AZrailwhale
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The only way China can destroy American carriers to put nukes on its missiles and the US would retaliate with its much larger number of nukes.
China 'Ready for War' With The US
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AZrailwhale
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they are guided in terms of being aimed at a particular piece of ocean at launch. they have no terminal guidance to home on a target.
Failzero
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By the time they take out a third Carrier of ours we would be conventional Bombing and Missile attacking 4-8 of their largest cities .
Ringo
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China has successfully conducted a controlled field test of a non-nuclear hydrogen bomb. The South China Morning Post (SCMP) cites a study published in March in the Journal of Projectiles, Rockets, Missiles and Guidance.
The explosion of the 2 kg bomb caused “devastating chemical chain reactions without the use of any radioactive materials,” the publication said. During testing of the device, a fireball emerged, with temperatures exceeding 1,000 degrees Celsius. It lasted more than two seconds - that's 15 times longer than equivalent TNT explosions.
The bomb was developed by the 705th Research Institute of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC), which plays a key role in developing underwater weapons systems.
The bomb was built using a magnesium hydride-based solid-state hydrogen storage device capable of storing significantly more hydrogen than a pressurized cylinder. It was originally designed to power remote areas.
When activated with conventional explosives, magnesium hydride underwent rapid thermal decomposition, releasing hydrogen gas that ignited and burned for long periods of time, the study said
“Hydrogen gas explosions occur with minimal ignition energy, have a wide range and release flames that spread rapidly in all directions,” SCMP quoted the publication's authors as saying.
This combination allows “precise control over the intensity of the explosion, easily achieving uniform target engagement over large areas,” the scientists explained.
According to the article, the tested hydrogen bomb can cause significant thermal damage, as the resulting red-hot fireball lasts longer than a 0.12-second TNT flash.
During testing, it was found that with limited detonation, the peak overpressure reached 428.43 kilopascals at a distance of two meters from the bomb. This represents about 40% of the explosive force in TNT equivalent, but the range of heat propagation is much greater.
Whether the Chinese army is going to use such a weapon is unclear, SCMP notes. The study does not specify the source of obtaining such large quantities of magnesium hydride for testing.
Until recently, laboratories produced only a few grams of the substance per day because binding hydrogen to magnesium requires high temperatures and pressure. Accidental exposure to air during the production process can lead to explosions and fatalities, the publication writes. In 2025, a plant capable of producing 150 tons of magnesium hydride per year started operating in China's Shaanxi province.
The explosion of the 2 kg bomb caused “devastating chemical chain reactions without the use of any radioactive materials,” the publication said. During testing of the device, a fireball emerged, with temperatures exceeding 1,000 degrees Celsius. It lasted more than two seconds - that's 15 times longer than equivalent TNT explosions.
The bomb was developed by the 705th Research Institute of the China State Shipbuilding Corporation (CSSC), which plays a key role in developing underwater weapons systems.
The bomb was built using a magnesium hydride-based solid-state hydrogen storage device capable of storing significantly more hydrogen than a pressurized cylinder. It was originally designed to power remote areas.
When activated with conventional explosives, magnesium hydride underwent rapid thermal decomposition, releasing hydrogen gas that ignited and burned for long periods of time, the study said
“Hydrogen gas explosions occur with minimal ignition energy, have a wide range and release flames that spread rapidly in all directions,” SCMP quoted the publication's authors as saying.
This combination allows “precise control over the intensity of the explosion, easily achieving uniform target engagement over large areas,” the scientists explained.
According to the article, the tested hydrogen bomb can cause significant thermal damage, as the resulting red-hot fireball lasts longer than a 0.12-second TNT flash.
During testing, it was found that with limited detonation, the peak overpressure reached 428.43 kilopascals at a distance of two meters from the bomb. This represents about 40% of the explosive force in TNT equivalent, but the range of heat propagation is much greater.
Whether the Chinese army is going to use such a weapon is unclear, SCMP notes. The study does not specify the source of obtaining such large quantities of magnesium hydride for testing.
