Chinese President Urges Navy to Prepare for War

[JoeB131]

They may have a large military in numbers, but they have a few problems with that. First is the same problem russia had in looking towards an overseas invasion. How the **** do you get your army there in a fast, efficient way. China would have to stage in Canada or south/central america, and good luck doing that without the US finding out. The second problem is China needs it's military police at home. Poor and hungry people tend to revolt if you let up the oppression. Then there is the food issue. How do you supply your army overseas while starving your people to revolt at home? The US is more than capable of burning large portions of their crops. Starving armies and people offer up a whole huge wartime problem for china.

The topic was NOT China invading the United States.

Oh, then they aren't invading anything I care about, then.

 

[JoeB131]

It's amusing how you try to match your childish ignorance to your far-left political agenda. Not realistic, but amusing.

China is only a threat because a lot of people who didn't want to pay an American or a Japanese or a Taiwanese a fair wage opened a factory there.

Now you're whining because they are using that power you gave them to push you around.

I don't give a ****. If Taiwan and Japan get overrun, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Go wash out your Che t-shirt, you short-sighted idiot. You are starting to stink. It is so obvious why all your life you have been a follower, a grunt, a peon, and why you'll never be anything more. Even your stupid-ass lefty bumper-sticker slogans are out of date.

I've always noted that you go into the whining personal insults and profanity when you don't have an answer.

Okay, one more time. China overruns Taiwan. Why is that my problem?

It ain't a left or right thing, guy. I'm tired of carrying the rest of the world while it rips us off. I'm not sure why you are all for that.

 

[Unkotare]

They may have a large military in numbers, but they have a few problems with that. First is the same problem russia had in looking towards an overseas invasion. How the **** do you get your army there in a fast, efficient way. China would have to stage in Canada or south/central america, and good luck doing that without the US finding out. The second problem is China needs it's military police at home. Poor and hungry people tend to revolt if you let up the oppression. Then there is the food issue. How do you supply your army overseas while starving your people to revolt at home? The US is more than capable of burning large portions of their crops. Starving armies and people offer up a whole huge wartime problem for china.

The topic was NOT China invading the United States.

Oh, then they aren't invading anything I care about, then.

We have already established that you are a short-sighted fool. No need to belabor the point.

 

[Unkotare]

China is only a threat because a lot of people who didn't want to pay an American or a Japanese or a Taiwanese a fair wage opened a factory there.

Now you're whining because they are using that power you gave them to push you around.

I don't give a ****. If Taiwan and Japan get overrun, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Go wash out your Che t-shirt, you short-sighted idiot. You are starting to stink. It is so obvious why all your life you have been a follower, a grunt, a peon, and why you'll never be anything more. Even your stupid-ass lefty bumper-sticker slogans are out of date.

Okay, one more time. China overruns Taiwan. Why is that my problem?

If you honestly don't know - can't even imagine - then you are honestly too stupid to be helped and we've found yet another subject you are unqualified to discuss.

 

[JoeB131]

Go wash out your Che t-shirt, you short-sighted idiot. You are starting to stink. It is so obvious why all your life you have been a follower, a grunt, a peon, and why you'll never be anything more. Even your stupid-ass lefty bumper-sticker slogans are out of date.

Okay, one more time. China overruns Taiwan. Why is that my problem?

If you honestly don't know - can't even imagine - then you are honestly too stupid to be helped and we've found yet another subject you are unqualified to discuss.

So you're admitting you don't have an answer, then? At least not one where you will be mocked.

 

[waltky]

Vietnam launching submarine deterrent around disputed Spratly Islands...

Vietnam building submarine deterrent against China
Tue, Sep 09, 2014 - Vietnam is set to have a credible naval deterrent to China in the South China Sea in the form of Kilo-class submarines from Russa, which experts say could make Beijing think twice before pushing its neighbor around in disputed waters.

Vietnam has taken possession of two of the state-of-the-art submarines and is to get a third in November in a US$2.6 billion deal agreed with Moscow in 2009. A final three are scheduled to be delivered within two years. Annual trade between Vietnam and China has risen to US$50 billion, but Hanoi has long been wary of China, especially over Beijing’s claims to most of the South China Sea. Beijing’s placement of an oil rig in waters claimed by Vietnam earlier this year infuriated Hanoi, but the coast guard vessels it dispatched to the platform were always chased off by larger Chinese boats. Once the submarines are fully operational, the Vietnamese are likely to run so-called area denial operations off its coast and around its military bases in the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島), which are also claimed by Taiwan.

