China 'Ready for War' With The US

[Doc7505]

Yep. They thought the same way about Japan back in 1941 and about Russia in 2014.

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You forget that Japan attacked the U.S. first. As far as Russia has been concerned, attacking her has never been on the board. First strike retaliatory strikes were planned if attacked.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We won't lose Kaliningrad. More likely that we'll take Western Prussia, too. And if the USA decide to join the party - ok, the USA will lose Alaska and California.

Nope, you will be thrust back into Moscovy, without a doubt.

 

[Failzero]

We won't lose Kaliningrad. More likely that we'll take Western Prussia, too. And if the USA decide to join the party - ok, the USA will lose Alaska and California.

lol @ “ We”

 

[The Duke]

lol @ “ We”

Russian shill confirmed.

 

[The Duke]

We won't lose Kaliningrad. More likely that we'll take Western Prussia, too. And if the USA decide to join the party - ok, the USA will lose Alaska and California.

Nope, you will be thrust back into Moscovy, without a doubt.

This thread needs more Litwin

 

[Zavulon]

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You forget that Japan attacked the U.S. first.

Actually, I meant the situation of summer of 1941, when American decision-makers thought that a) America can push Japan with economic pressure hard enough to change its behaviour b) Pacific Fleet is defended well enough at Pearl Harbour to make Japanese not dare to attack it.
They were wrong. When Japan faced the choice - a) to leave Indochina or b) attack the USA, you know what they choose.

Its quite possible that the same situation might happen with China.
Like, say:
1. There is pro-Continental rebellion in Taiwan. May be not even "rebellion" but the fight between pro-Continental parliament and pro-American president.
2. While the USA is keep thinking about what has happened, China land significant forces to support rebels (which they call "True Chinese patriots" and "True loyalists") and destroy DPP separatists. Significant part of "Taiwanese Army" tell that they are apolotical and don't get involved in the political conflicts between CCP, KMT, DPP and whoever else (mostly because they want to avoid Ukrainian scenario for Taiwan), but the lesser part go to jungles and mountains and start guerilla war (defending DPP "president")
3. America demands from CPR to leave Taiwan and threat with total oil embargo (basically beliving that their SSBNs are totally safe in the oceans).
4. China decide that the best defense is a good offense and attack US SSBNs in seas and in the bases. Plus, they attack bomber bases. And now they demand not only Taiwan, but Okinawa, Phillipines and Hawaii.
5. The USA face the grave choice - accept those peace proposals and lost Hawaii (as well as the global dominance) or launch Minutemen III's, kill, say, fifty million of Chinamen and then, because of Chinese and Russian retaliation strikes lost 300 mln of Americans plus Alaska and California.

As far as Russia has been concerned, attacking her has never been on the board.

Actually, the USA already attacked Russia, using Ukrainian militants as proxies.

First strike retaliatory strikes were planned if attacked.

Yep. Deterrence type one (credible second strike capability). Deterrence type two (credible first strike capability). Deterrence type three (capability to fight and win a limited nuclear war).

 

[Zavulon]

lol @ “ We”

What's funny?

 

[Zavulon]

Russian shill confirmed.

I'm a Russian from Moscow. I've never hide it.

 

[Litwin]

This thread needs more Litwin

1. han-China sucks at war , thats why have been ALWAYS enslaved , and brutally ruled by Northern nomadic barbarians.
2. han-China will never ever attack USA, ALL WHAT THEY WANT (realistically can get) ITs to get "back" Outer Manchuria

Outer Manchuria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Failzero]

I'm a Russian from Moscow. I've never hide it.

How many Russian Men have died in the Conflict that are ( Friends of Friends) ( Cousins ) ( Distant Family Members ) ( Schoolmates ) ( Co Workers ) ( Local Neighbors … and BTW Russia has lost 8 x More Service members in this Conflict than the US lost in 11 years of Vietnam war

 

[fncceo]

Problem is that I don't think the USA is ready to go to war with China. Democrats have severely damaged our military readiness.

We definitely weren’t ready for war in 1941.

Ask Japan how that worked out.

America could really use another greatest generation.