Until recently, laboratories produced only a few grams of the substance per day because binding hydrogen to magnesium requires high temperatures and pressure. Accidental exposure to air during the production process can lead to explosions and fatalities, the publication writes. In 2025, a plant capable of producing 150 tons of magnesium hydride per year started operating in China's Shaanxi province.
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China does not want war with the US.
No profit in that.
No profit in that.
Stryder50
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Link to this article(?) with more text;
China’s new hydrogen bomb aims to shock and awe Taiwan
New non-nuclear bomb’s high-temperature fireball and deadly shockwave anticipates urban warfare scenario in Taiwan
China's new hydrogen bomb aims to shock and awe Taiwan - Asia Times
China’s new non-nuclear hydrogen bomb is designed to unleash sustained firepower to terrorize Taiwan’s defenders and break their resistance in urban wars.
asiatimes.com
Meathead
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China 'Ready for War' With The US5 Mar 2025 ~~ By David Strom
China 'Ready for War' With The US
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Do you think that defending Ukraine is the existential battle for freedom in our lifetime?
I don't. Not that I want Vlad the Mad Putin to take over Ukraine, but the US faces much bigger problems than getting involved in a territorial dispute in a country with which we have almost no shared interests.
For over twenty years, presidents have talked about the "pivot to Asia" in US foreign policy, and for over 20 years that pivot never happened.
The reason for all that talk is simple: most of the action in the world economy touches Asia in some way, yet the region is not especially stable politically and militarily. China is an expansionist power, Russia is a player in the Pacific as well as Europe, and territorial disputes are more common there and much more important than in Europe.
China and the Philippines are in a lukewarm war over territorial disputes, and China's ambitions to retake Taiwan are coming to a head.
And now China declares that it is ready for war with the United States.
We all saw this coming. As the US economy became ever more intertwined with China, the Chinese ambition and capability to exercise economic and military power has grown even faster.
~Snip~
I don't expect hostilities to break out tomorrow, although the trade war is heating up already. But China has been expanding its military at an alarming rate, with the world's largest (but not most powerful) Navy, an anti-access area-denial umbrella of ballistic missiles, an increasingly capable air force, and bellicose policies against its neighbors.
~Snip~
War games have been worrying our military leaders, showing devastating losses for Americans in any conflict should it occur. As the US has had trouble remaking our military from one focused on small conflicts against ragtag terrorists to one ready to take on near-peer adversaries, China has been laser focused on building capabilities to take advantage of our long supply lines and reliance on carriers and fixed air bases to project power in the region.
This, more than even the humanitarian and fiscal incentives to end the Ukraine war, justifies Trump's hardball tactics in Europe. Our main adversary is China, and Xi Jinping is laying down the gauntlet.
Xi, it is said, wants to get Taiwan back before he exits the political scene. I can't see into his head to know that this is true, but if so war of some kind is inevitable.
And Xi is signaling he is ready.
Commentary:
The Chinese have been building their military for decades. Yet, like the North Koreans and Russians they continue to fight the last war.
Their human mass attacks are only fodder for cannon and drones.
In relation to China's readiness to fight. Everything looks great until the first shots are fired then reality kicks in... Every military leadership in history says the same thing until the first shots are fired and boots hit the ground. Russia found that out very quickly...
Donald Rumsfeld said, "You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.".
Sure they got lots of planes, ships and other machines of war. But how many seasoned fighter pilots and naval skippers do they have? How many pilots can do carrier landings and takeoffs? How well drilled are their crews?
Taiwan, however, has been preparing for attempted invasions for a long time, and watching with interest the goings on in Ukraine.
Then again China is looking at Manchuria and looking to take land from India.
Before Democrats turned the Russo-Ukraine war. into an endless war and their personal laundering piggy bank, back when it was still being fought out of pure desperation, the Ukrainians did some brilliant things with drones, land mines and defensive urban warfare. The text books have all been changed. And Taiwan has been taking notes.
I think it's important for all of us to remember how we got to this place. We got here in large measure because politicians and globalists facilitated the move of our industrial base overseas, and selling strategic technology to China while enriching themselves.
That is what Bill Clinton did by selling out the United States of America to the Chinese Communists.
