Carrington Event on steroids

[Old Rocks]

I didn't realize you were a girl ... sorry for calling you a cowardly pussy ... yes, I understand that electrocution is damaging to one's ovaries ... but if one has balls, then lockouts are a waste of time ... a Real Man™ works on the fool circuits hot, what could go wrong? ...

Texas gets bad weather on occasion ... why do you think otherwise? ... so there's a cost/benefit ratio to harden systems to survive very rare events ... cheaper to do what they do in North Dakota, you know, join the Eastern Interconnect and use Florida electricity until they thaw out the gas plants ...

Yes, isolating Texas from the rest of the grid was a very foolish choice. As far as cost benefit ratio, Texas had a taste of extreme cold in 2011, they should have learned from that. The heaters for gas valves are a one time installation, and just require a yearly inspection to make sure they are working. Water lines can have wire warmers taped to them, again a one time installation. Really there is no sane excuse for what happened in Texas.

The steel mill in which I worked for the last 20 years of my career has a policy if you failed to lock out, you were fired on the spot. A policy that is absolutely correct.

 

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Yes, isolating Texas from the rest of the grid was a very foolish choice.

Only time will tell.

 

[Old Rocks]

Only time will tell.

It has already told. 210 deaths from the failure of the grid in Texas, a failure that should not have happened, and could have been prevented had they been connected to the main grid.

Texas Winter Storm Death Toll Goes Up To 210, Including 43 Deaths In Harris County | Houston Public Media

Harris County leads the state in freeze-related deaths.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

"The power outages led to widespread damage to homes and businesses, foregone economic activity, contaminated water supplies and the loss of at least 111 lives. Early estimates indicate that the freeze and outage may cost the Texas economy $80 billion–$130 billion in direct and indirect economic loss.Apr 15, 2021"

Cost of Texas’ 2021 deep freeze justifies weatherization

Our analysis indicates winterizing for extreme winter weather events appears financially reasonable.

www.dallasfed.org

 

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It has already told. 210 deaths from the failure of the grid in Texas, a failure that should not have happened, and could have been prevented had they been connected to the main grid.

Texas Winter Storm Death Toll Goes Up To 210, Including 43 Deaths In Harris County | Houston Public Media

Harris County leads the state in freeze-related deaths.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

"The power outages led to widespread damage to homes and businesses, foregone economic activity, contaminated water supplies and the loss of at least 111 lives. Early estimates indicate that the freeze and outage may cost the Texas economy $80 billion–$130 billion in direct and indirect economic loss.Apr 15, 2021"

Cost of Texas’ 2021 deep freeze justifies weatherization

Our analysis indicates winterizing for extreme winter weather events appears financially reasonable.

www.dallasfed.org

Don't be silly. Have you always been such a drama queen?

 

[Old Rocks]

Don't be silly. Have you always been such a drama queen?

Stating the results of a failed policy is being a drama queen? Your denial of the reality of the deaths and economic results of that failed policy is simply further evidence of your lack of contact with reality.

 

[ReinyDays]

Yes, isolating Texas from the rest of the grid was a very foolish choice. As far as cost benefit ratio, Texas had a taste of extreme cold in 2011, they should have learned from that. The heaters for gas valves are a one time installation, and just require a yearly inspection to make sure they are working. Water lines can have wire warmers taped to them, again a one time installation. Really there is no sane excuse for what happened in Texas.

The steel mill in which I worked for the last 20 years of my career has a policy if you failed to lock out, you were fired on the spot. A policy that is absolutely correct.

Those heaters for the gas valves ... and the wire-wraps for water pipes ... will all have to be replace perhaps several times between uses ... even with semi-annual preventive maintenance inspections ... valve heaters will not last the 300 to 500 years between times they're needed ... water pipes themselves don't last that long ...

