Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University

[Nostra]

No it isn't these people smashed their way into a federal building, disobeyed police commands, terrorized the people inside, crushed a police officer, hit police with clubs, what's wrong with you?

Women do not have penises what on earth are you babbling about now? trump incited violence, that's what the evidence shows and that's what umpteen jury's found and is why 1,600 of them were sent to prison, they broke the law, juries made that decision not me, not "commies" but juries approved by the prosecution and the defense attorneys.

Wokester lies.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Kirk was just collateral damage, thanks to the good 'ol 2nd Amendment! Bigly!!!

Yeah....no second and the killer can't find a gun.

You bet.

Do you try to look stupid or does it come naturally?

 

[citygator]

Yes, we've heard this schtick before.

All 450 killings your rant and rave about....which represent like 0.001% of what goes on.

But you hang onto that. I get that you really don't have much of anything else.

This thread is about political killings. I was told up thread they are worse than school shootings of kids because of the threat to our freedoms.

However, I am willing to talk about the political killings (which are overwhelmingly right wing - 75%) or school shootings (which are overwhelmingly straight males 97%) or all killings (which are overwhelmingly men using a gun - 88%).

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

FAIL!

THIS is inciting violence. It got Kirk killed.

Those clips refer to Donald Trump not Kirk though, bit of a gap in your analysis there no jury would think as you do (which is not think).

 

[jc456]

You cant find a single insult in the history of this board Ive made against Charlie Kirk. Never talked about him before and my focus on this thread has been calling out the BS narrative on left wing violence. This guys death while tragic hasnt been pinned on a liberal and if it is, it would be a huge outlier in political murders which occur about 8:1 towards conservative killers.

I never said you did. Just like stomping on the dead

Charlie Kirk wasn’t a legislator. Melissa Hortman was. Maybe you should be outraged against people actually assassinating political figures, not celebrities.

 

[citygator]

disinformation is all you posted. thanks,

You have another source? Let's see it.

 

[Rawley]

The entire right. From top to bottom. It's a cesspool of hatred and violence.

So not a single name of a Republican leader calling you, LEOs, your leaders, Nazis, Gestapo, Stormtroopers, fascists ....

Ignore this turning point at your own risk

 

[Natural Citizen]

Kirk said his biggest concern was Israel targeting him.

I’ve seen this mentioned but not quoted.

He may have been starting to get a bit too loose with his words for some...

Aside...

During a July 2025 episode of "The Charlie Kirk Show," Charlie Kirk and his guest, Tucker Carlson, engaged in a detailed discussion centered on the late financier Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged connections to Israeli intelligence. The conversation represented a notable instance of questioning the actions of a key U.S. ally on a prominent conservative platform.

The core of the discussion revolved around the theory that Epstein's sex trafficking and blackmail operations may have been conducted on behalf of a foreign intelligence agency, with Carlson specifically pointing to the possibility of Israeli involvement. Carlson articulated that it was "extremely obvious" that Epstein had "direct connections to a foreign government," and he argued that the reluctance in media and political circles to name Israel in this context was due to a climate of fear and censorship.

Both Kirk and Carlson were careful to frame their conversation as a matter of national interest and transparency, rather than an attack on Israel itself. They emphasized that asking critical questions about the potential influence of any foreign government on American soil should not be considered "hateful," "anti-Semitic," or "anti-Israel." Instead, they presented it as a fundamental right of citizens to hold their own government and foreign powers accountable.


Key points raised during their appearance included:

* Allegations of a Blackmail Scheme: Carlson put forward the idea that Epstein's activities were not merely the actions of an individual but were potentially part of a sophisticated blackmail operation designed to compromise influential American officials for the benefit of Israeli intelligence.

* Questioning Foreign Influence: Kirk echoed Carlson's concerns, stressing the need for open dialogue about the extent of foreign influence in American politics and affairs.

* The "Off-Limits" Nature of the Topic: A significant portion of the conversation was dedicated to the idea that it has become taboo to question the U.S.-Israel relationship or to suggest that Israeli intelligence could be involved in illicit activities on American soil. They argued that this unwillingness to engage in critical inquiry creates resentment and allows potentially harmful activities to go unexamined.

* High-Profile Connections: Carlson pointed to the known association between Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak as a significant piece of circumstantial evidence that warranted further investigation.

In summary, the content of Charlie Kirk's and Tucker Carlson's discussion regarding Israel was not a broad critique of the nation's existence or general policies. Instead, it was a focused and pointed inquiry into the specific and serious allegations of Israeli intelligence potentially using Jeffrey Epstein as an asset to conduct a blackmail operation within the United States. They positioned their discussion as a necessary, albeit controversial, examination of national security and foreign influence.


