China escalates the trade war

[Unkotare]

The Four Corners of the Market

China needs to double its fuel use in order to meet its economic goals. We and Russia can supply that. India will add a billion more customers for the Triumvirate.

China has a shit load of coal.

 

[sealybobo]

It's Chinese Nature to Kowtow

Have your Daddy get you into a financial Air National Guard. Then you can sit out the trade war and still reap its benefits.

I'm too fat to fight in Trump's army

 

[sealybobo]

That's like saying anyone who doesn't buy a new car in cash in full, cash on the barrel head "can't afford a car."


Not to mention buying a house.

No it's not like that at all. This is just you arguing for the sake of arguing.

YES Unkotare, I guess you "CAN AFFORD" to take out $25K a year in student loans x 4 years. YES, I can technically afford it". If I pay the minimum payment after I'm done and start paying back my student loans, how many years will it take me? And I guess I can afford it while also buying a home and having 2.5 kids. Yes, I guess I can afford it I just might have to go into debt.

I paid my way through college because it was $5K a year. Worked all summer, saved every dime, and even then my dad had to help a little. I worked while going to school so I would have spending money. So back then, I could afford to finish in 4 years.

If I went to school today, being as poor as you are now, I would probably go to a community college before going to a 4 year university. Back then I also got a scholarship but I lost it when I quit the wrestling team.

Anyways, long story short is that you don't NEED to graduate in 4 years. If you don't want to graduate with debt, take 8 years to graduate. I was only 17 when I went off to college so I would be 25 when I finished. But I'd be debt free.

Any other stupid questions you need explaining?

The problem is these people are never going to be able to afford to retire because of the student loans, mortgage, kids, shitty pay, rising cost of healthcare, etc.

 

[Unkotare]

Nobody is forced to buy a $50,000 car.

Nobody is forced to buy a $1 million house.

Getting an undergrad degree in 8 years as opposed to 4 is much more expensive when you factor in opportunity cost.

 

[g5000]

The only thing they have in common is that they're all Totalitarian in nature.

Which makes them a natural fit for Trump.

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socialism is the ownership of the Means of Production by the Proletariat.

You must be pretty upset Trump has been nationalizing corporations, right?

Right?

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[sealybobo]

Nobody is forced to buy a $50,000 car.

Nobody is forced to buy a $1 million house.

Getting an undergrad degree in 8 years as opposed to 4 is much more expensive when you factor in opportunity cost.

Now consider you graduate college with a huge loan and you don't want to live in your parents basement. No one forced you to move out and pay rent. Thus putting off the down payment you need for your first home.

But I feel you. I get your point.

Also consider being a full time student just isn't an option for everyone. Taking 2 classes a semester and working might be the only option for some. Unless you're saying **** it take out the student loan and go back to school like Rodney Dangerfield did. I just can't believe going into debt and graduating in 4 years is better than taking 8 years to finish but doing it debt free

The average federal student loan debt in the U.S. is approximately $39,375 as of the third quarter of 2025. The average total student loan debt, including private loans, could be as high as $42,673. The median student loan debt is lower, around $20,000-$24,999, meaning half of all borrowers owe less and half owe more.

So let's call it $25K the average student owes finishing in 4 years. I suppose wasting 4 more years to avoid $25K is a bit short sighted.

YOU WIN!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That's like saying anyone who doesn't buy a new car in cash in full, cash on the barrel head "can't afford a car."


Not to mention buying a house.

Pay off the student debt by confiscating trust funds. The only reason plebeian students have to pay tuition is that it gives an overpowering psychological and social advantage to those whose Daddies pay everything for them, from cradle to grave.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Nobody is forced to buy a $50,000 car.

Nobody is forced to buy a $1 million house.

Getting an undergrad degree in 8 years as opposed to 4 is much more expensive when you factor in opportunity cost.

The only realistic car analogy is the driver paying for the car he uses for making deliveries for his boss. Quit pretending that education only benefits the student, as if he had majored in something self-employable like casino gambling.

Same with the house, college chump living in his company's warehouse, which he paid for.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No it's not like that at all. This is just you arguing for the sake of arguing.

YES Unkotare, I guess you "CAN AFFORD" to take out $25K a year in student loans x 4 years. YES, I can technically afford it". If I pay the minimum payment after I'm done and start paying back my student loans, how many years will it take me? And I guess I can afford it while also buying a home and having 2.5 kids. Yes, I guess I can afford it I just might have to go into debt.

