Children At What Age

[Sonny Clark]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

 

[ScienceRocks]

At age should we teach our children that looting and burning down peoples property is wrong?

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think we should start teaching morality and right & wrong very early. Looting, stealing and trashing peoples property is WRONG.

 

[Sonny Clark]

At age should we teach our children that looting and burning down peoples property is wrong?

At a very young age.

 

[Sonny Clark]

I think we should start teaching morality and right & wrong very early. Looting, stealing and trashing peoples property is WRONG.

It's never too early to teach them right from wrong.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

At age should we teach our children that looting and burning down peoples property is wrong?

Depends. Are we walking about your home, or my home?

 

[Sonny Clark]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

I think it could, and can, be done with or without religion. Yes, religion does come into play, but it's the basics and foundation of right and wrong that should be taught. Not all practice a religion, and some that don't, raise children. I would also argue that Christianity is not the only belief that can negatively influence children, or adults for that matter.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

I think it could, and can, be done with or without religion. Yes, religion does come into play, but it's the basics and foundation of right and wrong that should be taught. Not all practice a religion, and some that don't, raise children. I would also argue that Christianity is not the only belief that can negatively influence children, or adults for that matter.

Christianity influences every facet of US life despite not being 'official' state religion. Look at the censorship of tv now vs just 20 years ago. Our courts debate over gay marriage is entirely due to Christian standards. But for religion, there is no objection to gay marriage. Have old VHS tapes of cable tv with nudity and sex on them (before I got DSL heh.) Compare 'Skinimax' 20 years ago to today and there's a HUGE difference in what they can show. Even regular commercial tv used to show a LOT more than it does now. Some Spanish-language channel back in California comes to mind with a fully nude woman (though shot from clever angles so you couldn't see much.)

Because of Christianity, you can't show 'good guys' smoking on tv any more. Anyone who smokes in a tv-rating of less than 'MA' has to be a 'bad guy.'

"Censors come off as pretty lax when it comes to anything that isn't excessively gruesome or explicit. One notable exception is broadcasters seeming squeamish about showing under-age characters smoking tobacco (even delinquents) especially if the show is aimed at a school-age audience. Occasionally this is changed to chewing something.

The same can hold for under-age drinking, unless it's accidental. This gag used to be popular in the United States until Media Watchdogs cracked down on theatrical cartoons.

One anecdote claims that only R.A.T.s (Russians, Arabs and Terrorists) are permitted to smoke in Hollywood movies. Some extend this to the French as well (R.A.F.T.s). In short, exotic villains are allowed to smoke.

Modern U.S. law dictates in what instances cigarette smoking may appear, coming down hardest on animation or other programming intended for minors. For versions meant for broadcast before the Watershed in the U.S., this trope is mandated. This can also mean that DVD versions culled straight from the broadcast version also have this trope in effect. Strangely, the law is more vague on cigar and pipe smoking; how much those are edited can vary."
No Smoking - TV Tropes

Smoking didn't used to be a moral issue and was depicted freely. Christian moralists (I believe) want a complete ban of tobacco in the US and are working towards that goal) have gotten smoking largely off tv and out of movies (most of the cast, and all the leads of the Twilight movies smoke ciggies by the by.) They've done this by claiming their objections are out of concern for health. But that's a smokescreen, pardon the pun. Even though there's nothing in the Bible about smoking anything, fundamentalists make things up freely claiming it's godly or religiously-inspired.

 

[Sonny Clark]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

I think it could, and can, be done with or without religion. Yes, religion does come into play, but it's the basics and foundation of right and wrong that should be taught. Not all practice a religion, and some that don't, raise children. I would also argue that Christianity is not the only belief that can negatively influence children, or adults for that matter.

Christianity influences every facet of US life despite not being 'official' state religion. Look at the censorship of tv now vs just 20 years ago. Our courts debate over gay marriage is entirely due to Christian standards. But for religion, there is no objection to gay marriage. Have old VHS tapes of cable tv with nudity and sex on them (before I got DSL heh.) Compare 'Skinimax' 20 years ago to today and there's a HUGE difference in what they can show. Even regular commercial tv used to show a LOT more than it does now. Some Spanish-language channel back in California comes to mind with a fully nude woman (though shot from clever angles so you couldn't see much.)