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Relevant reading...

Why Charlie Kirk remains a key advocate for Israel amid criticism | The Jerusalem Post

Charlie Kirk is not the enemy. He is one of the few voices with the reach, credibility, and courage to make the case for Israel in a skeptical, cynical, and disillusioned generation.

www.jpost.com

''There’s a growing firestorm of criticism aimed at Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA following Tucker Carlson’s controversial remarks at the organization’s recent Student Action Summit (SAS).
So, why the outrage?

It stems from a misunderstanding – especially among older, more traditional segments of the pro-Israel community – about what it takes to reach young people today. The MAGA coalition is broad, fragile, and filled with ideological crosscurrents. It is true, no doubt, that some genuine antisemites are trying to hijack the narrative. But few are fighting harder to stop them than Charlie Kirk."


So I dunno.

Queue Ben Shapiro to carry out the role for a more filtered, more controlled perspective aimed at the youth? Maybe that...


Interesting anomaly, if true...

Post in thread 'Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed at Utah Valley University'

Sep 11, 2025

BREAKING

Private plane left airport five miles from shooting, one hour after shooting. Plane turned off radar, which is illegal.

Plane then returned....

Plane registration:

N888KG (2013 BOMBARDIER INC BD-100-1A10 owned by N888KG LLC) Aircraft Registration - FlightAware

N888KG (2013 BOMBARDIER INC BD-100-1A10 owned by N888KG LLC) aircraft registration information with aircraft photos, flight tracking, and maps.

www.flightaware.com

Owner of plane has turned off on-line tracking....

• Jim H - VA USA

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And, for good measure?...

Thread 'Assassin’s rifle has been found by ATF'

Sep 11, 2025

Apparently the authorities have located a rifle that was likely used to kill Charlie Kirk.





It also has transgenderism rhetoric on it.


Is anyone going to be surprised if the shooter is another transgender nutjob?

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Yes, uncomfortable questions and fair conjecture may certainly sting where emotion and feelings prevail. But that's what serious people do. They ask uncomfortable questions...

 

[citygator]

You believe the ADL?

They list out every single one on their website and allow you to look into it. Feel free to use another source. Feel free to debate their categorization. You wont because youre just a troll.

 

[Rawley]

How do you know that to be the case?

Because I'm not a braindead partisan moron

 

[HikerGuy83]

I always bring the receipts my friend. You know that.

There is it.....what a huge number over 10 years.

But all lives matter.

Then outlaw cars and plans and pools and electricity and ladders and whatever else people get killed on.

I am sure the people of their district cared a great deal.

Kirk's community was much larger, as was his influence.

Your receipts are good for wiping my ass.

 

[martybegan]

I always bring the receipts my friend. You know that.

How many of those were aryan prison gang murders?

I;m betting most of them.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Wokester lies.

More likely willful ignorance on your part, fear of the truth, what a weasel, what a coward lying to yourself.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Apparently MLK used you and your boys like rented mules. Get rich and party spouting BS all day. Easy money. Marxist whites drooling over it. Like Marion Barry with a crack pipe and hookers.

MLK was an alcoholic grifter who fleeced the flock at his church to pay for lavish parties with blonde prostitutes. His most famous speech was plagiarized. Only a fellow black could respect him.

 

[martybegan]

No it isn't these people smashed their way into a federal building, disobeyed police commands, terrorized the people inside, crushed a police officer, hit police with clubs, what's wrong with you?

Women do not have penises what on earth are you babbling about now? trump incited violence, that's what the evidence shows and that's what umpteen jury's found and is why 1,600 of them were sent to prison, they broke the law, juries made that decision not me, not "commies" but juries approved by the prosecution and the defense attorneys.

Keep up with the same lefty tropes that no one believes anymore.

 

[citygator]

I never said you did. Just like stomping on the dead

Nope. That was in response to this post:

You guys never learn. I come with receipts.

 

[jc456]

You have another source? Let's see it.

why would we have a source yet, no one is captured yet. I don't make accusations without evidence. I only know this was a political assassination, since it was one shot, a kill shot and then gone.

 

[Lisa558]

He may have been starting to get a bit too loose with his words for some...

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What? Now the anti-Israel poster is blaming the Jews for Kirk’s murder?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How many of those were aryan prison gang murders?

I;m betting most of them.

The article doesn't say who, or when. It's a number like any pull it out of your ass number.

 

[jc456]

The entire right. From top to bottom. It's a cesspool of hatred and violence.

propaganda blah blah blah rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrracist.