Chain Rection: The Impact of Race, Rights, and Taxes on American Politics

[Hector12]

Even if it does, companies will keep DEI programs, because they're good business.

How is it good business to lower standards for Negroes? It is obvious to everyone that the Negroes do not perform as well as the whites and Orientals. That arouses the resentment of the whites and the Orientals. It also arouses disrespect by white and Oriental customers who are served by affirmative action beneficiaries.

 

[JoeB131]

If you had gone to college, like you claim, you would understand percentages.

percentages don't matter. More white people are collecting checks from the government of all sorts than black folks.

When you take away checks from wealthy white people who don't need it, then you can come back and talk to me about checks to people who do.

 

[JoeB131]

How is it good business to lower standards for Negroes? It is obvious to everyone that the Negroes do not perform as well as the whites and Orientals. That arouses the resentment of the whites and the Orientals. It also arouses disrespect by white and Oriental customers who are served by affirmative action beneficiaries.

We've been over this.

I've worked with far more unqualified Boss's fuckbuddies, drinking buddies, and idiot relatives than I have "unqualified" minorities.

Connections are more important than qualifications. So is being able to chuck out $300 to hire a good resume writer.

AA doesn't compensate for qualification, it compensates for privilege.

 

[Hector12]

We've been over this.

I've worked with far more unqualified Boss's fuckbuddies, drinking buddies, and idiot relatives than I have "unqualified" minorities.

Connections are more important than qualifications. So is being able to chuck out $300 to hire a good resume writer.

AA doesn't compensate for qualification, it compensates for privilege.

There is a average fifteen point IQ difference between blacks and white Gentiles, an average 21 point IQ between blacks and Orientals, and an average 30 point IQ difference between blacks and Jews. It is not possible to achieve equity without lowering standards for Negroes, and discriminating against white Gentiles, Orientals, and Jews.

Affirmative action does not create opportunities. It takes opportunities from those who deserve them and gives them to those who do not deserve them.

 

[JoeB131]

There is a average fifteen point IQ difference between blacks and white Gentiles,

Which has a lot more to do with environment and policy than genetics, dummy.

You can't have 400 years of systematic, institutionalized racism and fix that in a generation.

Affirmative action does not create opportunities. It takes opportunities from those who deserve them and gives them to those who do not deserve them.

Again, the biggest beneficiary of AA has been white women.

I've seen two diversity hires in my time who got jobs that I probably should have had due to education and experience.

One of them was a white woman who was promoted because another white woman who had been fired went crying to EEOC. She was grossly incompetent and fought with the Jew manager constantly (some of it was justified, that guy shouldn't have been in charge of a lemonade stand).

The other was a black woman, who was out of her league. But there was some politics if they moved me from contract to full time they'd have lost the contract position and reduced headcount.

I also got passed over a job in favor of a Chinese female once because the manager didn't want to bring a contractor on full time, This was more a case of them wanting someone who knew the Chinese supplier market. But, man, passing over a veteran in favor of a foreign national, that should be something I should have been pissed about.


But here's the thing. All three of those cases, I eventually went on to better jobs. Because, hey, WHITE PRIVILEGE.

The only true meritocracy I can say I ever worked for was the Army.

 

[Hector12]

Which has a lot more to do with environment and policy than genetics, dummy.

You can't have 400 years of systematic, institutionalized racism and fix that in a generation.



Again, the biggest beneficiary of AA has been white women.

I've seen two diversity hires in my time who got jobs that I probably should have had due to education and experience.

One of them was a white woman who was promoted because another white woman who had been fired went crying to EEOC. She was grossly incompetent and fought with the Jew manager constantly (some of it was justified, that guy shouldn't have been in charge of a lemonade stand).

The other was a black woman, who was out of her league. But there was some politics if they moved me from contract to full time they'd have lost the contract position and reduced headcount.

I also got passed over a job in favor of a Chinese female once because the manager didn't want to bring a contractor on full time, This was more a case of them wanting someone who knew the Chinese supplier market. But, man, passing over a veteran in favor of a foreign national, that should be something I should have been pissed about.


But here's the thing. All three of those cases, I eventually went on to better jobs. Because, hey, WHITE PRIVILEGE.

The only true meritocracy I can say I ever worked for was the Army.

IQ is determined by genes. Genes are not determined by what happened four hundred years ago. If it was, Jews would not be as intelligent as they are. Ashkenazi Jews survived nearly two thousand years of persecution and the Holocaust, both of which you gloat about, and they are the most intelligent group of people on earth.

 

[JoeB131]

IQ is determined by genes. Genes are not determined by what happened four hundred years ago. If it was, Jews would not be as intelligent as they are. Ashkenazi Jews survived nearly two thousand years of persecution and the Holocaust, both of which you gloat about, and they are the most intelligent group of people on earth.

You remind me of one of those campus commies I used to see back in the 1980's, who would just repeat slogans when he couldn't make an argument.

Ironically, I went back to UIC about 10 years ago to meet a client. So much changed, but t here was still that little table with the Campus Commies chanting their slogans.

For smart people, they certainly do a lot of really stupid things.

Now, if you want to address my points about privilege or affirmative action, let me know.

 

[Hector12]

You remind me of one of those campus commies I used to see back in the 1980's, who would just repeat slogans when he couldn't make an argument.

Ironically, I went back to UIC about 10 years ago to meet a client. So much changed, but t here was still that little table with the Campus Commies chanting their slogans.

For smart people, they certainly do a lot of really stupid things.

Now, if you want to address my points about privilege or affirmative action, let me know.

I already addressed your points. The truth does not change. That is why I keep repeating it.