Because of Christianity, you can't show 'good guys' smoking on tv any more. Anyone who smokes in a tv-rating of less than 'MA' has to be a 'bad guy.'

"Censors come off as pretty lax when it comes to anything that isn't excessively gruesome or explicit. One notable exception is broadcasters seeming squeamish about showing under-age characters smoking tobacco (even delinquents) especially if the show is aimed at a school-age audience. Occasionally this is changed to chewing something.

The same can hold for under-age drinking, unless it's accidental. This gag used to be popular in the United States until Media Watchdogs cracked down on theatrical cartoons.

One anecdote claims that only R.A.T.s (Russians, Arabs and Terrorists) are permitted to smoke in Hollywood movies. Some extend this to the French as well (R.A.F.T.s). In short, exotic villains are allowed to smoke.

Modern U.S. law dictates in what instances cigarette smoking may appear, coming down hardest on animation or other programming intended for minors. For versions meant for broadcast before the Watershed in the U.S., this trope is mandated. This can also mean that DVD versions culled straight from the broadcast version also have this trope in effect. Strangely, the law is more vague on cigar and pipe smoking; how much those are edited can vary."
No Smoking - TV Tropes

Smoking didn't used to be a moral issue and was depicted freely. Christian moralists (I believe) want a complete ban of tobacco in the US and are working towards that goal) have gotten smoking largely off tv and out of movies (most of the cast, and all the leads of the Twilight movies smoke ciggies by the by.) They've done this by claiming their objections are out of concern for health. But that's a smokescreen, pardon the pun. Even though there's nothing in the Bible about smoking anything, fundamentalists make things up freely claiming it's godly or religiously-inspired.

Why wasn't those issues a concern before recent history? How long has Christianity been around? How long have moral issues been debated? Most of what you've listed is as much political issues as they are religious issues.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

I think it could, and can, be done with or without religion. Yes, religion does come into play, but it's the basics and foundation of right and wrong that should be taught. Not all practice a religion, and some that don't, raise children. I would also argue that Christianity is not the only belief that can negatively influence children, or adults for that matter.

Christianity influences every facet of US life despite not being 'official' state religion. Look at the censorship of tv now vs just 20 years ago. Our courts debate over gay marriage is entirely due to Christian standards. But for religion, there is no objection to gay marriage. Have old VHS tapes of cable tv with nudity and sex on them (before I got DSL heh.) Compare 'Skinimax' 20 years ago to today and there's a HUGE difference in what they can show. Even regular commercial tv used to show a LOT more than it does now. Some Spanish-language channel back in California comes to mind with a fully nude woman (though shot from clever angles so you couldn't see much.)

Because of Christianity, you can't show 'good guys' smoking on tv any more. Anyone who smokes in a tv-rating of less than 'MA' has to be a 'bad guy.'

"Censors come off as pretty lax when it comes to anything that isn't excessively gruesome or explicit. One notable exception is broadcasters seeming squeamish about showing under-age characters smoking tobacco (even delinquents) especially if the show is aimed at a school-age audience. Occasionally this is changed to chewing something.

The same can hold for under-age drinking, unless it's accidental. This gag used to be popular in the United States until Media Watchdogs cracked down on theatrical cartoons.

One anecdote claims that only R.A.T.s (Russians, Arabs and Terrorists) are permitted to smoke in Hollywood movies. Some extend this to the French as well (R.A.F.T.s). In short, exotic villains are allowed to smoke.

Modern U.S. law dictates in what instances cigarette smoking may appear, coming down hardest on animation or other programming intended for minors. For versions meant for broadcast before the Watershed in the U.S., this trope is mandated. This can also mean that DVD versions culled straight from the broadcast version also have this trope in effect. Strangely, the law is more vague on cigar and pipe smoking; how much those are edited can vary."
No Smoking - TV Tropes

Smoking didn't used to be a moral issue and was depicted freely. Christian moralists (I believe) want a complete ban of tobacco in the US and are working towards that goal) have gotten smoking largely off tv and out of movies (most of the cast, and all the leads of the Twilight movies smoke ciggies by the by.) They've done this by claiming their objections are out of concern for health. But that's a smokescreen, pardon the pun. Even though there's nothing in the Bible about smoking anything, fundamentalists make things up freely claiming it's godly or religiously-inspired.

