CDC Confirms Remarkably Low Death Rate - Media Chooses To Ignore COVID-19 Realities

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Finally, a group has used numbers and stuff to calculate and prove all those 100,000 dead COVID-19 Americans are sleeping and not really dead.

Yawn.............we have 340 million plus in this country.........math escapes you................and the WHO and CDC suck at it also...............

Now get rid of the nursing home deaths in purge states like New York........and you get 1957 and 1968 stats based on population......imagine that.....I said that a long time ago.........but hell even I was high on the stats..........at 0.8 to 1%..........based on S. Korea and the cruise ship

Actually, your 340 million is a bit high.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Righty conspiracy theorists claim China wants Biden, so they did this virus thing to hurt Donnie. You know? Like Russia wanted Don and hurt Hill...the left believes that shit, now it’s the rights turn to believe shit.

Hmm..I doubt it. There may be some conspiracy theorists claiming that. I haven't seen them and Im pretty plugged in there. Of course the right cant blast it from every network and newspaper in the land even if they did believe such a thing so maybe it would be harder to see.

You sir are a serf...at least on your better days.

No. I’m just an independent thinker not tied to either of the two criminal gangs like you are.

Watch as the right tries to paint Sniffy Joe as a Chinese asset. It’s coming.

Maybe these links will help you get informed.
Biden Sold Out America to China While Working for Hollywood - Frontpagemag

Joe Biden Is China’s Choice for President

Why Joe Biden is weak on China

Biden’s Alleged Financial Ties To China Overshadow His 2020 Bid

Unearthed Biden Speech in China Urged CCP Intrusion Into ‘All Levels Of US Govt, Classrooms, Labs, And...

You are an independent thinker all right. Independent of a basic intelligence, logic or common sense is about as bad as it gets.

 

[Care4all]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

Out of 331 MILLION people?

That's 331,000,000 people.

Now stare at this number

100,000

It is a very small number!

Unfortunately for you and the 100,000 deaths in just two months... death panel crowd, the mortality rate is NEVER calculated on the total population, but is calculated on those who were infected.....

And if 100,000 people throughout the USA were killed by armed terrorist gunman in a two month period, would you take the deaths more seriously?

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

Out of 331 MILLION people?

That's 331,000,000 people.

Now stare at this number

100,000

It is a very small number!

Unfortunately for you and the 100,000 deaths in just two months... death panel crowd, the mortality rate is NEVER calculated on the total population, but is calculated on those who were infected.....

And if 100,000 people throughout the USA were killed by armed terrorist gunman in a two month period, would you take the deaths more seriously?

As she conveniently forgets the death toll due to flu, cancer and heart disease

 

[eagle1462010]

Finally, a group has used numbers and stuff to calculate and prove all those 100,000 dead COVID-19 Americans are sleeping and not really dead.

Yawn.............we have 340 million plus in this country.........math escapes you................and the WHO and CDC suck at it also...............

Now get rid of the nursing home deaths in purge states like New York........and you get 1957 and 1968 stats based on population......imagine that.....I said that a long time ago.........but hell even I was high on the stats..........at 0.8 to 1%..........based on S. Korea and the cruise ship

Actually, your 340 million is a bit high.

Sorry..........I was counting illegals........LOL

 

[Care4all]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

 

[eagle1462010]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

 

[Care4all]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

Out of 331 MILLION people?

That's 331,000,000 people.

Now stare at this number

100,000

It is a very small number!

Unfortunately for you and the 100,000 deaths in just two months... death panel crowd, the mortality rate is NEVER calculated on the total population, but is calculated on those who were infected.....

And if 100,000 people throughout the USA were killed by armed terrorist gunman in a two month period, would you take the deaths more seriously?

As she conveniently forgets the death toll due to flu, cancer and heart disease

why should i forget about those deaths? They'd likely even be ten to 20 times higher if it were not for great medicine and preventive practice....

This novel corona virus DEATH COUNT is IN ADDITION to those diseases and has killed 100,000 people IN JUST 2 MONTHS!

This ain't a Nothing Burger, as you would like to pretend it to be.....