While all in America were concerned about Bubba was getting his knob polished by an aide . The hell with their families who were going to be killed by the Communists so that he could make a dollar. China Gate was real and catastrophic to America.
Read more:
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Congress Investigating Sales of Satellite Technology to China (Published 1998)
Several Congressional committees investigate whether Clinton Administration's policy of exporting space satellite technology to China has helped China and other countries to develop and use nuclear missiles; inquiries were sparked by article in The New York Times disclosing Pentagon finding that...www.nytimes.com
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How China acquires ‘the crown jewels’ of U.S. technology
The U.S. fails to adequately police foreign deals for next-generation software that powers the military and American economic strength.www.politico.com
China is no where near ready to take on the US in a military conflict. They need at least 2 decades and that without US build up.
Stryder50
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"A much needed wake-up call that China assumes that it is open season on Americans." —Victor Davis Hanson
"There is a Red Storm rising in the East—and America is already under assault from the Chinese Communist Party." —Lou Dobbs
“THE EAST IS RISING AND THE WEST IS DECLINING” —Xi Jinping,
2020 Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, chairman of the Central Military Commission and the president of the People's Republic of China, wants to shape the world in China’s image, and in his conception of the world there is no place for the United States or even the current international order.
Noted China expert Gordon G. Chang warns that Xi Jinping believes he must destroy America to accomplish his objectives. And that Xi already has a plan to do it! Xi reveres Mao and is marching China back to Maoism. He is reinstituting totalitarian social controls, demanding absolute political obedience from everyone, and cutting foreign links. Closing China off from the world is an essential element of his plan to save the communist system. His isolationism and xenophobia evoke policies from the earliest years of the People’s Republic and during the two millennia of imperial rule.
And Xi can’t stop talking about war. More significantly, he is implementing the largest military buildup since the Second World War, he is trying to sanctions-proof the Chinese regime, he is stockpiling grain and other commodities, he is surveying America for strikes and sabotage, he is mobilizing China’s civilians for battle, and he is purging China’s military of officers opposed to going to war.
While America’s elite thinks their country is at peace, China’s regime is waging its brand of war. The Chinese regime has deliberately killed Americans in great numbers this century—with disease and in other ways—and it has a plan to destroy America. The communist party-state in fact believes it must eliminate the United States to ensure its own survival. And to accomplish its goals, the regime is now fast mobilizing to go to war. China is preparing to plunge the world into conflict.
In PLAN RED - China's Project to Destroy America; Chang shows China’s campaign against America excludes nothing and uses every point of contact with American society to destroy it. China has been attacking America FROM INSIDE America! China’s penetration of American society has been so thorough that the Communist Party has been able to kill Americans with impunity. Xi turned an in-country epidemic into a once-in-a-century pandemic.
This is the first time in history that one nation has attacked all the others. The Communist Party is using all its resources to support criminal activity in America, and Americans are dying as a direct result of those activities. Xi Jinping’s China is preparing to go to war. Not just “unrestricted war” or political war but “hot war” or “kinetic war,” in other words, war as Americans see it in the movies.
And China’s regime is planning to kill Americans in even greater numbers. It is marching the country to war. Americans, in the triumphalist mood after the fall of the Soviet Union, thought they should establish contacts with China. Now, the Chinese regime uses every point of contact against America, and at the moment the regime is overwhelming American institutions. The FBI is being overwhelmed, local law enforcement is being overwhelmed, governments at all levels are being overwhelmed, and private organizations are being overwhelmed.
After more than three decades of intensive “engagement,” it is clear Washington’s generous approach has failed. America has not changed China, as everyone now realizes; China has changed America.
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Plan Red: China's Project to Destroy America
"A much needed wake-up call that China assumes that it …
Part of Chang's section on America Defending itself includes breaking all ties with China. Excluding and expelling these students would be part of that. Admittedly, some may want to seek asylum and they should be considered. However, if they have any family or relatives still living in China this would put those lives at risk.