I paid my way through college because it was $5K a year. Worked all summer, saved every dime, and even then my dad had to help a little. I worked while going to school so I would have spending money. So back then, I could afford to finish in 4 years.

If I went to school today, being as poor as you are now, I would probably go to a community college before going to a 4 year university. Back then I also got a scholarship but I lost it when I quit the wrestling team.

Anyways, long story short is that you don't NEED to graduate in 4 years. If you don't want to graduate with debt, take 8 years to graduate. I was only 17 when I went off to college so I would be 25 when I finished. But I'd be debt free.

Any other stupid questions you need explaining?

The problem is these people are never going to be able to afford to retire because of the student loans, mortgage, kids, shitty pay, rising cost of healthcare, etc.

Justifies stealing money from your employer, who freeloaded off your education

 

[Unkotare]

Pay off the student debt by confiscating trust funds. The only reason plebeian students have to pay tuition is that it gives an overpowering psychological and social advantage to those whose Daddies pay everything for them, from cradle to grave.

Broken record AGAIN ^^^^^

 

[Nobody911]

I am somewhat optimistic about the trade war. In fact, it seems to be part of the world domination game. National security agencies know how to deal with the Chinese Communist Party!

An example down below...

U.S. Strategy to Counterbalance China's Regional Influence

Economic Containment Approach

The United States is actively working to counterbalance China's influence in Southeast Asia through a multi-pronged strategy that focuses on:

1. Trade Agreements and Economic Partnerships

• Signing bilateral trade deals with ASEAN countries
• Providing alternative economic opportunities to China's Belt and Road Initiative
• Offering preferential market access and reduced tariffs

2. Diplomatic Engagement

• Strengthening bilateral and multilateral relationships
• Supporting regional security arrangements
• Offering diplomatic interventions in regional conflicts

Key Strategic Motivations

• Prevent China from becoming the dominant economic and geopolitical power in Southeast Asia
• Maintain freedom of navigation in the South China Sea
• Provide economic alternatives to Chinese infrastructure and investment projects

Specific Tactics

Economic Measures

• Targeted trade agreements with Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia
• Focusing on critical minerals and rare earth element trade
• Offering market access without strict political conditions

Diplomatic Initiatives

• Supporting ASEAN countries' sovereignty
• Countering China's "gray zone" tactics in the South China Sea
• Creating alternative investment and infrastructure development options

Regional Sentiment

Interestingly, a 2024 ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute survey showed a majority of regional elites would initially align with China if forced to choose. However, the 2025 poll showed a modest rebound in U.S. standing, indicating the effectiveness of recent U.S. diplomatic and economic efforts.

Long-term Strategic Goal

The ultimate objective is to prevent China from reshaping the international order in Southeast Asia, maintaining a free and open Indo-Pacific region. This involves:

• Economic engagement
• Security partnerships
• Diplomatic support for regional sovereignty
• Providing economic alternatives to Chinese investments

The strategy represents a comprehensive approach to maintaining U.S. influence in a critically important geopolitical region, addressing economic, diplomatic, and security dimensions simultaneously.

sources:

1. Economics is security: Building US strategy in Southeast Asia | Brookings

2. https://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News...-us-defense-strategy-with-southeast-asias-ge/

 

[sealybobo]

Because politicians and industry leaders in the West failed to protect their nations vital interests China now has us at s disadvantage

We no long produce the necessary products needed to keep our country running thanks to globalist morons wjo sold America and our allies out

What have I been telling you guys?

Paul Krugman Warns How Trump ‘Will Make Americans Measurably Poorer’

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

www.huffpost.com

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

“It was a rules-based system, in which everyone considered the U.S. a reliable, trustworthy partner,” he noted. “But now US economic relations with other nations have turned abusive, and the world is moving toward divorce.”

The outcome?
It “will make Americans measurably poorer,”

I told you all these countries that we trade with and Trump is bullying, they are going to "DIVORCE" us!

Krugman’s analysis followed the striking of a free trade agreement between India and the European Union. It demonstrated how “countries are moving, step by step, toward an economic divorce from America.”

It also came, in a further sign of nations distancing themselves from America under Trump, with China and Britain agreeing to increase cooperation

 

[westwall]

What have I been telling you guys?