 

[Care4all]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

There is no party nothing here.....

Both Republican and Democratic governors followed the CDC guidelines put out by them, on how to handle covid in Nursing Homes....including their guideline on taking back in to the Nursing Home, residents who had been hospitalized with covid and then released by the Hospitals.

 

[eagle1462010]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

Out of 331 MILLION people?

That's 331,000,000 people.

Now stare at this number

100,000

It is a very small number!

Unfortunately for you and the 100,000 deaths in just two months... death panel crowd, the mortality rate is NEVER calculated on the total population, but is calculated on those who were infected.....

And if 100,000 people throughout the USA were killed by armed terrorist gunman in a two month period, would you take the deaths more seriously?

As she conveniently forgets the death toll due to flu, cancer and heart disease

why should i forget about those deaths? They'd likely even be ten to 20 times higher if it were not for great medicine and preventive practice....

This novel corona virus DEATH COUNT is IN ADDITION to those diseases and has killed 100,000 people IN JUST 2 MONTHS!

This ain't a Nothing Burger, as you would like to pretend it to be.....

Neither are the consequences of shutting the whole dang country down............

There are serious consequences there.................that will cause pain for a very long time...........small businesses are folding down here......and I'm sure around the country.

Nice job if you wanted to screw our country without vasoline........you protect the vulnerable and the others get on with their lives.

 

[eagle1462010]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

There is no party nothing here.....

Both Republican and Democratic governors followed the CDC guidelines put out by them, on how to handle covid in Nursing Homes....including their guideline on taking back in to the Nursing Home, residents who had been hospitalized with covid and then released by the Hospitals.

BS............many states did well at Nursing homes............they didn't put infected back in to the homes.

People like Cuomo should be thrown out of office.........he didn't even know his policy

Cuomo didn’t know coronavirus patients are being sent back to nursing homes

New York’s health commissioner on Monday defended a directive that requires nursing homes to readmit residents who’ve tested positive for the coronavirus — as Gov. Andrew Cuomo re…

nypost.com

He didn't know the policy of the most vulnerable.....and here you are defending his actions.

derp

 

[Care4all]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

Jimminy, you are off your rocker!

The CDC issued guidelines that there should be 6 ft of separation between all people, and no groups larger than 10,

THAT is when ALL states, including my Governor, began their shutdowns.... except the essential businesses that also were cdc guidelines

trying to rewrite history now, is just typical of you Trumpers.....!!!!

------------------------------
ALL MAJOR LEAGUE Sports,

Shut down,

before the States shut down....

------------------------------

The Stock Market CRASHED

BEFORE the States shut down....

-------------------

The mortality rate estimate is now two and a half times greater than the flu, 0.25% vs 0.1%

AND it is MORE contagious.... the infection spreads faster so it reaches more people, mortality rate is based on how many catch it..... if more people catch it at a faster rate, then many more deaths, ten times the low end deaths of the flu can and will likely, occur by year's end...... and average flu year is from 24k to 52k and about 36k as the median, in a year's time.....

we are at 100k deaths for just April and May.....

The shutdown SAVED US from that number likely being doubled over the next couple of months.

So the CDC guidance of shelter at home, will save about 100k additional American lives over the next two months.....

Then all hell is going to break loose again, with all of these openings, let alone unprotected rioters foolishly out there, and the resistance by Trumpers to wear masks, and social distance....

Let's hope we have an organized plan next time around, instead of willy nilly and shutting down everything..... pray!

 

[Markle]

Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran
JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

House Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak by trying to strip President Trump of his authority to implement travel bans.

www.breitbart.com

see, it is fake news like this crap that your fake news media like Briebart and TownHall etc. passes on to you that makes every situation of right against left much worse.... because it is based on lies....
The way the article and headline is written, it is as though your fake media is trying to push their own talking points and agenda to blame democrats for something...

This House bill was introduced in 2019, April of 2019..... yet you are passing it on, as if this bill was introduced in 2020 to purposely squash Trump's ban on travel from China due to the Corona virus.... when it had nothing to do with the Corona virus....

NOT ONCE did the article from Briebart mention that this limitation of the president to ban travel was introduced in 2019.....IT'S DECEIVING.

