Capitol Attack Panel Obtains PowerPoint That Set Out Plan For trump To Stage Coup

[jc456]

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Over the internet? So they trained how to enter the Congress hall who the leader was, flags and the will to win? Damn, and we have boot camps and camps after boot camp to train how to March, get in synchronized formation, chain of command. Strategy, Weapons with combat training. All they have to do is talk on the internet? Who knew

 

[Lesh]

Over the internet? So they trained how to enter the Congress hall who the leader was, flags and the will to win? Damn, and we have boot camps and camps after boot camp to train how to March, get in synchronized formation, chain of command. Strategy, Weapons with combat training. All they have to do is talk on the internet? Who knew

You seem to have made a career out of building straw men arguments

 

[Viktor]

Hillary probably paid for it too.

The FBI investigated the Jan 6 thing for 8 months and found nothing on Donald Trump. They said there was no insurrection and the riot was not planned in advance. The Dumbocrat politicians cannot override what the FBI said. It is stupid to call witnesses who don't want to cooperate.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Because they told him to go **** himself. Do you think that is a defense of the orange lard and master? It isn't.



Well that's a lie. You mean, with guns. You have DC gun laws to thank for that. Notice how many have been arrested for weapons found left in their cars. So if you think this is a good defense of them, you are wrong again.

According to the Pentagon and the loons the Military is riddled with "extremist" so it shouldn't have been a problem getting military involved. As far as DC laws, are you claiming there is no gun crime in D.C? I'm no Trump cheerleader I'm just pointing out how ******* stupid you loons are.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Hardly. The double standard is childish and thinking people will put up with it is childish too.

There is no double standard, dope.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I don't have them. Georgia has them. Michigan has them. Pennsylvania has them. Wisconsin has them.

Mmhm… as evidenced by the certifications of their elections and the submissions of their electors to Congress.

 

[colfax_m]

It is stupid to call witnesses who don't want to cooperate.

Imagine if law enforcement said the same thing.

We are taking you in for questioning.
I don’t want to.
Oh, okay. Never mind.

 

[lennypartiv]

Mmhm… as evidenced by the certifications of their elections and the submissions of their electors to Congress.

That stuff should be audited.

 

[Nostra]

Imagine if law enforcement said the same thing.

We are taking you in for questioning.
I don’t want to.
Oh, okay. Never mind.

Law enforcement can't force you to answer any question, Dumbass.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It was never investigated. Proven liars just said it was. Half the country knows it happened. Your lie will NEVER turn into the truth. Keep up your slavish devotion to the people destroying this country. You POS.

Never Investigated?
Every state certified their election as being complete and accurate. Each sent their electoral votes accordingly. Are they all in cahoots?
That is the starting point for you to prove otherwise.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That stuff should be audited.

The process of certification is in itself an auditing process with each step being reviewed before certification. Did you imagine that was just a word and not an actual process?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This is interesting.

mark meadows turned this powerpoint over to the committee.

It's 38 pages of how to overthrow the election.

Including declaring all electronic votes fraud and void.

Wow. This really was planned out.

Capitol attack panel obtains PowerPoint that set out plan for Trump to stage coup

So let me get this straight... a presentation to members of a party, about coming up with a cohesive message about an election, is somehow unusual?

 

[surada]

Prove it. No one’s been arrested for carrying. Me thinks you’re nuts

140 police officers were injured.. Are you an anarchist?

 

[Care4all]

John Eastman memos were long before this power point memo....

The planned soft coup de tat, (self coup) began months before the election, when their internal Trump campaign polling showed that Trump was going to lose and Joe Biden was going to win.

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Eastman memos - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Eastman memorandums[6][7] were documents produced in 2020 by John C. Eastman, an American law professor working with the legal team of then-President Donald Trump, intended to overturn the 2020 United States election of Joe Biden and getting Trump re-elected by throwing out electors from seven states on January 6, 2021, when Congress counted the Electoral College votes.[8][9] The memos have been described as an instruction manual for a coup d'état; specifically, a self-coup.[10]

Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election
The electoral map for the 2020 election. Blue denotes the 306 electoral votes for Biden, while Red denotes the 232 electoral votes for Trump.
Date	November 4, 2020[1] – January 7, 2021[2] (2 months and 3 days)
Location	Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Washington, D.C.
Caused by	Fabricated claims of electoral fraud[3][4][5]
Resulted in	Failure to overturn election; Joe Biden inaugurated January 20, 2021

​

Overview​

After the 2020 United States presidential election in which Joe Biden prevailed, then-incumbent Donald Trump, as well as his campaign, his proxies, and many of his supporters, pursued an aggressive and unprecedented effort,[11] to deny and overturn the election.[12]

In that context, John C. Eastman tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6, 2021 (when Congress counted the Electoral College votes) by throwing out electors from seven states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Washington, D.C.) because they allegedly had competing electors although, in fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors. Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222.[13]

