Chicago concealed carry gun owner kills robber...

[Iron Head]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

You are so ass backward in your analysis that most reasonably informed bystanders could conclude that you are ******* retarded.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

But... but... he shot my BABY!!!!!!!

Pretty much...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

You are so ass backward in your analysis that most reasonably informed bystanders could conclude that you are ******* retarded.

Money is worth killing someone over? Care to try again?

 

[Dan Daly]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

 

[Iron Head]

Well, he got away with the criminal part. Now time for the civil suit, for wrongful death. Killing a guy with paintball gun, see you in court...


Man with concealed carry license who killed attempted robber won't be charged
Man with concealed carry license who killed attempted robber won't be charged

And, once again, you're dreaming. The family will have a hell of a hard time finding an attorney to take this case. And if they do they will lose. The shooter will end up owning the lawyers because the lawyer will lose the counter malicious prosecution case. You really are a one trick pony aren't you.... You truly have no clue how the real world works.

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

 

[Meathead]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

You are so ass backward in your analysis that most reasonably informed bystanders could conclude that you are ******* retarded.

Money is worth killing someone over? Care to try again?

Guys like the deceased would kill a man for $10. He's dead and gone and no lawyer is going to waste his time prosecuting or suing anyone.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

I would kill for less? Nope.

 

[Dan Daly]

Yes..another shooting for Chicago concealed carry permit holders......one day the criminals will get the point that democrats can no longer disarm the victims of crime...the victims can finally shoot back...

AP News - Police: Concealed carry license holder kills armed gunman

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago police say a customer with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed man attempting to rob a neighborhood store.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said a masked man walked into the store and currency exchange about 7 p.m. Saturday on the city's southwest side, displayed a handgun and announced a robbery to an employ

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

I would kill for less? Nope.

Liar...you forget, people do sometimes read the BS you post in here. Of course if you'd like to admit that we can't trust your words, have at it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

You are so ass backward in your analysis that most reasonably informed bystanders could conclude that you are ******* retarded.

Money is worth killing someone over? Care to try again?

Guys like the deceased would kill a man for $10. He's dead and gone and no lawyer is going to waste his time prosecuting or suing anyone.

He never killed, or even hurt as far as I can tell, anyone in his life. And if his family wants to sue, they won't have trouble getting someone to take the case...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Didn't know that robbery was a capital offense? Interesting.

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

I would kill for less? Nope.

Liar...you forget, people do sometimes read the BS you post in here. Of course if you'd like to admit that we can't trust your words, have at it.

Link it? TY...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Well, he got away with the criminal part. Now time for the civil suit, for wrongful death. Killing a guy with paintball gun, see you in court...


Man with concealed carry license who killed attempted robber won't be charged
Man with concealed carry license who killed attempted robber won't be charged

And, once again, you're dreaming. The family will have a hell of a hard time finding an attorney to take this case. And if they do they will lose. The shooter will end up owning the lawyers because the lawyer will lose the counter malicious prosecution case. You really are a one trick pony aren't you.... You truly have no clue how the real world works.

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

it's now a Civil Case, dumbass.

 

[Meathead]

And, once again, you're dreaming. The family will have a hell of a hard time finding an attorney to take this case. And if they do they will lose. The shooter will end up owning the lawyers because the lawyer will lose the counter malicious prosecution case. You really are a one trick pony aren't you.... You truly have no clue how the real world works.

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

it's now a Civil Case, dumbass.

Good luck with that. A pauper's burial is the best he'll get.

 

[Iron Head]

And, once again, you're dreaming. The family will have a hell of a hard time finding an attorney to take this case. And if they do they will lose. The shooter will end up owning the lawyers because the lawyer will lose the counter malicious prosecution case. You really are a one trick pony aren't you.... You truly have no clue how the real world works.

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

it's now a Civil Case, dumbass.

Apparently there is a disconnect between us. I bet you get that a lot, eh?

 

[Meathead]

A customer in the store withdrew his own weapon and fired at the suspect, Guglielmi said. Other customers were in the business at the time, but authorities could not immediately say how many.

Reginald Gildersleeve, 55, of the 5000 block of South California was shot multiple times and pronounced dead at the scene at 7:10 p.m., according to police and the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

Guglielmi said Gildersleeve had an extensive criminal history, including prior arrests for robbery.

The person who shot Gildersleeve has a concealed carry permit and a FOID card, Guglielmi said.

Area Central detectives are wrapping up the investigation and charges “do not appear likely,” according to a statement from Chicago police.