I'm certain your other articles posted from your fake news media who have no Journalistic credentials as a News source are all some sort of FAKE news as well..... with some truth like, yes there was a bill introduced by a person in congress who tried to limit the President's travel bans, but they failed to tell you, WHY AND WHEN this limitations of travel bans of the president was introduced, in April of 2019 and had NOTHING to do with China and the Pandemic.

Here are the FACTS refuting your argument. This is the Proclamation addressed in the article which you obviously did not read or follow to the source.

From my source, please show us what is not true, supported with your reliable source and working link.

"The legislation would mandate Trump “only issue a restriction when required to address a compelling government interest,” though that interest is not defined. Before imposing a travel ban, Trump would have to “consult with Congress,” the legislation dictates.

Likewise, Democrat Senators Christopher Murphy (D-CT), Christopher Coons (D-DE), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) have introduced legislation to stop Trump’s recent expansion of a travel ban on some legal immigration from Burma, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Nigeria, Tanzania, and Sudan, along with Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Syria, Venezuela, and Yemen."

The legislation states:

No funds, resources, or fees made available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, or to any other official of a Federal agency, by any Act of Congress for any fiscal year may be used to implement or enforce Presidential Proclamation 9983 … which restricts the entry into the United States of nationals of certain countries.

What does Proclamation 9983 do?
It orders that the U.S. will not grant immigrant visas for people from Burma/Myanmar, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, and Nigeria. It will suspend participation of people from Sudan and Tanzania in the Diversity Visa Program. The restrictions will not apply to tourist, business or other nonimmigrant travel.

When does Proclamation 9983 come into effect?
The effective date for Proclamation 9983 is February 21, 2020.

Questions and Answers Concerning Proclamation 9983

Also available as a pdf What is Proclamation 9983? On 1/31/20, the Administration announced Proclamation 9983 and issued a press release adding six countries to an already existing list of countries whose nationals are subject to certain visa restrictions, pursuant to Proclamation 9645, which...

justiceforimmigrants.org

 

[Markle]

Democrat Response to Coronavirus: End Trump’s Travel Bans on China, Iran
JOHN BINDER 11 Mar 2020 2:58

House and Senate Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak in the United States by supporting measures to effectively strip President Trump of his authority to impose travel bans to protect American citizens.

While Trump has implemented travel bans on China and Iran — two of the most coronavirus-affected nations in the world — House Democrats are looking to roll back the president’s authority to enact travel bans from regions of the world.

Dems' Response to Coronavirus: End Trump's Travel Bans on China, Iran

House Democrats are responding to the coronavirus outbreak by trying to strip President Trump of his authority to implement travel bans.

www.breitbart.com

see, it is fake news like this crap that your fake news media like Briebart and TownHall etc. passes on to you that makes every situation of right against left much worse.... because it is based on lies....
The way the article and headline is written, it is as though your fake media is trying to push their own talking points and agenda to blame democrats for something...

This House bill was introduced in 2019, April of 2019..... yet you are passing it on, as if this bill was introduced in 2020 to purposely squash Trump's ban on travel from China due to the Corona virus.... when it had nothing to do with the Corona virus....

NOT ONCE did the article from Briebart mention that this limitation of the president to ban travel was introduced in 2019.....IT'S DECEIVING.

I'm certain your other articles posted from your fake news media who have no Journalistic credentials as a News source are all some sort of FAKE news as well..... with some truth like, yes there was a bill introduced by a person in congress who tried to limit the President's travel bans, but they failed to tell you, WHY AND WHEN this limitations of travel bans of the president was introduced, in April of 2019 and had NOTHING to do with China and the Pandemic.

Did you not get this weeks programming? The pandemic no longer matters.

Onward with a new plan to get the best president in history. A race war!

Good Morning Norman!
you sure are trigger happy with your red thumbs downs.....

no comment of Briebart's DECEIT?

I proved you wrong. How about YOUR DECEIT?

 

[DOTR]

Righty conspiracy theorists claim China wants Biden, so they did this virus thing to hurt Donnie. You know? Like Russia wanted Don and hurt Hill...the left believes that shit, now it’s the rights turn to believe shit.