That would complicate Chinese calculations over any military move against Vietnamese bases in the islands or in the event of an armed clash over disputed oil fields, analysts said. “Sea denial means creating a psychological deterrent by making sure a stronger naval rival never really knows where your subs might be,” said Collin Koh of Singapore’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. “It is classic asymmetric warfare utilized by the weak against the strong and something I think the Vietnamese understand very well. The question is whether they can perfect it in the underwater dimension.” From the harbor of Cam Ranh Bay the first two submarines have recently been sighted on training runs along the Vietnamese coast according to diplomats in the region.

A Vietnamese crew is training aboard its third submarine in waters off St Petersburg ahead of its delivery to Cam Ranh Bay in November, Russia’s Interfax news agency reported last month. Military analysts are trying to gauge how quickly Vietnamese crews are mastering the advanced submarines and some believe Hanoi plans to start sending them further offshore into the South China Sea soon. “The Vietnamese have changed the whole scenario — they already have two submarines, they have the crews and they appear to have the weapons and their capabilities and experience will be growing from this point,” said Siemon Wezeman, an arms expert at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. “From the point of view of Chinese assumptions, the Vietnamese deterrent is already at a point where it must be very real.”

As well as possessing shorter-range torpedoes, Kilo-class submarines while submerged can launch sea-skimming anti-ship missiles that can travel 300km. Zhang Baohui (張寶輝), a security expert at Hong Kong’s Lingnan University said he believed Beijing’s military planners were concerned about the submarines. “On a theoretical level, the Vietnamese are at the point where they could put them to combat use,” he said. Senior Vietnamese military officials told reporters they were satisfied with progress, saying training at sea and integration of the submarines into its developing naval force was going smoothly. They stopped short of confirming whether the first two were fully operational but stressed they would be used “defensively.”

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Vietnam Seeks a New Identity: Global Friend
September 08, 2014 — Vietnam hopes to move beyond its economic relationship with China and claim a larger role in the global marketplace

Buy a water bottle or tube of lipstick in Vietnam and there’s a decent chance the packaging came from Duy Tan, a company that supplies plastic to other businesses. Dinh Dai Ky, a sales representative in Duy Tan’s exports division, said his company produces so much plastic that it’s running out of customers. "The Vietnamese market is saturated, there’s no more room for us here," Ky said. "So we have to expand." Duy Tan is eyeing new markets from Myanmar (also known as Burma) to Sweden, as well as preparing to expand its base in the United States. "It has laws, it’s safe, so it’s good to do business in the U.S.," Ky said.

A guard monitors container trucks crossing the Tan Thanh border gate with China in Vietnam's northern Lang Son province

The government in Hanoi is hoping more businesses share Ky’s ambitions because they match Vietnam’s ambitions for itself. The country is working to grow its share of global trade, though not strictly for economic reasons. "Integration" has become a buzzword of late among officials, who want to see Vietnam transformed into a respected player in the world community. Besides increasing trade, Vietnam has made a push to cooperate with as many nations as possible on the security, diplomatic and humanitarian fronts.

War, past and present

Interestingly, part of what’s driving this campaign is armed conflict, both in the past and potentially in the future. Even though four decades have elapsed since the Vietnam War, this communist nation continues to be identified internationally as a former Cold War battlefield. Vietnam wants to reinvent itself and, to that end, integration is essential. "It's telling the world, 'We're growing up. Look at us, we're not at war anymore, we're a country,' " said Dennis McCornac, an economist at Loyola University Maryland. He has advised officials in Vietnam on its transition from a socialist-oriented economy to one based on a free market.

The Vietnamese have become not only weary of war, but also wary that it could break out again in the South China Sea. Relations with China reached a new nadir this spring, when the bigger communist brother dispatched an oil rig to the waters that both countries claim as their own. That pushed Vietnam onto the international arena, where it filed a petition with the United Nations to help settle the dispute multilaterally. McCornac argues that the provocation helped to speed up Vietnam’s already ongoing outreach to foreign friends. "That’s sort of making it go a little bit faster," he said. "Vietnam has decided ... don't put all our eggs in one basket."

Increasing trade

 

[Vigilante]

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - China askin' to get dey's butt kicked...

China Suggests It Has Placed Weapons on Disputed Spratly Islands
DEC. 15, 2016 — China signaled on Thursday that it had placed weapons on disputed South China Sea islands and would use them like a “slingshot” to repel threats, compounding an already tense relationship with the incoming Trump administration.

