Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University

[eagle7-31]

I don't know if you've been paying attention but we're currently under one party control.

Don't you like it?!??

We still have 2 parties and a handful of minor ones. I said ONE PARTY STATE. Meaning only 1 party allowed to exist.

 

[Lisa558]

why would we have a source yet, no one is captured yet. I don't make accusations without evidence. I only know this was a political assassination, since it was one shot, a kill shot and then gone.

I’m afraid they won’t get him. He was wearing a mask, has changed his clothes, and is probably halfway to Canada by now.

He already had his escape path planned out, with fellow vile leftists providing him shelter and food stops.

 

[citygator]

There is it.....what a huge number over 10 years.

But all lives matter.

Then outlaw cars and plans and pools and electricity and ladders and whatever else people get killed on.

I am sure the people of their district cared a great deal.

Kirk's community was much larger, as was his influence.

Your receipts are good for wiping my ass.

You just discounted 440 deaths as meaning nothing but want to say the world is falling apart over this 1 death? I really cant follow MAGA logic. It cant even hold up from the beginning of your sentence to the end of it without contradicting itself.

 

[jc456]

What? Now the anti-Israel poster is blaming the Jews for Kirk’s murder?

the fact he is accusing is evidence of demofk disinformation at any expense at any time.

 

[HikerGuy83]

This thread is about political killings.

This thread is about Charlie Kirk being shot at an event where he was practicing what he preached....keeping dialogue open to avoid violence.

You need to make it about political killings because you don't see the sackcloth and ashes you think needs to happen over school shootings. Stop making stuff up.

I was told up thread they are worse than school shootings of kids because of the threat to our freedoms.

Since when do you listen to anything or anyone except when it is convenient for you. You've also been told a lot of other things which you don't seem to listen to.

However, I am willing to talk about the political killings (which are overwhelmingly right wing - 75%) or school shootings (which are overwhelmingly straight males 97%) or all killings (which are overwhelmingly men using a gun - 88%).

Yeah.....terrible statistic. It involved 444 people over 10 years. Sorry....can't really get to excited about that. And if I lived in parts of Chicago, I'd be ROTFLMAO.

But you keep pushing it. I realize it's about all you have.

Charlie Kirk, a man who attempted to keep the dialogue going (via open debate) was killed. He was the leader of a large organization and was very charismatic.

So people are upset. And apparently that upsets you.

Get over it.

 

[jc456]

You just discounted 440 deaths as meaning nothing but want to say the world is falling apart over this 1 death? I really cant follow MAGA logic. It cant even hold up from the beginning of your sentence to the end of it without contradicting itself.

yet demofks ignore the deaths of blacks in demofk cities. Let's take the facts where they belong. Back to Kirk.

 

[citygator]

why would we have a source yet, no one is captured yet. I don't make accusations without evidence. I only know this was a political assassination, since it was one shot, a kill shot and then gone.

Our exchange was on political murders. Keep up. I posted a chart, cited the source, and you called it disinformation. I assume that meant you had a better source of political murder counts that contradicted what I posted. I guess not. You must just know in your gut.

 

[jc456]

This thread is about political killings. I was told up thread they are worse than school shootings of kids because of the threat to our freedoms.

However, I am willing to talk about the political killings (which are overwhelmingly right wing - 75%) or school shootings (which are overwhelmingly straight males 97%) or all killings (which are overwhelmingly men using a gun - 88%).

derailing a thread to shut it down off topic.

 

[Lisa558]

MLK was an alcoholic grifter who fleeced the flock at his church to pay for lavish parties with blonde prostitutes. His most famous speech was plagiarized. Only a fellow black could respect him.

He DID have major character flaws, but if a white person were to criticize any aspect of him, blacks would scream “raaaaacist!”

 

[jc456]

Our exchange was on political murders. Keep up. I posted a chart, cited the source, and you called it disinformation. I assume that meant you had a better source of political murder counts that contradicted what I posted. I guess not. You must just know in your gut.

you brought in others, not me, you attempted to derail the discussion like a demofk always does in here. This about Charlie and no one else.

 

[citygator]

How many of those were aryan prison gang murders?

I;m betting most of them.

You mean core maga voters?

 

[Nostra]

This thread is about political killings. I was told up thread they are worse than school shootings of kids because of the threat to our freedoms.

However, I am willing to talk about the political killings (which are overwhelmingly right wing - 75%) or school shootings (which are overwhelmingly straight males 97%) or all killings (which are overwhelmingly men using a gun - 88%).

bring your data, Simp.

 

[Nostra]

Those clips refer to Donald Trump not Kirk though, bit of a gap in your analysis there no jury would think as you do (which is not think).

Worst spin ever.

What a moron you are.

 

[Lisa558]

He may have been starting to get a bit too loose with his words for some...

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Aside...

During a July 2025 episode of "The Charlie Kirk Show," Charlie Kirk and his guest, Tucker Carlson, engaged in a detailed discussion centered on the late financier Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged connections to Israeli intelligence. The conversation represented a notable instance of questioning the actions of a key U.S. ally on a prominent conservative platform.