Hmm..I doubt it. There may be some conspiracy theorists claiming that. I haven't seen them and Im pretty plugged in there. Of course the right cant blast it from every network and newspaper in the land even if they did believe such a thing so maybe it would be harder to see.

You sir are a serf...at least on your better days.

No. I’m just an independent thinker not tied to either of the two criminal gangs like you are.

Watch as the right tries to paint Sniffy Joe as a Chinese asset. It’s coming.

Maybe these links will help you get informed.
Biden Sold Out America to China While Working for Hollywood - Frontpagemag

Joe Biden Is China’s Choice for President

Why Joe Biden is weak on China

Biden’s Alleged Financial Ties To China Overshadow His 2020 Bid

Unearthed Biden Speech in China Urged CCP Intrusion Into ‘All Levels Of US Govt, Classrooms, Labs, And...

You are an independent thinker all right. Independent of a basic intelligence, logic or common sense is about as bad as it gets.

Looks like Lefty's like gipper are already trying to get out in front over Democrat subservience to the CCP. They know whats coming

 

[Likkmee]

Finally, a group has used numbers and stuff to calculate and prove all those 100,000 dead COVID-19 Americans are sleeping and not really dead.

Well some of them died of a heart attack, I bet that guy Floyd's death certificate could say he died from vivid. You loons went all out on this one, to try to make Trump look bad. As always though, you failedagain.

I know a couple times when me and whasserface were watching vivid I thought I might die or have a heart attack

 

[gipper]

Righty conspiracy theorists claim China wants Biden, so they did this virus thing to hurt Donnie. You know? Like Russia wanted Don and hurt Hill...the left believes that shit, now it’s the rights turn to believe shit.

Hmm..I doubt it. There may be some conspiracy theorists claiming that. I haven't seen them and Im pretty plugged in there. Of course the right cant blast it from every network and newspaper in the land even if they did believe such a thing so maybe it would be harder to see.

You sir are a serf...at least on your better days.

No. I’m just an independent thinker not tied to either of the two criminal gangs like you are.

Watch as the right tries to paint Sniffy Joe as a Chinese asset. It’s coming.

Maybe these links will help you get informed.
Biden Sold Out America to China While Working for Hollywood - Frontpagemag

Joe Biden Is China’s Choice for President

Why Joe Biden is weak on China

Biden’s Alleged Financial Ties To China Overshadow His 2020 Bid

Unearthed Biden Speech in China Urged CCP Intrusion Into ‘All Levels Of US Govt, Classrooms, Labs, And...

You are an independent thinker all right. Independent of a basic intelligence, logic or common sense is about as bad as it gets.

Looks like Lefty's like gipper are already trying to get out in front over Democrat subservience to the CCP. They know whats coming

Lefty...hehehehahaha

 

[WEATHER53]

This powerful virus that had locked down the planet is no match for orchestrated rioting and looting.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

There is no party nothing here.....

Both Republican and Democratic governors followed the CDC guidelines put out by them, on how to handle covid in Nursing Homes....including their guideline on taking back in to the Nursing Home, residents who had been hospitalized with covid and then released by the Hospitals.

At governors’ discretion. It was obvious already by the time the lockdowns began that elderly were at the highest degree of risk. You’re making excuses for cuomo.

 

[eagle1462010]

The percentage of deaths doesn't matter all that much when the total number of deaths in two months goes over 100,000. Does that make you feel secure?

It’s been closer to four months and if Colorado is any indication, the real number is likely closer to 80,000, fewer than the flu of 1968-69.
Also consider the very specific demographic of most deaths (many of which could have been avoided) and you begin to see a pattern of hysterical hype.

Nope.

Likely 120k right now, not less... all corona virus deaths outside of hospital, are not counted....in Feb and March as example, in NYC their was 40% increase in their average deaths for Feb and March....40% increase over deaths in their state in 2019 not counted in covid count.

And in just 2 months,

Not a full year... 80k was for a year to year and a half, death total.....