Paul Krugman Warns How Trump ‘Will Make Americans Measurably Poorer’

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

www.huffpost.com

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

“It was a rules-based system, in which everyone considered the U.S. a reliable, trustworthy partner,” he noted. “But now US economic relations with other nations have turned abusive, and the world is moving toward divorce.”

The outcome?
It “will make Americans measurably poorer,”

I told you all these countries that we trade with and Trump is bullying, they are going to "DIVORCE" us!

Krugman’s analysis followed the striking of a free trade agreement between India and the European Union. It demonstrated how “countries are moving, step by step, toward an economic divorce from America.”

It also came, in a further sign of nations distancing themselves from America under Trump, with China and Britain agreeing to increase cooperation

Krugman, the dumbass who's been wrong on everything? That fool?

 

[Dorian Mode]

Krugman, the dumbass who's been wrong on everything? That fool?

Krugman is a globalist shill who represents the globalists that despise Trump because he doesn't give them everything they want. America is now preparing for a multi-polar world and is doing what is necessary to make sure that China does not achieve the status of sole world superpower. That being said, I think the first rule of geopolitics is to not believe a word the globalists, and the left that worships them, say. They all have an agenda that does not favor America.

 

[sealybobo]

Krugman, the dumbass who's been wrong on everything? That fool?

It's obvious. Can't you see it? Of course not you're a Notsee.

You dumb son of a *****! The entire planet is conspiring against us now that Trump is in office. He's trying to bully our trading partners and they are all looking for new partners. Geez are you guys ******* stupid.

Trump accuses Xi of conspiring against the U.S. with Putin and Kim at China military parade​

“Please give my warmest regards to Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against The United States of America,” Trump said in a Truth Social post directed at the Chinese leader.

Japan and China hate each other

In October 2025, Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi and Chinese President Xi Jinping held a summit, agreeing to build "constructive and stable" relations despite ongoing tensions over Taiwan, maritime disputes, and trade

In late 2025, Chinese President Xi Jinping met with leaders from Japan and other nations at the APEC summit to defend multilateralism and free trade amidst escalating tariffs from the United States

Trump bankrupted how many companies? You're a ******* IDIOT!

 

[westwall]

It's obvious. Can't you see it? Of course not you're a Notsee.

You dumb son of a *****! The entire planet is conspiring against us now that Trump is in office. He's trying to bully our trading partners and they are all looking for new partners. Geez are you guys ******* stupid.

Trump accuses Xi of conspiring against the U.S. with Putin and Kim at China military parade​

“Please give my warmest regards to Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against The United States of America,” Trump said in a Truth Social post directed at the Chinese leader.

Japan and China hate each other

In October 2025, Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi and Chinese President Xi Jinping held a summit, agreeing to build "constructive and stable" relations despite ongoing tensions over Taiwan, maritime disputes, and trade

In late 2025, Chinese President Xi Jinping met with leaders from Japan and other nations at the APEC summit to defend multilateralism and free trade amidst escalating tariffs from the United States

Trump bankrupted how many companies? You're a ******* IDIOT!

The idiot is the fool, YOU, who listens to a moron like krugman

 

[sartre play]

What have I been telling you guys?

Paul Krugman Warns How Trump ‘Will Make Americans Measurably Poorer’

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

www.huffpost.com

The renowned economist explained how "the world is moving toward divorce" from the United States.

“It was a rules-based system, in which everyone considered the U.S. a reliable, trustworthy partner,” he noted. “But now US economic relations with other nations have turned abusive, and the world is moving toward divorce.”

The outcome?
It “will make Americans measurably poorer,”

I told you all these countries that we trade with and Trump is bullying, they are going to "DIVORCE" us!

Krugman’s analysis followed the striking of a free trade agreement between India and the European Union. It demonstrated how “countries are moving, step by step, toward an economic divorce from America.”

It also came, in a further sign of nations distancing themselves from America under Trump, with China and Britain agreeing to increase cooperation

SEEMS to be true. NEW trade agreement between India & European UNION. are we being shunned ?

 

[sealybobo]

The idiot is the fool, YOU, who listens to a moron like krugman

No the idiot is you who listened to Charlie Kirk.

 

[westwall]

No the idiot is you who listened to Charlie Kirk.

Poor little infant. One day you will grow up.

But by then it will be too late.

 

[sealybobo]

Poor little infant. One day you will grow up.

But by then it will be too late.

Charlie Kirk didn't get a chance to wake up. You do.