The Chinese message, in a Defense Ministry statement, suggested that China was deviating further from a pledge made by its president, Xi Jinping, to not militarize the islands. Known as the Spratlys, the islands dot some of the world’s busiest commercial maritime routes. China’s plan to strengthen its claims over the islands with permanent outposts has raised tensions with neighbors and the United States over freedom of navigation in the South China Sea. The Chinese have accused the United States in recent weeks of “provocative” moves by sending warships near some of these islands.

The Chinese have been artificially enlarging their Spratly outposts, creating harbors, runways and reinforced hangars big enough for military aircraft. But new satellite images made public this week appeared to reveal weapons emplacements for the first time. The Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, which released the images through its Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, said they showed “large antiaircraft guns and probable close-in weapons systems,” which can theoretically thwart cruise missile attacks.

The Defense Ministry statement, posted on its website in response to the images, did not specify what kinds of weapons they showed but said any military hardware on the islands was reasonable. It repeated China’s contention that activities on the islands are civilian in nature. “As for necessary military facilities, they are primarily for defense and self-protection, and this is proper and legitimate,” the Defense Ministry said. “For instance, if someone was at the door of your home, cocky and swaggering, how could it be that you wouldn’t prepare a slingshot?”

There was no immediate comment from President-elect Donald J. Trump or his transition team. But the statement seemed intended in part to further stoke China’s already testy relationship with the incoming administration. Mr. Trump recently angered Chinese officials by holding a phone conversation with Tsai Ing-wen, the president of Taiwan, an island that Beijing deems a breakaway province of China. It had been nearly four decades since a United States president or president-elect had such direct contact with a Taiwanese leader.

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Pacific fleet head in South China Sea says U.S. is ready to confront China
Friday 16th December, 2016 | WASHINGTON, U.S. - The head of the U.S. Pacific fleet in South China Sea has said that the U.S. was ready to confront China if it continued its maritime claims.

Admiral Harry Harris, head of the U.S. Pacific Command has said, "We will not allow a shared domain to be closed down unilaterally no matter how many bases are built on artificial features in the South China Sea. We will cooperate when we can but we will be ready to confront when we must." China continues to expand its territorial expansion in the disputed waters, even months after the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, Netherlands ruled that China’s economic claims on most of the South China Sea waters had no legal basis. The Asian giant has come under severe attack not just by countries that claim the South China Sea, but also other nations like the U.S. and Australia - that have condemned China’s dominating position in the resource-rich waters.

Six Pacific nations including Brunei, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam have territorial claims in the South China Sea that is believed to have huge deposits of oil and gas and also witness over $5 trillion in global ship-borne trade passing by each year. U.S. estimates that Beijing has added more than 3,200 acres of land in the South China Sea over the past three years for building runways, ports, aircraft hangars and communications equipment. In response, U.S. too has conducted several freedom-of-navigation operations in the South China Sea, including one in October.

Admiral Harris argued, “The U.S. fought its first war following our independence to ensure freedom of navigation. This is an enduring principle and one of the reasons our forces stand ready to fight tonight." In response to Harris’ comments, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said, "We hope the United States can abide by its promises on not taking sides on the sovereignty dispute in the South China Sea, respect the efforts of countries in the region to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea region and do more to promote peace and stability there."

Recently, satellite imagery reported showed that China has installed “significant" defensive weapons on its many artificial islands in the region. The report drew U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s ire, who blasted Beijing's South China Sea policy on Twitter last week. Trump criticised China’s decision to build a "massive military complex" there.

Pacific fleet head in South China Sea says US is ready to confront China

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Granny says, "Dat's right - China askin' to get dey's butt kicked...

China Suggests It Has Placed Weapons on Disputed Spratly Islands
DEC. 15, 2016 — China signaled on Thursday that it had placed weapons on disputed South China Sea islands and would use them like a “slingshot” to repel threats, compounding an already tense relationship with the incoming Trump administration.

The Chinese message, in a Defense Ministry statement, suggested that China was deviating further from a pledge made by its president, Xi Jinping, to not militarize the islands. Known as the Spratlys, the islands dot some of the world’s busiest commercial maritime routes. China’s plan to strengthen its claims over the islands with permanent outposts has raised tensions with neighbors and the United States over freedom of navigation in the South China Sea. The Chinese have accused the United States in recent weeks of “provocative” moves by sending warships near some of these islands.

The Chinese have been artificially enlarging their Spratly outposts, creating harbors, runways and reinforced hangars big enough for military aircraft. But new satellite images made public this week appeared to reveal weapons emplacements for the first time. The Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, which released the images through its Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, said they showed “large antiaircraft guns and probable close-in weapons systems,” which can theoretically thwart cruise missile attacks.