According to a news report in The Washington Post on October 23, 2021, the Willard hotel was a "command center" for the White House plot, that included Eastman, to overturn the results of the 2020 election.[14] Further related details of the effort to deny and overturn the election have been reported.[15][16][17][18][19]

 

[Care4all]

Here is the first Eastman memo

Eastman memos - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

First memorandum​

The first memo described the constitutional and statutory process for opening and counting of electoral votes under the 12th Amendment and Electoral Count Act, alleging that the Electoral Count Act was unconstitutional. It then laid out a six-step plan for Pence to overturn Biden's election:[6]

1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required).
2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.
3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment – is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.
4. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who now claim, contrary to Tribe’s prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.
5. One last piece. Assuming the Electoral Count Act process is followed and, upon getting the objections to the Arizona slates, the two houses break into their separate chambers, we should not allow the Electoral Count Act constraint on debate to control. That would mean that a prior legislature was determining the rules of the present one – a constitutional no-no (as Tribe has forcefully argued). So someone – Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. – should demand normal rules (which includes the filibuster). That creates a stalemate that would give the state legislatures more time to weigh in to formally support the alternate slate of electors, if they had not already done so.
6. The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position – that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed. The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind.

 

[Care4all]

And here is the second memo from John Eastman, Trump's lawyer.....

Eastman memos - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Second memorandum​

The second memo laid out a more extensive plan with multiple scenarios for Pence to take to overturn Biden's election:[7] The first section outlined alleged illegal conduct by election officials in six states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin). The second section again alleged that the Electoral Count Act was unconstitutional. The third section outlined various alternatives for Pence to take to overturn Biden's election:

• VP Pence opens the ballots, determines on his own which is valid, asserting that the authority to make that determination under the 12th Amendment, and the Adams and Jefferson precedents, is his alone (anything in the Electoral Count Act to the contrary is therefore unconstitutional).
  • If State Legislatures have certified the Trump electors, he counts those, as required by Article II (the provision of the Electoral Count Act giving the default victory to the “executive”-certified slate therefore being unconstitutional). Any combination of states totaling 38 elector votes, and TRUMP WINS.
  • If State Legislatures have not certified their own slates of electors, VP Pence determines, based on all the evidence and the letters from state legislators calling into question the executive certifications, decides to count neither slate of electors. (Note: this could be done with he gets to Arizona in the alphabetical roster, or he could defer Arizona and the other multi-slate states until the end, and then make the determination). At the end of the count, the tally would therefore be 232 for Trump, 222 for Biden. Because the 12th Amendment says “majority of electors appointed,” having determined that no electors from the 7 states were appointed (a position in accord with that taken by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe (here), TRUMP WINS.
  • Alternatively, VP Pence determines that because multiple electors were appointed from the 7 states but not counted because of ongoing election disputes, neither candidate has the necessary 270 elector votes, throwing the election to the House. IF the Republicans in the State Delegations stand firm, the vote there is 26 states for Trump, 23 for Biden, and 1 split vote. TRUMP WINS.
• VP Pence determines that the ongoing election challenges must conclude before ballots can be counted, and adjourns the joint session of Congress, determining that the time restrictions in the Electoral County Act are contrary to his authority under the 12th Amendment and therefore void. Taking the cue, state legislatures convene, order a comprehensive audit/investigation of the election returns in their states, and then determine whether the slate of electors initially certified is valid, or whether the alternative slate of electors should be certified by the legislature, exercise authority it has directly from Article II and also from 3 U.S.C. § 2, which provides: “Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.”
  • If ... the investigation proves to the satisfaction of the legislature that there was sufficient fraud and illegality to affect the results of the election, the Legislature certifies the Trump electors. Upon reconvening the Joint Session of Congress, those votes are counted and TRUMP WINS.

 

[jc456]

140 police officers were injured.. Are you an anarchist?

Was anyone arrested for carrying firearms? That was the ask you deflected away from!!

 

[surada]

John Eastman memos were long before this power point memo....

The planned soft coup de tat, (self coup) began months before the election, when their internal Trump campaign polling showed that Trump was going to lose and Joe Biden was going to win.