 

[Dan Daly]

It isn't if you survive the attempt. Moral of the story, if you don't want to get shot, don't attempt to rob people by threatening them with a gun, real or otherwise. Simple.

Based on your boasts in here, you wouldn't have handled this any differently than the survivor did. Or do you want to tell us that you would have wet your pants and handed over your wet wallet, while on your knees begging for your life of course. Didn't think so. Check and mate, you are dismissed.

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

I would kill for less? Nope.

Liar...you forget, people do sometimes read the BS you post in here. Of course if you'd like to admit that we can't trust your words, have at it.

Link it? TY...

Don't have to...you know what you have said, as do those who have read your tripe. You might think this is some popularity contest or college debate, but I am just plain calling you a ******* liar. Prove me wrong or deal with it, wussy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Area Central detectives are wrapping up the investigation and charges “do not appear likely,” according to a statement from Chicago police.

Why is that?
The codification of the right to self-defense in IL law.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

it's now a Civil Case, dumbass.

Apparently there is a disconnect between us. I bet you get that a lot, eh?

On here with all you morons, oh yeah.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Money is never worth a human life. Clear enough?

Liar...you would kill for less...you have said as much.

But thus isn't about money...if you threaten people with deadly force, don't be ******* surprised if deadly force is used to stop you. End of story. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the dirt nap, slimeballs.

I would kill for less? Nope.

Liar...you forget, people do sometimes read the BS you post in here. Of course if you'd like to admit that we can't trust your words, have at it.

Link it? TY...

Don't have to...you know what you have said, as do those who have read your tripe. You might think this is some popularity contest or college debate, but I am just plain calling you a ******* liar. Prove me wrong or deal with it, wussy.

So, you can't back up what you say? Typical...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Finding a lawyer for this will take thirty seconds. Proving that the threat wasn't real won't be that hard. Now, had he been robbing the guy who shot him, that would have taken some effort.

Bullshit. Lawyers do not like to work for free. Given that this would be on a contingency fee basis and the descendent' death came in the middle of an armed ******* robbery perpetrated by him, there is no way in hell that there will be a payday.

Besides, the one to go after would be the store since they probably carry liability coverage. The shooter may or may not have assets, though he will be joined as a necessary party. Nonetheless, the insurance carrier will fight this tooth or nail given the absurdity of any such claim. Imagine, a wrongful death suit for the death of a violent felon shit during the course of a violent act started by him! Plaintiffs counsel will be disbarred!

You seem to have missed the fact that in our legal system you can indict a ham sandwich. I believe this was a wrongful death, that is what the jury will be told and it's up to them after that.

Yes, it is easy to indict. This is such a shit case to prosecute the DA has decided not to even charge and present it to a grand jury lest he be embarrassed by failing to get a true bill in this case.

You are about half as smart as a ham sandwich, asshole.

it's now a Civil Case, dumbass.

Good luck with that. A pauper's burial is the best he'll get.

He has a family, who will sue.

 

[westwall]

I guess you either missed, or ignored this part eh. I highlighted it for you....


IL law:
(720 ILCS 5/Art. 7 heading) ARTICLE 7. JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE; EXONERATION
(720 ILCS 5/7-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-1)
Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.
720 ILCS 5/ Criminal Code of 2012.

Robbers want cash, not bodies. That's why the policy of all major chains is hand it over and don't try to play the hero. But I know, you guys like dead *******...

Some robbers also want to murder the clerks for no reason other than they are assholes. Dutch Bros has a policy of non interference. One of their guys got robbed so he shot the perp. Guess what, he still has a job. Looks like you lose again...


"EUGENE — The barista who fatally shot a would-be robber at a Dutch Bros. coffee kiosk in Eugene on Nov. 24 broke company rules by taking a gun to work, but he’ll be welcomed back if and when he’s ready to return to the job, the company’s top executive says.

Travis Boersma, of Grants Pass, whose drive-through coffee chain includes more than 150 locations in five states, told The Register-Guard that he supports the employee for defending himself during the robbery attempt.

“Under this unique circumstance, the (barista) who went through this horrific event did everything to protect his own life,” Boersma said."
Barista who shot robber still has a job, boss says

A rare exception, and a stupid one. Pull anything like that at one of 35,000 7-11s and you are gone, even if you survive. Money is never worth a human life BTW, never.

And yet in a NOTORIOUSLY liberal college town the OVERWHELMING support was for the company to do just that. Ooops! You lose again. Face it silly person, even the liberals think you're a loon!

If I'm a loon how come that was their policy just like it's the policy of every other major chain? Care to try again?

A policy, that they chose to ignore.