The Defense Ministry statement, posted on its website in response to the images, did not specify what kinds of weapons they showed but said any military hardware on the islands was reasonable. It repeated China’s contention that activities on the islands are civilian in nature. “As for necessary military facilities, they are primarily for defense and self-protection, and this is proper and legitimate,” the Defense Ministry said. “For instance, if someone was at the door of your home, cocky and swaggering, how could it be that you wouldn’t prepare a slingshot?”

There was no immediate comment from President-elect Donald J. Trump or his transition team. But the statement seemed intended in part to further stoke China’s already testy relationship with the incoming administration. Mr. Trump recently angered Chinese officials by holding a phone conversation with Tsai Ing-wen, the president of Taiwan, an island that Beijing deems a breakaway province of China. It had been nearly four decades since a United States president or president-elect had such direct contact with a Taiwanese leader.

Fiery Cross Reef

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Pacific fleet head in South China Sea says U.S. is ready to confront China
Friday 16th December, 2016 | WASHINGTON, U.S. - The head of the U.S. Pacific fleet in South China Sea has said that the U.S. was ready to confront China if it continued its maritime claims.

Admiral Harry Harris, head of the U.S. Pacific Command has said, "We will not allow a shared domain to be closed down unilaterally no matter how many bases are built on artificial features in the South China Sea. We will cooperate when we can but we will be ready to confront when we must." China continues to expand its territorial expansion in the disputed waters, even months after the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, Netherlands ruled that China’s economic claims on most of the South China Sea waters had no legal basis. The Asian giant has come under severe attack not just by countries that claim the South China Sea, but also other nations like the U.S. and Australia - that have condemned China’s dominating position in the resource-rich waters.

Six Pacific nations including Brunei, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam have territorial claims in the South China Sea that is believed to have huge deposits of oil and gas and also witness over $5 trillion in global ship-borne trade passing by each year. U.S. estimates that Beijing has added more than 3,200 acres of land in the South China Sea over the past three years for building runways, ports, aircraft hangars and communications equipment. In response, U.S. too has conducted several freedom-of-navigation operations in the South China Sea, including one in October.

Admiral Harris argued, “The U.S. fought its first war following our independence to ensure freedom of navigation. This is an enduring principle and one of the reasons our forces stand ready to fight tonight." In response to Harris’ comments, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said, "We hope the United States can abide by its promises on not taking sides on the sovereignty dispute in the South China Sea, respect the efforts of countries in the region to maintain peace and stability in the South China Sea region and do more to promote peace and stability there."

Recently, satellite imagery reported showed that China has installed “significant" defensive weapons on its many artificial islands in the region. The report drew U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s ire, who blasted Beijing's South China Sea policy on Twitter last week. Trump criticised China’s decision to build a "massive military complex" there.

Pacific fleet head in South China Sea says US is ready to confront China

Hey, DUMBFUCK.

Stop bumping old ass irrelevant threads ya loser

 

[whitehall]

China never said it and China never "urged it's navy to prepare for navy combat". It's typical obvious left wing fake news when you read the actual transcript. I'm surprised that it generated this much interest.

 

[waltky]

Grampa...

... Uncle Ferd says ya gonna think different...

... when we get inna war with dem Chinamens.

whitehall...

... Granny says pooh-pooh...

... to you too.

 

[jknowgood]

Did anyone notice that the date on it is 2011?

 

[francoHFW]

5 years old and perhaps correct...The Red Chinese may not be amused by the Donald's chatter. Let Duterte handle it lol...

 

[Frankeneinstein]

China Suggests It Has Placed Weapons on Disputed Spratly Islands
DEC. 15, 2016 — China signaled on Thursday that it had placed weapons on disputed South China Sea islands and would use them like a “slingshot” to repel threats, compounding an already tense relationship with the incoming Trump administration.

Oh man, this is bad...when the heck did they get slingshots? geez now what do we do? Take heed Mr. President, if they have slingshot like weapons now how far off can a catapult like weapon be...tread lightly Mr. President.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Time for the U.S. to get its ass whipped. grown to big for their britches and need a good ass whipping.

You will not find even one liberal in this country to challenge you on this

 

[francoHFW]

Time for the U.S. to get its ass whipped. grown to big for their britches and need a good ass whipping.

