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Capitalism is Violence

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We don't have pure capitalism- the drug cartels do- we have a Keynesean mix of something developed for the British Monarchy- top down (Trickle Down) economics-
 
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There's no way to fix the world's problems.

Just vow to do good in your personal life.
How did that work out for all the Good Germans?
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Communism does all this stuff too, so what's your alternative?
Communism doesn't invade countries on the opposite side of the planet from their homeland like capitalist states have done for centuries:

Systemic Disorder

"The entire territory that today constitutes the Democratic Republic of Congo was, in the late 19th and early 20th century, the personal possession of Belgium’s king, Leopold II.

"At least 10 million Congolese lost their lives at the hands of Belgian authorities eager to extract rubber and other resources at any cost.

"This genocidal plunder — the loss of life halved the local population — rested on a system of terror and slave labor.

"This system included forced labor requiring work in mines day and night, the chopping off of hands as punishment and 'the burning of countless villages and cities where every individual who was found was killed.'..."

"The U.S., incidentally, was the first country to recognize King Leopold’s claim to Congo."
I think the retard has me on ignore, but if you could remind him...

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As usual an ignorant post shows up attacking Capitalism, while ignoring history's biggest killer of all:
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Yea aborting babies in the name of Planned Parenthood, is getting cash for baby parts....Want to play again?

 

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Communism does all this stuff too, so what's your alternative?
Communism doesn't invade countries on the opposite side of the planet from their homeland like capitalist states have done for centuries:

Systemic Disorder

"The entire territory that today constitutes the Democratic Republic of Congo was, in the late 19th and early 20th century, the personal possession of Belgium’s king, Leopold II.

"At least 10 million Congolese lost their lives at the hands of Belgian authorities eager to extract rubber and other resources at any cost.

"This genocidal plunder — the loss of life halved the local population — rested on a system of terror and slave labor.

"This system included forced labor requiring work in mines day and night, the chopping off of hands as punishment and 'the burning of countless villages and cities where every individual who was found was killed.'..."

"The U.S., incidentally, was the first country to recognize King Leopold’s claim to Congo."
Bwaaaaahhhaaaaaa.....So you think a Monarchy is capitalist? Fuck you are such a dumbfuck....
 

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Blaming capitalism is like blaming guns for killing people- it's a tool- the people who take advantage of it are like murderers that use a gun- they chose a tool- in our case, the people choosing the tool are in the District of Criminals- the most powerful cartel on the planet, who ensure their scheme is forced on others, by law here, by military and para-military elsewhere- innocents in particular- forcing, or coercion, is not consensual, therefore, not that good for others- only the more equal like the other ism's of the nefarious- be it communist, socialist or nazi- it's people- and our people suffer from improper education, including the elites- their education was built on false premises, a shifting foundation- thus, we have no virtuous men allegedly representing we the stinky tourists-
 

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My wife has some friends, a couple from several years ago and her former marriage, when living in Idaho. I met them a couple years ago when they were over here to visit one of their children.

The husband, we'll call him John, owns a business that makes roof trusses for homes and small buildings.. Back in the 1980s, when my wife lived over there, he and her husband were workers in the construction industry together. John eventually got some money together to seed~start the truss manufacturing business and today employs somewhere around a hundred people.

John is also a devout Christian and while he and his family could enjoy a better lifestyle via the profits of his business, he uses a large portion of those to support an orphanage and school in Africa. As he puts it, he "felt the Lord's thumb upon him to do something good in pay back for his good fortune", etc.

Obviously he is a "capitalist", but he underscores that Free Will can play a part in how one performs as a capitalist. As a bootstrap start-up, he has succeeded and provided jobs for others. He also has put his money where his words/faith are and since he has a personal vested interest, his dollars spent overseas supporting his charitable projects are likely doing as much as four-five times of USA foreign aid would achieve.

Seems those whom bitch the most about capitalism are the 'do-nothings' no matter what system they would be operating in. Talk is cheap, doing something positive is harder; and usually those whom are doing, aren't the ones that are complaining.
 

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Communism does all this stuff too, so what's your alternative?
Communism doesn't invade countries on the opposite side of the planet from their homeland like capitalist states have done for centuries:

EDIT for brevity ...
Communism just covertly starts, funds, and supports insurrections around the world.
 