The core of the discussion revolved around the theory that Epstein's sex trafficking and blackmail operations may have been conducted on behalf of a foreign intelligence agency, with Carlson specifically pointing to the possibility of Israeli involvement. Carlson articulated that it was "extremely obvious" that Epstein had "direct connections to a foreign government," and he argued that the reluctance in media and political circles to name Israel in this context was due to a climate of fear and censorship.

Both Kirk and Carlson were careful to frame their conversation as a matter of national interest and transparency, rather than an attack on Israel itself. They emphasized that asking critical questions about the potential influence of any foreign government on American soil should not be considered "hateful," "anti-Semitic," or "anti-Israel." Instead, they presented it as a fundamental right of citizens to hold their own government and foreign powers accountable.


Key points raised during their appearance included:

* Allegations of a Blackmail Scheme: Carlson put forward the idea that Epstein's activities were not merely the actions of an individual but were potentially part of a sophisticated blackmail operation designed to compromise influential American officials for the benefit of Israeli intelligence.

* Questioning Foreign Influence: Kirk echoed Carlson's concerns, stressing the need for open dialogue about the extent of foreign influence in American politics and affairs.

* The "Off-Limits" Nature of the Topic: A significant portion of the conversation was dedicated to the idea that it has become taboo to question the U.S.-Israel relationship or to suggest that Israeli intelligence could be involved in illicit activities on American soil. They argued that this unwillingness to engage in critical inquiry creates resentment and allows potentially harmful activities to go unexamined.

* High-Profile Connections: Carlson pointed to the known association between Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak as a significant piece of circumstantial evidence that warranted further investigation.

In summary, the content of Charlie Kirk's and Tucker Carlson's discussion regarding Israel was not a broad critique of the nation's existence or general policies. Instead, it was a focused and pointed inquiry into the specific and serious allegations of Israeli intelligence potentially using Jeffrey Epstein as an asset to conduct a blackmail operation within the United States. They positioned their discussion as a necessary, albeit controversial, examination of national security and foreign influence.


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Relevant reading...

Why Charlie Kirk remains a key advocate for Israel amid criticism | The Jerusalem Post

Charlie Kirk is not the enemy. He is one of the few voices with the reach, credibility, and courage to make the case for Israel in a skeptical, cynical, and disillusioned generation.

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''There’s a growing firestorm of criticism aimed at Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA following Tucker Carlson’s controversial remarks at the organization’s recent Student Action Summit (SAS).
So, why the outrage?

It stems from a misunderstanding – especially among older, more traditional segments of the pro-Israel community – about what it takes to reach young people today. The MAGA coalition is broad, fragile, and filled with ideological crosscurrents. It is true, no doubt, that some genuine antisemites are trying to hijack the narrative. But few are fighting harder to stop them than Charlie Kirk."


So I dunno.

Queue Ben Shapiro to carry out the role for a more filtered, more controlled perspective aimed at the youth? Maybe that...

I don’t think so. Kirk was trying to reach indoctrinated college students, and given the antisemitism flourishing on campuses, they wouldn’t show up for a Jew.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You just discounted 440 deaths as meaning nothing but want to say the world is falling apart over this 1 death?

Keep trying. I said it was a small number that you keep touting....compared to so many other things. Or are you going to start lobbying to outlaw pools in backyards?

I have pointed out a dozen times, he was the leader of a community and (I know this will shock you) when a leader is killed (in this case silenced) his community mourns his loss. Nothing unnatural about that.

I really cant follow MAGA logic

You can't follow much of anything if it isn't in your playbook.

I grow tired of your worn out whining.

It cant even hold up from the beginning of your sentence to the end of it without contradicting itself.

Only because you can't comprehend anything if your mother hasn't explained it to you 10 times.

 

[Mac1958]

This was a horrible, awful, tragic, fucked up event. For many people.

AND, many who are so full of rage about it are the VERY SAME people who brush off and downplay school shooting after school shooting. Innocent children slaughtered in school.

So this attempt at moral superiority rings a little hollow.

VERY hollow.

 

[jc456]

I don’t think so. Kirk was trying to reach indoctrinated college students, and given the antisemitism flourishing on campuses, they wouldn’t show up for a Jew.

he was asking the kids to begin discussing topics rather than ignore them into violence. He died doing what he was committed to. He understood the risks. Made him a patriot.

 

[Nostra]

This was a horrible, awful, tragic, fucked up event. For many people.

AND, many who are so full of rage about it are the VERY SAME people who brush off and downplay school shooting after school shooting. Innocent children slaughtered in school.

So this attempt at moral superiority rings a little hollow.

VERY hollow.

Link us up to people "downplaying" school shootings.

 

[Billiejeens]

While tragic there is a lot of irony. He was debating school shootings while being shot in a school shooting. Maybe it will lead to the Charlie Kirk Law addressing school safety? I doubt it. Right wingers have apparently concluded that if we just killed all liberals we wouldnt have any problems instead of focusing on school safety legislation.

It is worthy conclusion based on reality.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The entire right. From top to bottom. It's a cesspool of hatred and violence.

You are the reason Kirk was out there.

It's your special brand of human garbage ignorance that he was working to fix.