who went against what the Church said but in the last 70 years or so the British Church has been more socialist than Capitalist. The US position you speak of is sad. If that is their position, US Christians will not do anything to help the poor whereas normally Christians feel it is one of their obligations. That being said I know of US Christin's who are just like UK ones and believe in helping those in need.
 

Its not been overtaken by other religions. No religion is the biggest beneficiary.

Coming from a chapel culture I find that a bit sad. Im not a regular myself anymore but when I do go I note that the congregation is old and grey.

I think I can save the churches some money and tell them where they are losing young people.

1. Be proper chapels. Fuck off the tambourines and guitars and sing proper hymns that we all know the words.
2. Use your position to promote social justice.The kids are fighting to save the planet. Get down with them.
3. Represent all mankind and not reactionary bigots who put the most in the collection plate.

Churches are generally conservative and conservatism is not christian. Jesus is a socialist.

The only reason it's taken this long is because many British people think they're Christians because they went to church once and like getting pissed at Christmas.
 

Its not been overtaken by other religions. No religion is the biggest beneficiary.

Coming from a chapel culture I find that a bit sad. Im not a regular myself anymore but when I do go I note that the congregation is old and grey.

I think I can save the churches some money and tell them where they are losing young people.

1. Be proper chapels. Fuck off the tambourines and guitars and sing proper hymns that we all know the words.
2. Use your position to promote social justice.The kids are fighting to save the planet. Get down with them.
3. Represent all mankind and not reactionary bigots who put the most in the collection plate.

Churches are generally conservative and conservatism is not christian. Jesus is a socialist.

Wrong.

1. Preach the Gospel

2. From Scripture

3. Worship Jesus and Him alone

That is Christianity. Not what kind of songs you sing. Not Social Justice. Not politics.

Jesus the Christ.
 

Its not been overtaken by other religions. No religion is the biggest beneficiary.

Coming from a chapel culture I find that a bit sad. Im not a regular myself anymore but when I do go I note that the congregation is old and grey.

I think I can save the churches some money and tell them where they are losing young people.

1. Be proper chapels. Fuck off the tambourines and guitars and sing proper hymns that we all know the words.
2. Use your position to promote social justice.The kids are fighting to save the planet. Get down with them.
3. Represent all mankind and not reactionary bigots who put the most in the collection plate.

Churches are generally conservative and conservatism is not christian. Jesus is a socialist.
"Socialism" shares some aspects of Jesus' message. That is not the same as Jesus' being a "socialist", and it is ridiculous to label him as such. He was not a materialist as "socialists", Marxists and capitalists are.
 
The US position you speak of is sad. If that is their position, US Christians will not do anything to help the poor whereas normally Christians feel it is one of their obligations. That being said I know of US Christin's who are just like UK ones and believe in helping those in need.
You don’t understand.

Christians believe in helping those in need. Like, donate your time and your money and go help them. You, the Christian, you do something. Of your own free will, you go and do it.

Lazy, envious socialist filth don’t believe in that. They believe they should just use force against others they don’t like to make them give money, mostly to them, but maybe some for those less fortunate, to then pay someone else to do the helping. This is coercive and vile and there is no goodness or altruism involved at all.
 
You don’t understand.

Christians believe in helping those in need. Like, donate your time and your money and go help them. You, the Christian, you do something. Of your own free will, you go and do it.

Lazy, envious socialist filth don’t believe in that. They believe they should just use force against others they don’t like to make them give money, mostly to them, but maybe some for those less fortunate, to then pay someone else to do the helping. This is coercive and vile and there is no goodness or altruism involved at all.
Disagree

Is there not a tale in the bible about a camel finding it easier to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven?
 
Disagree

Is there not a tale in the bible about a camel finding it easier to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven?
Yeah. Christ encourages altruism.

Voluntary altruism.

Socialism isn’t altruism - it’s strongarming other people to do things. There is nothing good about that whatsoever - it is in fact evil.

If Jesus were socialist he’d have concocted his religion to ingratiate his followers and ideology into the Roman senate, not offend or upset them, and then demand Rome raise taxes on the rich and send more money to Judea, mostly just for people like himself, but possibly some for the poor, as long as Roman soldiers were backing up the seizure of cash for him and his cronies.

Hell Rome was already corrupt as hell and run by authoritarian strongmen and since Julius Caesar was already all about giving largesse to the poor and seizing the property of other Romans to do it, all in order to secure the support of the masses and give his allies more money and property - funny, just like how socialism “works!”

A socialist Jesus could have accomplished that especially with divinity and miracle powers.
 
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Yeah. Christ encourages altruism.

Voluntary altruism.

Socialism isn’t altruism - it’s strongarming other people to do things. There is nothing good about that whatsoever - it is in fact evil.

If Jesus were socialist he’d have concocted his religion to ingratiate his followers and ideology into the Roman senate, not offend or upset them, and then demand Rome raise taxes on the rich and send more money to Judea, mostly just for people like himself, but possibly some for the poor, as long as Roman soldiers were backing up the seizure of cash for him and his cronies.

Hell Rome was already corrupt as hell and run by authoritarian strongmen and since Julius Caesar was already all about giving largesse to the poor and seizing the property of other Romans to do it, all in order to secure the support of the masses and give his allies more money and property - funny, just like how socialism “works!”

A socialist Jesus could have accomplished that especially with divinity and miracle powers.
Well for the Christians who I think I have heard saying Jesus was a socialist, I pretty sure one was Thom Hartmann, what they are referring to was taking care of those who need - not massive inequalities as we have in our societies at the moment where the massive redistribution in wealth there in the US since the 70's/80's has been only for the top 1% to a slight degree to the top 0.1% to a greater degree and most of all to the top 0.01%. When people were losing their ability to make money during Covid, the owner of Amazon made double digit billions while doing no work at all.

You do not know what democratic socialism is. This is a problem in the US. Hell I'd probably learn a wrong meaning if it meant jail time or even being deported as it did in the past. The nearest you have come to it was Roosevelt's New Deal which he put in the last time we were in the same economic situation as we are in now.

Basically the meaning which people like Hartmann and other Christians mean is that in a healthy country people would have a similar standard of living. We would take care of those most needy. It would not be the ever greater inequalities we see in Western Countries since the 80's.

There may however be another reason for you thinking this. Some of your Christian Right have changed God's/Jesus's thinking so that they do believe in the individual first and broadcast to the people of Africa that if they are not succeeding it is because of defects in them. Funny how religion can take on a political slant. They also fought against non far right Christians for the work they were doing in Africa.
 
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