The 100k deaths from corona virus is for just deaths in April and May

100k deaths is in just 2 months... And we are only in the 2nd inning... the virus continues, deaths continues.... likely 250,000 dead, through Dec 2020

February through May is four months. What is your source for underestimation? I provided Colorado as an example of overestimation.
It sounds like you’re hoping for worse news.

I'm not hoping for deaths, for goodness sake!!!

We just need to know the facts...know History, and not alternative facts...

There’s every reason to believe that in the United States, as in Italy, there are Covid-19 deaths that aren’t tabulated in the official numbers. On April 7, Gothamist looked at the excess death numbers in New York and concluded that the average of 245 Covid-19 deaths per day from the previous week needs to be supplemented by excess death numbers that are almost as large. As the news site reported, “Another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.”

Undercounting Covid-19 Deaths Is a Deadly Mistake

Keeping the toll of Covid-19 deaths artificially low makes it easier for Trump to push for a premature end to the lockdown.

www.thenation.com

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted in New York City

The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, according to Fire Department of New York data - suggesting the city may be significantly undercounting COVID-19 deaths.

www.reuters.com

Thats NYC. And it’s speculative so you know it’s exaggerated.
The disease kills old people.

So killing old people is A Ok, Mr Death Panel?

Sheesh!

AND NO, the disease doesn't just kill old people crowded in nursing homes.

Meat processors, and grocery store clerks, and prisoners, and public service workers, and doctors and nurses, and anyone in confined spaces that spreads the disease easily, are at risk... So are babies and small children....

Which MORONS in this country put infected back into Nursing homes........hint they were in Blue Hive States and cities.......

You ready to fire their sorry asses...............

All States Did It! Not just blue states and...

As you should KNOW by now, that it was the FEDERAL GOVT'S CDC, that issued the March 13th guidelines of putting those nursing home residents who had covid and were hospitalized, then released from the Hospital... to do their remaining recovery, back in to the resident's nursing home, even if still not fully recovered with a negative test..... not any of the governors ideas.... but the Federal CDC guidelines.

There were guidelines that included separating the covid patients in to a different ward, having the staff exclusively for the covid ward residents and not a shared staff with those residents not infected, separate entrances to the covid ward and a lot of other CDC guidelines to do such....

Which the States followed

DNC a party of excuses..............blaming others for their mistakes.......and in this case manslaughter territory........

Florida sent National Guard teams to Nursing homes........didn't happen there......Your narrative just hit an Iceberg.

I'm back at work..........12 of 120 plus from out company alone...........rest of those jobs are gone for most of the rest of the year..........along with all the other contractors........

Over this stupid virus........0.2% virus and WE BURNED OUR HOUSE DOWN.....STUPIDITY IN MOTION.

Jimminy, you are off your rocker!

The CDC issued guidelines that there should be 6 ft of separation between all people, and no groups larger than 10,

THAT is when ALL states, including my Governor, began their shutdowns.... except the essential businesses that also were cdc guidelines

trying to rewrite history now, is just typical of you Trumpers.....!!!!

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ALL MAJOR LEAGUE Sports,

Shut down,

before the States shut down....

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The Stock Market CRASHED

BEFORE the States shut down....

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The mortality rate estimate is now two and a half times greater than the flu, 0.25% vs 0.1%

AND it is MORE contagious.... the infection spreads faster so it reaches more people, mortality rate is based on how many catch it..... if more people catch it at a faster rate, then many more deaths, ten times the low end deaths of the flu can and will likely, occur by year's end...... and average flu year is from 24k to 52k and about 36k as the median, in a year's time.....

we are at 100k deaths for just April and May.....

The shutdown SAVED US from that number likely being doubled over the next couple of months.

So the CDC guidance of shelter at home, will save about 100k additional American lives over the next two months.....

Then all hell is going to break loose again, with all of these openings, let alone unprotected rioters foolishly out there, and the resistance by Trumpers to wear masks, and social distance....

Let's hope we have an organized plan next time around, instead of willy nilly and shutting down everything..... pray!

Excuses.........and most of the mistakes by Dems running the show who did a purge on the elderly .............Nice going .......and you sit here defending them.

pffft.