You will not find even one liberal in this country to challenge you on this

Screw you and the horse you rode in on, brainwashed hater dupe.OTOH, fuq the lying greedy idiot hypocrite GOP. And its chumps like you. Go Trump Party.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Time for the U.S. to get its ass whipped. grown to big for their britches and need a good ass whipping.

You will not find even one liberal in this country to challenge you on this

Screw you and the horse you rode in on, brainwashed hater dupe.OTOH, fuq the lying greedy idiot hypocrite GOP. And its chumps like you. Go Trump Party.

Not even one...Goes right to my point, your problem is with my post, not the one I claimed you would have no problem with.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says it looks like it's big enough to carry dat 200 million man army...

Taiwan says Chinese aircraft carrier passes south of island
Sun Dec 25, 2016 | A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier has passed through waters south of Taiwan and is heading southwest, Taiwan's defense ministry said on Monday of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The ministry said the aircraft carrier the Liaoning, accompanied by five other vessels, had passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point on Monday morning via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines. "Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwanese fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed. Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation". The exercise comes amid renewed tension over self-ruled Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain", an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan. In Beijing, influential state-run tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield. "The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it. Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning traveling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific. Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier Liaoning sails the water in East China Sea

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine. China's Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practiced for decades. Last December, the defense ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier program is a state secret. Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

Taiwan says Chinese aircraft carrier passes south of island

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More Chinese Missiles Bound for Disputed Islands
Dec 23, 2016 | China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea.

China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea, and the U.S. intelligence community anticipates these new missiles will eventually go to some of China's disputed territories for the first time, two U.S. officials tell Fox News. The new missiles have been seen by American intelligence satellites on China's provincial island province of Hainan. While Hainan is not part the disputed islands, officials say this location is "only temporary" and anticipate the missiles will be deployed soon to the contested Spratly Islands or Woody Island.

The two missile systems seen on Hainan island are known as the CSA-6b and HQ-9. The CSA-6b is a combined close in missile system with a range of 10 miles also contains anti-aircraft guns. The longer range HQ-9 system has a range of 125 miles. This latest deployment of Chinese military equipment comes days after the Chinese returned an unclassified underwater research drone in the South China Sea. The Pentagon accused a Chinese Navy ship of stealing the drone, over the objections of the American crew operating it in international waters to collect oceanographic data.

Alleged on-going reclamation is conducted by China on Mischief Reef in the Spratly group of islands in the disputed South China Sea

The escalation comes weeks after President elect-Donald Trump received a congratulatory phone call from Taiwan's president breaking decades long "one-China" protocol and angering Beijing. China has deployed surface-to-air missiles to Woody Island in the South China Sea before, as Fox News first reported in February. It has yet to deploy missiles to its seven man-made islands in the Spratly chain of islands. Weeks ago civilian satellite imagery obtained by a Washington, DC based think-tank showed gun emplacement on all the disputed islands, but not missiles.

Earlier this month, Fox News first reported China getting ready to deploy another missile defense system from a port in southeast China. China also flew a long-range bomber around the South China Sea for the first time since March 2015 and days after Mr. Trump's phone call with his Taiwan counterpart. Days before President Trump's call, a pair of long-range H-6K bombers flew around the island of Taiwan for the first time.

More Chinese Missiles Bound for Disputed Islands | Military.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

Uncle Ferd says it looks like it's big enough to carry dat 200 million man army...

Taiwan says Chinese aircraft carrier passes south of island
Sun Dec 25, 2016 | A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier has passed through waters south of Taiwan and is heading southwest, Taiwan's defense ministry said on Monday of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The ministry said the aircraft carrier the Liaoning, accompanied by five other vessels, had passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point on Monday morning via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines. "Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwanese fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed. Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation". The exercise comes amid renewed tension over self-ruled Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain", an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan. In Beijing, influential state-run tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield. "The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it. Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning traveling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific. Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier Liaoning sails the water in East China Sea

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine. China's Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practiced for decades. Last December, the defense ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier program is a state secret. Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

Taiwan says Chinese aircraft carrier passes south of island

See also:

More Chinese Missiles Bound for Disputed Islands
Dec 23, 2016 | China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea.

China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea, and the U.S. intelligence community anticipates these new missiles will eventually go to some of China's disputed territories for the first time, two U.S. officials tell Fox News. The new missiles have been seen by American intelligence satellites on China's provincial island province of Hainan. While Hainan is not part the disputed islands, officials say this location is "only temporary" and anticipate the missiles will be deployed soon to the contested Spratly Islands or Woody Island.