Why wasn't those issues a concern before recent history? How long has Christianity been around? How long have moral issues been debated? Most of what you've listed is as much political issues as they are religious issues.

Only political because the religious types have made it so. 'Do this like we want or else we encourage our members to give you the finger one elction day' for example.

 

[Sonny Clark]

At what age should we teach financial responsibility to children?
At what age should we teach social values and morality to children?
At what age should we teach government and politics to children?

Are we allowing our children to learn "life" through seeing and experiencing it, or are we teaching and guiding them as they age? Are most of our social ills the result of adults not teaching and guiding our children?

Majority of social ills properly get laid at the feet of Christianity. It's not a 'good' religion, especially if a woman or anyone not into it. It denies, rejects, and suppresses human nature, teaches submission to itself and a 'if you're not with us, you're against us' mentality, 'be good just to be rewarded' instead of 'be good because being good IS good,' and basicly says that not until billions die and the world ends will things get any better. That's not a religion to raise kids with, that's a doomsday cult.

I think it could, and can, be done with or without religion. Yes, religion does come into play, but it's the basics and foundation of right and wrong that should be taught. Not all practice a religion, and some that don't, raise children. I would also argue that Christianity is not the only belief that can negatively influence children, or adults for that matter.

Christianity influences every facet of US life despite not being 'official' state religion. Look at the censorship of tv now vs just 20 years ago. Our courts debate over gay marriage is entirely due to Christian standards. But for religion, there is no objection to gay marriage. Have old VHS tapes of cable tv with nudity and sex on them (before I got DSL heh.) Compare 'Skinimax' 20 years ago to today and there's a HUGE difference in what they can show. Even regular commercial tv used to show a LOT more than it does now. Some Spanish-language channel back in California comes to mind with a fully nude woman (though shot from clever angles so you couldn't see much.)

Because of Christianity, you can't show 'good guys' smoking on tv any more. Anyone who smokes in a tv-rating of less than 'MA' has to be a 'bad guy.'

"Censors come off as pretty lax when it comes to anything that isn't excessively gruesome or explicit. One notable exception is broadcasters seeming squeamish about showing under-age characters smoking tobacco (even delinquents) especially if the show is aimed at a school-age audience. Occasionally this is changed to chewing something.

The same can hold for under-age drinking, unless it's accidental. This gag used to be popular in the United States until Media Watchdogs cracked down on theatrical cartoons.

One anecdote claims that only R.A.T.s (Russians, Arabs and Terrorists) are permitted to smoke in Hollywood movies. Some extend this to the French as well (R.A.F.T.s). In short, exotic villains are allowed to smoke.

Modern U.S. law dictates in what instances cigarette smoking may appear, coming down hardest on animation or other programming intended for minors. For versions meant for broadcast before the Watershed in the U.S., this trope is mandated. This can also mean that DVD versions culled straight from the broadcast version also have this trope in effect. Strangely, the law is more vague on cigar and pipe smoking; how much those are edited can vary."
No Smoking - TV Tropes

Smoking didn't used to be a moral issue and was depicted freely. Christian moralists (I believe) want a complete ban of tobacco in the US and are working towards that goal) have gotten smoking largely off tv and out of movies (most of the cast, and all the leads of the Twilight movies smoke ciggies by the by.) They've done this by claiming their objections are out of concern for health. But that's a smokescreen, pardon the pun. Even though there's nothing in the Bible about smoking anything, fundamentalists make things up freely claiming it's godly or religiously-inspired.

Why wasn't those issues a concern before recent history? How long has Christianity been around? How long have moral issues been debated? Most of what you've listed is as much political issues as they are religious issues.

Only political because the religious types have made it so. 'Do this like we want or else we encourage our members to give you the finger one elction day' for example.

I disagree. Smoking is not a religious issue. Smoking has been around for over a thousand years, and among many Christians. Smoking is a political and tax issue. Drinking has been around for thousands of years, and Christians are drinkers and alcoholics. But, so are many others that practice different beliefs. Porn has been around for thousands of years also, and many of different beliefs engage in it, and enjoy it. Yes, I agree that to a certain extent, some faiths, beliefs, strongly influence laws and policies. But, it's not always Christians that raise issues.