You should study the meteorology going on here ... and see how the climatic averages are being calculated ... Texas is big enough to hold a small wave cyclone, weather from east to west ain't usually all the same ... these deep freezes ain't all that uncommon mind you ... but always before they occur in one part of the state, the rest is relatively unaffected ... it's only every few hundred years that all of Texas freezes this hard ...

You'll need to explain better how these pump heaters work when the grid is turned off ... the North Dakota solution is better and cheaper ... pump heaters work great using Florida juice ...

 

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Stating the results of a failed policy is being a drama queen? Your denial of the reality of the deaths and economic results of that failed policy is simply further evidence of your lack of contact with reality.

Do your parents know you are on their computer?

 

[Old Rocks]

Those heaters for the gas valves ... and the wire-wraps for water pipes ... will all have to be replace perhaps several times between uses ... even with semi-annual preventive maintenance inspections ... valve heaters will not last the 300 to 500 years between times they're needed ... water pipes themselves don't last that long ...

You should study the meteorology going on here ... and see how the climatic averages are being calculated ... Texas is big enough to hold a small wave cyclone, weather from east to west ain't usually all the same ... these deep freezes ain't all that uncommon mind you ... but always before they occur in one part of the state, the rest is relatively unaffected ... it's only every few hundred years that all of Texas freezes this hard ...

You'll need to explain better how these pump heaters work when the grid is turned off ... the North Dakota solution is better and cheaper ... pump heaters work great using Florida juice ...

"In all during the 2011 freeze, equipment failures affected 241 plants owned by 41 companies, leading to rolling blackouts that took power offline for hours at a time. The blackouts affected some 4.4 million customers, according to a report released months after the event by two federal energy regulators.Mar 6, 2021"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/06/texas-power-plants/

After extreme cold events in 1989 and 2011, Texas was warned to winterize power plants — but many still froze in the latest storms​

After extreme cold events in 1989 and 2011, Texas was warned to winterize power plants — but many still froze in the latest storms

A report found that after recommendations to winterize plants went unheeded after 1989, some of the same plants were again shut down by cold in 2011.

www.insider.com

1989, 2011, 2021. That is a bit more frequent than a few hundred years apart.

 

[ReinyDays]

"In all during the 2011 freeze, equipment failures affected 241 plants owned by 41 companies, leading to rolling blackouts that took power offline for hours at a time. The blackouts affected some 4.4 million customers, according to a report released months after the event by two federal energy regulators.Mar 6, 2021"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/06/texas-power-plants/

After extreme cold events in 1989 and 2011, Texas was warned to winterize power plants — but many still froze in the latest storms​

After extreme cold events in 1989 and 2011, Texas was warned to winterize power plants — but many still froze in the latest storms

A report found that after recommendations to winterize plants went unheeded after 1989, some of the same plants were again shut down by cold in 2011.

www.insider.com

1989, 2011, 2021. That is a bit more frequent than a few hundred years apart.

Is this what you think of the meteorology in that area? ... no wonder you're so complete wrong about Carrington events ... I guess that's all we can expect from an uneducated mill worker ... yeesh that's stupid ...

Of course it gets cold in Texas, but Texas is a big place, bigger than Oregon even ... a small wave cyclone fits inside Texas ... wave cyclones have areas of very cold temperatures and areas of much higher temperatures ... so always before only a part of Texas freezes up, the other parts are fine and feeding the grid ... no shut down ... just once in weather records does the entire State freeze up, that made it a "140-year event" ... on average, these expensive pump heaters won't be tried again for another 140 years ... and again this will fail, the grid is shut down, there's no electricity to run the heaters ... duh ...

equipment failures affected 241 plants owned by 41 companies ...

The equipment performed as designed ... when the grid frequency dropped to 59.4 Hz, the circuit breakers opened allowing the generators to free-wheel and cool down ... or rather, grid operators saw the inevitablity of a low freq condition and manually shut the grid down, avoiding any failure conditions ... then sent girly-girl workers in with their precious darling lockouts to inspect for spun bearings ...

The humans failed ... Bubba never finished Middle School ...