 

[JoeB131]

I already addressed your points. The truth does not change. That is why I keep repeating it.

They look as silly as you do.

 

[Hector12]

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They look as silly as you do.

You look almost as silly as they do by pretending that more government funds would enable most Negroes to behave and perform as well as most whites. We have already tried. It did not work.

More dollars to not create more and better scholars. More and bigger welfare checks lead to more illegitimate children.

 

[JoeB131]

You look almost as silly as they do by pretending that more government funds would enable most Negroes to behave and perform as well as most whites. We have already tried. It did not work.

Except that they've done fine with the limited funds we've spent.

Imagine if we actually made the effort.

 

[Hector12]

Except that they've done fine with the limited funds we've spent.

Imagine if we actually made the effort.

We already made the effort. The effort was expensive, and counter productive. Why should we assume that more money, a renewed effort at affirmative action, and fewer and shorter prison sentences would succeed when the civil rights legislation, the War on Poverty, Head Start, and No Child Left Behind failed?

Illegal immigrants, who frequently do not know English, and who have little education come to the United States and find jobs. Those are jobs welfare recipients be doing. If we eliminate most of the welfare system and hold down the underclass with a much harsher criminal justice system, we would have enjoy considerable tax savings and have an easier time controlling our borders.

 

[JoeB131]

We already made the effort.

No, we really didn't.

The effort was expensive, and counter productive. Why should we assume that more money, a renewed effort at affirmative action, and fewer and shorter prison sentences would succeed when the civil rights legislation, the War on Poverty, Head Start, and No Child Left Behind failed?

Except the War on Poverty didn't only apply to blacks.
No Child Left Behind was barely a slogan and didn't just apply to blacks.
Affirmative Action mostly benefited white women.
All of this has been explained to you multiple times, and you still don't get it.

Illegal immigrants, who frequently do not know English, and who have little education come to the United States and find jobs. Those are jobs welfare recipients be doing. If we eliminate most of the welfare system and hold down the underclass with a much harsher criminal justice system, we would have enjoy considerable tax savings and have an easier time controlling our borders.

Here's the thing, guy, Welfare (the largest number of recipients of which are- once again- white people) people are ALREADY doing those jobs. Except when they do those jobs, they don't pay well enough to put a roof over your head or food on the table, so those same welfare folks will apply for welfare programs which you still qualify for if you are at a certain level of poverty.

The problem with welfare as it is currently constructed is that it sustains people in poverty without letting them break out. Want to work a few more hours, well once you do that, you no longer qualify for SNAP and Section 8 and Medicare. Want to go to school to get additional skills to get that better paying job? You can't do that without losing benefits, either.

 

[whitehall]

Is it required reading for some college course? Surely nobody reads this stuff for entertainment unless they are faking it.

 

[JoeB131]

Is it required reading for some college course? Surely nobody reads this stuff for entertainment unless they are faking it.

Naw, Hector reads this stuff because back in HS, the girl he was creeping on dumped him for Jamal and Jamal shoved him into a locker.

 

[Hector12]

Except that they've done fine with the limited funds we've spent.

Imagine if we actually made the effort.

We have spent plenty of money on those people. What we have spent has been counterproductive. There is no reason to believe that spending more will be productive. We do not need those people.

 

[JoeB131]

We have spent plenty of money on those people. What we have spent has been counterproductive. There is no reason to believe that spending more will be productive. We do not need those people.

well, no, we really haven't.

Nowhere near what we've spent on keeping Middle Class White People from becoming poor when they get old and sick.

We spend far more on middle class entitlements than we do on welfare and poverty relief.

 

[Hector12]

well, no, we really haven't.

Nowhere near what we've spent on keeping Middle Class White People from becoming poor when they get old and sick.

We spend far more on middle class entitlements than we do on welfare and poverty relief.

Middle class entitlements have been earned. Welfare programs for blacks haven't been earned. They have not done any good either. They enable unmarried black welfare recipients too spit out litters of illegitimate children. Most of these children grow up to become just as worthless and dangerous as their unmarried and unemployable parents.

 

[Hector12]

JoeB131, name a single program that has improved black academic performance. Name one program that has reduced black crime or black illegitimacy

I will name a program that has reduced the Negro crime rate.

From 1980 to 2014 the crime rate in the United States per 100,000 inhabitants declined from 5,950.0 to 2,946.1

United States Crime Rates 1960 t0 2019

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The per-capita offending rate for African-Americans was roughly eight times higher than that of whites.
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A report out today from The Sentencing Project, a Washington, D.C.-based research and advocacy center, found that Black Americans are incarcerated at nearly 5 times the rate of white Americans.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2021-10-13/report-highlights-staggering-racial-disparities-in-us-incarceration-rates

 

[JoeB131]

ah, the Cockroach is scuttling out from beneath the floorboards.

Middle class entitlements have been earned. Welfare programs for blacks haven't been earned. They have not done any good either. They enable unmarried black welfare recipients too spit out litters of illegitimate children. Most of these children grow up to become just as worthless and dangerous as their unmarried and unemployable parents.

Guy, that wasn't the standard you set. You asked why the pittance we spend on social welfare (most of which goes to white people) hasn't ended black poverty. I pointed out that when you PROPERLY FUND an entitlement, it actually accomplishes its goal (which is to prevent the elderly from eating dog food.)

JoeB131, name a single program that has improved black academic performance. Name one program that has reduced black crime or black illegitimacy

I will name a program that has reduced the Negro crime rate.

Yes, I know you masturbate to the thought of black people in jail, but the only reason why the crime rate went down was because Boomers got too old to do dumb stuff. The Prison-Industrial complex has been counter-productive.