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Communism does all this stuff too, so what's your alternative?
Communism doesn't invade countries on the opposite side of the planet from their homeland like capitalist states have done for centuries:

Systemic Disorder

"The entire territory that today constitutes the Democratic Republic of Congo was, in the late 19th and early 20th century, the personal possession of Belgium’s king, Leopold II.

"At least 10 million Congolese lost their lives at the hands of Belgian authorities eager to extract rubber and other resources at any cost.

"This genocidal plunder — the loss of life halved the local population — rested on a system of terror and slave labor.

"This system included forced labor requiring work in mines day and night, the chopping off of hands as punishment and 'the burning of countless villages and cities where every individual who was found was killed.'..."

"The U.S., incidentally, was the first country to recognize King Leopold’s claim to Congo."
I think the retard has me on ignore, but if you could remind him...

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What connects slave labor, the ruthless extraction of foreign natural resources, wars of aggression, and regular mass shooting episodes in the US?
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"Violence, force and coercion — exemplified in widespread use of slave labor, imperialist conquests of peoples around the world and ruthless extraction of natural resources — pervades the entire history of capitalism.

"The rise of capitalism can’t be understood outside slavery, colonialism and plunder."

Capitalism took root by placing markets over people.
English lords wanted to transform arable land into sheep pastures to capitalize on the demand for wool, and state force was the crucial midwife.
Slavery played its role in bootstrapping the rise of European and US capitalism.
Over the past hundred years the US has perfected the use of state-sanctioned force to implement William Howard Taft's essential foreign policy:


"... President Taft had already declared that his foreign policy was 'to include active intervention to secure our merchandise and our capitalists opportunity for profitable investment' abroad. "
people are violent always have been always will be.
 
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I think you have crony government ran capitalism with true free market capitalism mixed up,,
When you say "free market" do you mean markets free of various forms of financial fraud or markets free of government regulation? It's hard for me to find a time when capitalism existed without cronyism.
 

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I think you have crony government ran capitalism with true free market capitalism mixed up,,
When you say "free market" do you mean markets free of various forms of financial fraud or markets free of government regulation? It's hard for me to find a time when capitalism existed without cronyism.
well since the first part referenced government ran capitalism one would assume thats the one I am referring,,,

and if you have never seen one it might have to do with the people/groups you are hanging out with,, cause I have been working in the free market without cronyism for almost 30 yrs,,,
 
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Capitalism is freedom and self-determination. People who can't handle such responsibility tend to project their personal failures upon the system.
Capitalism is slavery, genocide, and eternal war as its history proves again and again:
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Systemic Disorder

"Exploitation did not end with the end of slavery in the 19th century, Dr. Rodney pointed out.

"Colonial powers confiscated huge areas of arable land in Africa, then sold it at nominal prices to the well-connected.

"In Kenya, for example, the British declared the fertile highlands 'crown lands' and sold blocks of land as large as 550 square miles (1,400 square kilometers).

"These massive land confiscations not only enabled the creation of massively profitable plantations, but created the conditions that forced newly landless Africans to become low-wage agricultural workers and to pay taxes to the colonial power."
 
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Which country is everyone trying to immigrate into?

Hmm?

Do you see people if Florida trying to jump on an inner tube in the hopes that the current takes them to Cuba?
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"U.S. forces left Cuba in 1902 after a four-year occupation but not before dictating that Cubans agree to the Platt Amendment.

"The amendment, inserted into the Cuban constitution as the price for U.S. withdrawal, gave the U.S. control over Cuban foreign and economic policies and the right to intervene with military force to protect U.S. corporate interests.

"By 1905, U.S. interests owned 60 percent of Cuba’s land and controlled most of its industry.

"Just four months after the 1959 revolution took power, the U.S. government was already viewing the potential success of the revolution as a 'bad example' for the rest of Latin America."
 
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Capitalism levels the playing field- unchecked cronyism puts obstacles on the playing field- gov't's write the laws for their crony's-
Capitalism tilts the playing field by dividing society into owners and workers. The former is a small minority of the total population, yet they decide what to produce, where to produce it, and how to distribute any surplus. Unless a democratic government politically constructs law and institutions that address that imbalance, the resulting economic inequality will continue to widen with each passing generation.
 

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