CBO:Obamacare's exchange customers to see their premiums hike 25% over next 3 years!

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Still less than when it was all private...
Actually NOT.
85% of Americans were covered by either employer insurance, Medicare/Medicaid or private insurance.
10 million of the remaining 46 million that DIDN"T have Employer,Medicaid/or private ARE NOT CITIZENS!
14 million of the remaining counted falsely by the CENSUS and they admit were eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP but due to the gross inefficiency
of Obama's administration didn't know that all they need do is register!
18 million don't need health insurance as they are under 34. They can afford at $50,000+ income but don't want their employers' health plans.

SO... that left less then 4 million that wanted and need insurance.
What could have happened without DESTRUCTION of health care was simple.
TAX lawyers 10% of their $270 billion a year in income and pay the $5,000 premium for each of the 4 million that want or needed insurance.
Tie the reduction of the 10% tax to a reduction of the $850 billion a year that physicians say they charge insurance companies for what is called
"Defensive Medicine" i.e. fear of lawsuits doctors prescribe duplicate tests, refer to specialists.
But for some reason you defend these ambulance chasers and I don't understand why?
You are willing to destroy the entire health delivery system for 4 million people that could be totally covered by $27 billion in tax revenue
from these ambulance chasers? Are you a lawyer???
 

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In 2014, every state but one saw the number of their uninsured drop.

49 states.

The one state that saw the number of uninsured rise?

Kansas.

From the OP link:

Overall, the CBO said, health care costs for the government and for private consumers are lower than expected just a few years ago.
 

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If the assholes who are trying to deny subsidies to people who use the federal health insurance exchange get their way in court, insurance rates will skyrocket.

This could all have been very easily averted, with just THREE WORDS amended to the ACA.

But nooooooo...we'd rather have a constitutional crisis and higher insurance rates.
 
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In 2014, every state but one saw the number of their uninsured drop.

49 states.

The one state that saw the number of uninsured rise?

Kansas.
What did the number of uninsured drop FROM??? 46 million of which 10 million were not legal and 14 million already eligible before ACA for Medicaid/SCHIP and 18 million that NOW FORCED by IRS penalties to buy when these same 18 million NEVER wanted health insurance!
There were less then 4 million that truly wanted and needed health insurance and this bogus number of 46 million HAS BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE CENSUS AS FALSE!
FACTS:

CENSUS SAYS 10 million not citizens: Income Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States 2009 - Income Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
CENSUS ADMITS to undercounting 14 million people as eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP..
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
18 million under 34 don't NEED insurance. Can afford employers' plans as they make over $50k. That leaves 4 million.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED 2009

WHEN will you people recognize the gigantic LIE that there were 46 million uninsured ! LIE from Obama who now admits 10 million were
not citizens... who doesn't seem to recognize that the CENSUS said:
Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association contracted with the Actuarial Research Corporation (ARC) to provide a detailed analysis of the uninsured identified by the Census Bureau, which found: Nearly one-third [14.7 million] were reachable through public programs, such as Medicaid and the SCHIP program for children
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
 

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If the assholes who are trying to deny subsidies to people who use the federal health insurance exchange get their way in court, insurance rates will skyrocket.

This could all have been very easily averted, with just THREE WORDS amended to the ACA.

But nooooooo...we'd rather have a constitutional crisis and higher insurance rates.
So because it's government money and not your own the rates aren't going to go up. It's the same amount of money. And all of it comes from us anyway in either higher taxes to pay the premiums or paying them yourself. Same cost either way so stop being so hysterical.
 
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If the assholes who are trying to deny subsidies to people who use the federal health insurance exchange get their way in court, insurance rates will skyrocket.

This could all have been very easily averted, with just THREE WORDS amended to the ACA.

But nooooooo...we'd rather have a constitutional crisis and higher insurance rates.
So because it's government money and not your own the rates aren't going to go up. It's the same amount of money. And all of it comes from us anyway in either higher taxes to pay the premiums or paying them yourself. Same cost either way so stop being so hysterical.
YOU are right... we pay the premiums!
BUT do you realize these premiums could have gone down BY STATE LAWS... and would not require ANYTHING but a simple tax on
lawyers just as ACA taxed tanning salons 10% because they cause cancer, tax lawyers because according to 90% of physicians the fear of lawsuits has caused doctors to send claims to insurance companies for duplicate tests,etc. i.e. over $850 billion a year!
The insurance companies pay the claims and then raise premiums.
So tax the lawyers 10% that would reduce when the $850 billion would reduce.
If the $850 billion was reduced by 1/4 or $200 billion... the insurance companies when under states laws where they sell insurance have to justify their premiums... the premiums would be reduced.
FACT is 80% of all insurance companies' PREMIUMS go out in paying claims.
Reduce how much goes out in claims reduces premiums UNDER STATES insurance laws!
All without destroying the health care industry!
 

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In 2014, every state but one saw the number of their uninsured drop.

49 states.

The one state that saw the number of uninsured rise?

Kansas.

From the OP link:

Overall, the CBO said, health care costs for the government and for private consumers are lower than expected just a few years ago.
Funny how people brag about the number of people that sign up,the problem is they are legally compelled to sign up,its like bragging about people stopping at stop signs,this major screw up bill is not very popular,no matter what people like yourself say.
 

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In 2014, every state but one saw the number of their uninsured drop.

49 states.

The one state that saw the number of uninsured rise?

Kansas.

From the OP link:

Overall, the CBO said, health care costs for the government and for private consumers are lower than expected just a few years ago.
At the same time, many of the people who are now "insured", find they cannot use their "insurance" because of the huge deductibles and out-of-pocket costs, that they didn't have before.

When they go in for a medical procedure, they suddenly have to pay thousands of dollars. So many of them aren't going for the medical procedure at all.

These are the people the liberals are insisting are now "insured".

Thanks for nothing, liberals.
 

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In 2014, every state but one saw the number of their uninsured drop.

49 states.

The one state that saw the number of uninsured rise?

Kansas.

From the OP link:

Overall, the CBO said, health care costs for the government and for private consumers are lower than expected just a few years ago.
At the same time, many of the people who are now "insured", find they cannot use their "insurance" because of the huge deductibles and out-of-pocket costs, that they didn't have before.

When they go in for a medical procedure, they suddenly have to pay thousands of dollars. So many of them aren't going for the medical procedure at all.

These are the people the liberals are insisting are now "insured".

Thanks for nothing, liberals.
Link?
 

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If the assholes who are trying to deny subsidies to people who use the federal health insurance exchange get their way in court, insurance rates will skyrocket.
It sucks when the writers of the law deliberately and specifically wrote it exactly that way, doesn't it?

This could all have been very easily averted, with just THREE WORDS amended to the ACA.

But nooooooo...we'd rather have a constitutional crisis and higher insurance rates.
And just who will refuse to allow any modification to obamadon'tcare? You got it, Obama and his water carriers in Congress.
 

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