==================================

Eastman memos - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Eastman memorandums[6][7] were documents produced in 2020 by John C. Eastman, an American law professor working with the legal team of then-President Donald Trump, intended to overturn the 2020 United States election of Joe Biden and getting Trump re-elected by throwing out electors from seven states on January 6, 2021, when Congress counted the Electoral College votes.[8][9] The memos have been described as an instruction manual for a coup d'état; specifically, a self-coup.[10]

Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election
The electoral map for the 2020 election. Blue denotes the 306 electoral votes for Biden, while Red denotes the 232 electoral votes for Trump.
Date	November 4, 2020[1] – January 7, 2021[2] (2 months and 3 days)
Location	Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Washington, D.C.
Caused by	Fabricated claims of electoral fraud[3][4][5]
Resulted in	Failure to overturn election; Joe Biden inaugurated January 20, 2021

​

Overview​

After the 2020 United States presidential election in which Joe Biden prevailed, then-incumbent Donald Trump, as well as his campaign, his proxies, and many of his supporters, pursued an aggressive and unprecedented effort,[11] to deny and overturn the election.[12]

In that context, John C. Eastman tried to convince then-Vice President Mike Pence that he could overturn the election results on January 6, 2021 (when Congress counted the Electoral College votes) by throwing out electors from seven states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Washington, D.C.) because they allegedly had competing electors although, in fact, no state had actually put forward an alternate slate of electors. Under Eastman's scheme, Pence would have declared Trump the winner with more Electoral College votes after the seven states were thrown out, at 232 votes to 222.[13]

According to a news report in The Washington Post on October 23, 2021, the Willard hotel was a "command center" for the White House plot, that included Eastman, to overturn the results of the 2020 election.[14] Further related details of the effort to deny and overturn the election have been reported.[15][16][17][18][19]

Was anyone arrested for carrying firearms? That was the ask you deflected away from!!

You're a communist and a traitor.

Fact checking claims January 6 was not an armed ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/armed...

Jul 28, 2021 · Guy Reffitt has been charged with illegally bringing a handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6. Reffitt allegedly told family members he "brought his gun with him" in the Capitol attack.

Author: Holmes Lybrand
Prosecutors have charged a fourth Capitol riot defendant ...

Prosecutors have charged a fourth Capitol riot defendant with a firearms violation

The defendant, Guy Reffitt, is accused of carrying a semi-automatic handgun while on U.S. Capitol grounds on January 6.

www.cbsnews.com

Jun 17, 2021 · Of the three other riot defendants charged with firearms violations, court documents suggest that at least two of them were armed with guns during the mob attack on January 6.

New gun charge puts Jan. 6 attack in an important new context

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-gun...

Nov 23, 2021 · An Indiana man charged with carrying a loaded firearm to the Capitol on Jan. 6 told investigators that if he had found Speaker Nancy Pelosi, "you'd be here for another reason," according …

Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons
reddit.com/r/politics · Mar 11, 2021 · Article from: www.factcheck.org
Top responses
hence the term 'terrorists'.
161 votes
Factcheck.org - can you please fact check whether these were actually “protesters?” They seem like seditionists and terrorists to me.
70 votes
One weapon that was missing? Wits.
24 votes
They’re having the audacity to call themselves patriots.
40 votes
Well they have weaponized stupidity, but I get your point.
14 votes
What, the pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails didn't tip you off?
12 votes

idden

 

[jc456]

You're a communist and a traitor.

Fact checking claims January 6 was not an armed ...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/armed...

Jul 28, 2021 · Guy Reffitt has been charged with illegally bringing a handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6. Reffitt allegedly told family members he "brought his gun with him" in the Capitol attack.

Author: Holmes Lybrand
Prosecutors have charged a fourth Capitol riot defendant ...

Prosecutors have charged a fourth Capitol riot defendant with a firearms violation

The defendant, Guy Reffitt, is accused of carrying a semi-automatic handgun while on U.S. Capitol grounds on January 6.

www.cbsnews.com

Jun 17, 2021 · Of the three other riot defendants charged with firearms violations, court documents suggest that at least two of them were armed with guns during the mob attack on January 6.

New gun charge puts Jan. 6 attack in an important new context

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-gun...

Nov 23, 2021 · An Indiana man charged with carrying a loaded firearm to the Capitol on Jan. 6 told investigators that if he had found Speaker Nancy Pelosi, "you'd be here for another reason," according …

Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons
reddit.com/r/politics · Mar 11, 2021 · Article from: www.factcheck.org
Top responses
hence the term 'terrorists'.
161 votes
Factcheck.org - can you please fact check whether these were actually “protesters?” They seem like seditionists and terrorists to me.
70 votes
One weapon that was missing? Wits.
24 votes
They’re having the audacity to call themselves patriots.
40 votes
Well they have weaponized stupidity, but I get your point.
14 votes
What, the pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails didn't tip you off?
12 votes

idden

140 cops hurt? How many Gun shots? Nope, so how. Maybe one person might be charged with a firearm!! Hahaha hahaha. Six people dead and 62 injured in Waukesha, WI due to one man Blake illegally on the street and no one arrested for allowing him on the street!! It seems your morality has holes

 

[Lesh]

140 cops hurt? How many Gun shots?

So it only counts if you shoot someone? Bash a cop's head in or gouge out his eye and it's no big deal?

Interesting