The two missile systems seen on Hainan island are known as the CSA-6b and HQ-9. The CSA-6b is a combined close in missile system with a range of 10 miles also contains anti-aircraft guns. The longer range HQ-9 system has a range of 125 miles. This latest deployment of Chinese military equipment comes days after the Chinese returned an unclassified underwater research drone in the South China Sea. The Pentagon accused a Chinese Navy ship of stealing the drone, over the objections of the American crew operating it in international waters to collect oceanographic data.

Alleged on-going reclamation is conducted by China on Mischief Reef in the Spratly group of islands in the disputed South China Sea

The escalation comes weeks after President elect-Donald Trump received a congratulatory phone call from Taiwan's president breaking decades long "one-China" protocol and angering Beijing. China has deployed surface-to-air missiles to Woody Island in the South China Sea before, as Fox News first reported in February. It has yet to deploy missiles to its seven man-made islands in the Spratly chain of islands. Weeks ago civilian satellite imagery obtained by a Washington, DC based think-tank showed gun emplacement on all the disputed islands, but not missiles.

Earlier this month, Fox News first reported China getting ready to deploy another missile defense system from a port in southeast China. China also flew a long-range bomber around the South China Sea for the first time since March 2015 and days after Mr. Trump's phone call with his Taiwan counterpart. Days before President Trump's call, a pair of long-range H-6K bombers flew around the island of Taiwan for the first time.

More Chinese Missiles Bound for Disputed Islands | Military.com

China is increasing military spending and power. Right now they're learning how to use aircraft carriers, give them 10 years and they'll have 5 of the things and will be proficient in their use.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Uncle Ferd says it looks like it's big enough to carry dat 200 million man army...

Taiwan says Chinese aircraft carrier passes south of island
Sun Dec 25, 2016 | A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier has passed through waters south of Taiwan and is heading southwest, Taiwan's defense ministry said on Monday of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The ministry said the aircraft carrier the Liaoning, accompanied by five other vessels, had passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point on Monday morning via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines. "Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwanese fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed. Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation". The exercise comes amid renewed tension over self-ruled Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain", an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan. In Beijing, influential state-run tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield. "The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it. Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning traveling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific. Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier Liaoning sails the water in East China Sea

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine. China's Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practiced for decades. Last December, the defense ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier program is a state secret. Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

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Dec 23, 2016 | China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea.

China has sent more surface-to-air missiles from the mainland to the South China Sea, and the U.S. intelligence community anticipates these new missiles will eventually go to some of China's disputed territories for the first time, two U.S. officials tell Fox News. The new missiles have been seen by American intelligence satellites on China's provincial island province of Hainan. While Hainan is not part the disputed islands, officials say this location is "only temporary" and anticipate the missiles will be deployed soon to the contested Spratly Islands or Woody Island.

The two missile systems seen on Hainan island are known as the CSA-6b and HQ-9. The CSA-6b is a combined close in missile system with a range of 10 miles also contains anti-aircraft guns. The longer range HQ-9 system has a range of 125 miles. This latest deployment of Chinese military equipment comes days after the Chinese returned an unclassified underwater research drone in the South China Sea. The Pentagon accused a Chinese Navy ship of stealing the drone, over the objections of the American crew operating it in international waters to collect oceanographic data.

Alleged on-going reclamation is conducted by China on Mischief Reef in the Spratly group of islands in the disputed South China Sea

The escalation comes weeks after President elect-Donald Trump received a congratulatory phone call from Taiwan's president breaking decades long "one-China" protocol and angering Beijing. China has deployed surface-to-air missiles to Woody Island in the South China Sea before, as Fox News first reported in February. It has yet to deploy missiles to its seven man-made islands in the Spratly chain of islands. Weeks ago civilian satellite imagery obtained by a Washington, DC based think-tank showed gun emplacement on all the disputed islands, but not missiles.

Earlier this month, Fox News first reported China getting ready to deploy another missile defense system from a port in southeast China. China also flew a long-range bomber around the South China Sea for the first time since March 2015 and days after Mr. Trump's phone call with his Taiwan counterpart. Days before President Trump's call, a pair of long-range H-6K bombers flew around the island of Taiwan for the first time.

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China is increasing military spending and power. Right now they're learning how to use aircraft carriers, give them 10 years and they'll have 5 of the things and will be proficient in their use.

No, not really,Naval experience cannot be learned any other way except through trial and error, it takes a century of naval experience just to become proficient, China's greatest advantage will be the vast number of lives they have at their disposal for disposal in leaning how to militarily navigate the high seas, and that's just to stay afloat.