Stryder50
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Unrestricted Warfare: Two Air Force Senior Colonels on Scenarios for War and the Operational Art in an Era of Globalization<a href="Unrestricted Warfare - Wikipedia" is a book on military strategy written in 1999 by two colonels in the People's Liberation Army (PLA), Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui Its primary concern is how a nation such as China can defeat a technologically superior opponent (such as the United States) through a variety of means. Rather than focusing on direct military confrontation, this book instead examines a variety of other means such as political warfare. Such means include using legal tools (see lawfare) and economic means as leverage over one's opponent and circumvent the need for direct military action.
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A sobering and fascinating study on war in the modern era, Unrestricted Warfare carefully explores strategies that militarily and politically disadvantaged nations might take in order to successfully attack a geopolitical super-power like the United States. American military doctrine is typically led by technology; a new class of weapon or vehicle is developed, which allows or encourages an adjustment in strategy. Military strategists Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui argue that this dynamic is a crucial weakness in the American military, and that this blind spot with regard to alternative forms warfare could be effectively exploited by enemies. Unrestricted Warfare concerns the many ways in which this might occur, and, in turn, suggests what the United States might do to defend itself.
The traditional mentality that offensive action is limited to military action is no longer adequate given the range of contemporary threats and the rising costs-both in dollars and lives lost-of traditional warfare. Instead, Liang and Xiangsui suggest the significance of alternatives to direct military confrontation, including international policy, economic warfare, attacks on digital infrastructure and networks, and terrorism. Even a relatively insignificant state can incapacitate a far more powerful enemy by applying pressure to their economic and political systems. Exploring each of these considerations with remarkable insight and clarity, Unrestricted Warfare is an engaging evaluation of our geopolitical future.
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Unrestricted Warfare - Wikipedia
A sobering and fascinating study on war in the modern era, Unrestricted Warfare carefully explores strategies that militarily and politically disadvantaged nations might take in order to successfully attack a geopolitical super-power like the United States. American military doctrine is typically led by technology; a new class of weapon or vehicle is developed, which allows or encourages an adjustment in strategy. Military strategists Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui argue that this dynamic is a crucial weakness in the American military, and that this blind spot with regard to alternative forms warfare could be effectively exploited by enemies. Unrestricted Warfare concerns the many ways in which this might occur, and, in turn, suggests what the United States might do to defend itself.
The traditional mentality that offensive action is limited to military action is no longer adequate given the range of contemporary threats and the rising costs-both in dollars and lives lost-of traditional warfare. Instead, Liang and Xiangsui suggest the significance of alternatives to direct military confrontation, including international policy, economic warfare, attacks on digital infrastructure and networks, and terrorism. Even a relatively insignificant state can incapacitate a far more powerful enemy by applying pressure to their economic and political systems. Exploring each of these considerations with remarkable insight and clarity, Unrestricted Warfare is an engaging evaluation of our geopolitical future.
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Unrestricted Warfare: China's Master Plan to Destroy America
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Stryder50
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Review and summary (one page);
Unrestricted Warfare: China's Master Plan to Destroy America
PDF, full book @228 pages;Unrestricted Warfare - C4I
A disputing review;Unrestricted Warfare is Not China's Master Plan - Air University
Another recommending review;
Yep. They thought the same way about Japan back in 1941 and about Russia in 2014.
It depends. You know, Japan invented shallow-water torpedoes to destroy US Pacific Fleet laying on anchor in Pearl Harbour base.
Who knows, may be China already has a countermeasure against Ohio-class submarines? Like better sensors on their "fishing" fleet, good sat coms and better computing capability in China itself?
If they able to destroy by their first strike both Kitsap and Kingsbay naval bases plus up to six SSBNs in the ocean - the USA are deeply f#cked.
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Neither Russia nor the US will invade China.
It depends.
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No, it does not. That's a fool's gambit.
Failzero
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Large Scale invasions are no longer en vogue
In some hypothetical scenarios it might become necessary. You know - don't start the game you are not ready to finish. And only jackboots on the ground can make the final point.
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Invading China is not doable and to expect success.
Failzero
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But China invading Australia is doable ?
Yep. They are not en vogue during peacetime. But if we are talking about WWIII or even about significant regional war between Russia/China/USA (in any combinations) large scale invasions might become pretty fashionable.
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