Charlie Hustle and the matter of Pete Rose

[odanny]

Ive been a Reds fan since I was able to read
rose grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Probably whored around while married
he pushed the envelope and got caught

How does pee dee get into the hall of fame?
Admit he gambled. Which he won't

Reds best hitter today is batting 264. the worst hitter on the Big Red Machine was Ceasar Geronimo at 302
.

The 1976 Reds were the greatest team in MLB history.

 

[Billo_Really]

Cobb had more hits, but depends on your criteria. If you go by OBP and AVG, then you could put Musial and Speaker over Rose. And both of them had the same number of WS titles as Rose.

I see your point.

 

[22lcidw]

Cobb had more hits, but depends on your criteria. If you go by OBP and AVG, then you could put Musial and Speaker over Rose. And both of them had the same number of WS titles as Rose.

Rose had a lot of singles. I believe the Astroturf helped him.

 

[Roy C]

Rose had a lot of singles. I believe the Astroturf helped him.

Astrotruf is an abomination!

And no, that is not a misspelling!

 

[odanny]

From watching the documentary, and seeing where his man-servant Tommy started using steroids at Gold's gym, and then Rose lying about ever working out at the same Gold's gym (they showed a recorded interview of Rose from the same time where he tells the interviewer he works out there) is about the time Rose had around 3,700 hits, so there is no doubt in my mind that at least his last 500 hits came when he was using performance enhancing drugs, but perhaps even earlier.

Like Bonds, he was a phenomenal hitter without the use of any drugs.

 

[my2¢]

Growing up as an Indians fan, I never cared for Pete Rose ever since he mowed down Ray Fosse in the All Star Game.
I do wish Rose would get into the Hall of Fame just so I'd quit hearing about him. I was happy that the Pro Football Hall of Fame took in Lawrence Taylor because I was expecting he'd be another one we'd be hearing about year-after-year if he was denied entry.

 

[22lcidw]

Astrotruf is an abomination!

And no, that is not a misspelling!

That actually shortened some careers in baseball and football. A few years ago, a player stated even without injuries, it shortened careers by a few years with the strain on the legs. Particularly the knees. It would hold the heat from the sun, and it was put on concrete with a lining.

 

[Votto]

Ive been a Reds fan since I was able to read
rose grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Probably whored around while married
he pushed the envelope and got caught

How does pee dee get into the hall of fame?
Admit he gambled. Which he won't

Reds best hitter today is batting 264. the worst hitter on the Big Red Machine was Ceasar Geronimo at 302
.

I heard Rose got accused of shaking up with a 14 year old girl when he was with the Big Red Machine.

His defense, if you can call it that, was that he thought she was 16 years old.

Ug.

 

[22lcidw]

From watching the documentary, and seeing where his man-servant Tommy started using steroids at Gold's gym, and then Rose lying about ever working out at the same Gold's gym (they showed a recorded interview of Rose from the same time where he tells the interviewer he works out there) is about the time Rose had around 3,700 hits, so there is no doubt in my mind that at least his last 500 hits came when he was using performance enhancing drugs, but perhaps even earlier.

Like Bonds, he was a phenomenal hitter without the use of any drugs.

I do not believe that. He may have taken some uppers though.

 

[Votto]

I do not believe that. He may have taken some uppers though.

It is hard to say as there is very few people that are driven to win as was Pete.

Add to that his morals are suspect.

As for the Hall of Fame, it is just a beauty contest. I could care less.

 

[odanny]

I do not believe that. He may have taken some uppers though.

You need to watch the series then.