 

[Leo123]

Actually, I meant the situation of summer of 1941, when American decision-makers thought that a) America can push Japan with economic pressure hard enough to change its behaviour b) Pacific Fleet is defended well enough at Pearl Harbour to make Japanese not dare to attack it.
They were wrong. When Japan faced the choice - a) to leave Indochina or b) attack the USA, you know what they choose.

Its quite possible that the same situation might happen with China.
Like, say:
1. There is pro-Continental rebellion in Taiwan. May be not even "rebellion" but the fight between pro-Continental parliament and pro-American president.
2. While the USA is keep thinking about what has happened, China land significant forces to support rebels (which they call "True Chinese patriots" and "True loyalists") and destroy DPP separatists. Significant part of "Taiwanese Army" tell that they are apolotical and don't get involved in the political conflicts between CCP, KMT, DPP and whoever else (mostly because they want to avoid Ukrainian scenario for Taiwan), but the lesser part go to jungles and mountains and start guerilla war (defending DPP "president")
3. America demands from CPR to leave Taiwan and threat with total oil embargo (basically beliving that their SSBNs are totally safe in the oceans).
4. China decide that the best defense is a good offense and attack US SSBNs in seas and in the bases. Plus, they attack bomber bases. And now they demand not only Taiwan, but Okinawa, Phillipines and Hawaii.
5. The USA face the grave choice - accept those peace proposals and lost Hawaii (as well as the global dominance) or launch Minutemen III's, kill, say, fifty million of Chinamen and then, because of Chinese and Russian retaliation strikes lost 300 mln of Americans plus Alaska and California.


Actually, the USA already attacked Russia, using Ukrainian militants as proxies.


Yep. Deterrence type one (credible second strike capability). Deterrence type two (credible first strike capability). Deterrence type three (capability to fight and win a limited nuclear war).

"You forget that Japan attacked the U.S. first."

They lost and got nuked.

 

[Failzero]

We definitely weren’t ready for war in 1941.

Ask Japan how that worked out.

America could really use another greatest generation.

China would chew on Taiwan & Japan & South Korea for a few months ( Giving America time to gear up & deploy assets )

 

[otto105]

China 'Ready for War' With The US​

China 'Ready for War' With The US

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5 Mar 2025 ~~ By David Strom

Do you think that defending Ukraine is the existential battle for freedom in our lifetime?
I don't. Not that I want Vlad the Mad Putin to take over Ukraine, but the US faces much bigger problems than getting involved in a territorial dispute in a country with which we have almost no shared interests.

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For over twenty years, presidents have talked about the "pivot to Asia" in US foreign policy, and for over 20 years that pivot never happened.
The reason for all that talk is simple: most of the action in the world economy touches Asia in some way, yet the region is not especially stable politically and militarily. China is an expansionist power, Russia is a player in the Pacific as well as Europe, and territorial disputes are more common there and much more important than in Europe.
China and the Philippines are in a lukewarm war over territorial disputes, and China's ambitions to retake Taiwan are coming to a head.
And now China declares that it is ready for war with the United States.
We all saw this coming. As the US economy became ever more intertwined with China, the Chinese ambition and capability to exercise economic and military power has grown even faster.
~Snip~
I don't expect hostilities to break out tomorrow, although the trade war is heating up already. But China has been expanding its military at an alarming rate, with the world's largest (but not most powerful) Navy, an anti-access area-denial umbrella of ballistic missiles, an increasingly capable air force, and bellicose policies against its neighbors.

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~Snip~
War games have been worrying our military leaders, showing devastating losses for Americans in any conflict should it occur. As the US has had trouble remaking our military from one focused on small conflicts against ragtag terrorists to one ready to take on near-peer adversaries, China has been laser focused on building capabilities to take advantage of our long supply lines and reliance on carriers and fixed air bases to project power in the region.

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This, more than even the humanitarian and fiscal incentives to end the Ukraine war, justifies Trump's hardball tactics in Europe. Our main adversary is China, and Xi Jinping is laying down the gauntlet.
Xi, it is said, wants to get Taiwan back before he exits the political scene. I can't see into his head to know that this is true, but if so war of some kind is inevitable.
And Xi is signaling he is ready.


Commentary:
The Chinese have been building their military for decades. Yet, like the North Koreans and Russians they continue to fight the last war.
Their human mass attacks are only fodder for cannon and drones.
In relation to China's readiness to fight. Everything looks great until the first shots are fired then reality kicks in... Every military leadership in history says the same thing until the first shots are fired and boots hit the ground. Russia found that out very quickly...
Donald Rumsfeld said, "You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.".
Sure they got lots of planes, ships and other machines of war. But how many seasoned fighter pilots and naval skippers do they have? How many pilots can do carrier landings and takeoffs? How well drilled are their crews?
Taiwan, however, has been preparing for attempted invasions for a long time, and watching with interest the goings on in Ukraine.
Then again China is looking at Manchuria and looking to take land from India.
Before Democrats turned the Russo-Ukraine war. into an endless war and their personal laundering piggy bank, back when it was still being fought out of pure desperation, the Ukrainians did some brilliant things with drones, land mines and defensive urban warfare. The text books have all been changed. And Taiwan has been taking notes.
I think it's important for all of us to remember how we got to this place. We got here in large measure because politicians and globalists facilitated the move of our industrial base overseas, and selling strategic technology to China while enriching themselves.
That is what Bill Clinton did by selling out the United States of America to the Chinese Communists.
While all in America were concerned about Bubba was getting his knob polished by an aide . The hell with their families who were going to be killed by the Communists so that he could make a dollar. China Gate was real and catastrophic to America.
Read more:

Red Face Over China - June 1, 1998

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Declassified Papers Show Pattern Of Approval Of Export Waivers For China - June 11, 1998

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Congress Investigating Sales of Satellite Technology to China (Published 1998)

Several Congressional committees investigate whether Clinton Administration's policy of exporting space satellite technology to China has helped China and other countries to develop and use nuclear missiles; inquiries were sparked by article in The New York Times disclosing Pentagon finding that...

www.nytimes.com

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How China acquires ‘the crown jewels’ of U.S. technology

The U.S. fails to adequately police foreign deals for next-generation software that powers the military and American economic strength.

www.politico.com

Please Vlad stop…



The whiny post of a loser

 

[fncceo]

China would chew on Taiwan & Japan & South Korea for a few months ( Giving America time to gear up & deploy assets )

I’m heading to China in June for a month long holiday.

I’ll keep you posted.

 

[Failzero]

I’m heading to China in June for a month long holiday.

I’ll keep you posted.

Let us know if the Traffic Cops and City Police forces are armed ( Sidearm or Long guns ) and if it’s like one out of every five or ten that are armed keep tally

 

[fncceo]

Let us know if the Traffic Cops and City Police forces are armed ( Sidearm or Long guns ) and if it’s like one out of every five or ten that are armed keep tally

Chinese police rarely exhibit firepower as they don’t have the same need for deterrence as we do.

But, they have significant resources at every station including impressive riot control facilities.

Also, unlike here where military bases tend to be distant from metro centers, in China you see PLA facilities in the heart of most cities and towns. Close on hand if required.

 

[Zavulon]

How many Russian Men have died in the Conflict that are ( Friends of Friends) ( Cousins ) ( Distant Family Members ) ( Schoolmates ) ( Co Workers ) ( Local Neighbors …

One cousin of my friend was killed. Three friends of mine were lightly wounded and recovered, one - crippled and invalidised. One of my cousins from Kherson left Ukraine back in 2015, my cousine from Mariupol still live in it.

and BTW Russia has lost 8 x More Service members in this Conflict than the US lost in 11 years of Vietnam war

It worth it. Americans mostly didn't understand why are they there. We do understand. You know, "It's a good day to die, if you know the reasons why..."

 

[Zavulon]

"You forget that Japan attacked the U.S. first."

They lost and got nuked.

They lost back in WWII, but it doesn't mean that China won't won the WWIII.

 

[Zavulon]

We definitely weren’t ready for war in 1941.

As if the Japanese were ready.

Ask Japan how that worked out.

Don't tell me about competence of politicians, generals and manufacturers. It doesn't exist. The victory is usually achived by a side that made one fatal mistake lesser.

America could really use another greatest generation.

May be. Or, may be, China will make one fatal mistake lesser and win.