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That is 100% inaccurate.The same thing with me. I'm as blue collar as they get, but I have an IRA, I've spent a couple of years in the commodities market, and like you made real estate investments that are keeping me comfortable now that I'm no longer working.
I'm not rich, but while other people were buying the newest cars, getting the newest iPhones for themselves and their family, going out to dinner once a week and taking lavish vacations, I stayed home and worked on my rental properties. I never married nor had children, never used harsh narcotics or got into trouble with the law.
The complaint by Citygator is about people that didn't do what you and I did. They went to work every day, bitched that they didn't make enough money, and made no efforts to invest or enter a new field of work that paid them better money. His view is that their companies should have "shared the wealth" instead of them advancing themselves.
um. No. Not even close.
That is 100% inaccurate.
Over the course of time the rules have been bent against you and towards capital owners. You are fine with it because you are living for yourself - your choice, congrats. However for this country to endure we need people born into this country to have a fair shake at the middle class like they used to. No one is asking for a handout. We are talking about a fair system. I’m glad you carved out something for yourself.
Everybody has equal opportunity. Just that, unlike you, some people aren’t lazy and put in an effort to get where they want to be. Rules aren’t bent against anybody willing to work. You’re just asking for stuff you haven’t earned and are too lazy to try for. Equal outcome is not guaranteed and should not be.That is 100% inaccurate.
Over the course of time the rules have been bent against you and towards capital owners. You are fine with it because you are living for yourself - your choice, congrats. However for this country to endure we need people born into this country to have a fair shake at the middle class like they used to. No one is asking for a handout. We are talking about a fair system. I’m glad you carved out something for yourself.
People, on both sides of the aisle, seem preoccupied on whether people with a lot of wealth and income "deserve" it. And that has nothing to do with my preference for free markets.Everybody has equal opportunity. Just that, unlike you, some people aren’t lazy and put in an effort to get where they want to be. Rules aren’t bent against anybody willing to work. You’re just asking for stuff you haven’t earned and are too lazy to try for. Equal outcome is not guaranteed and should not be.
You have made up cracks. No one will ever be equal. Everyone is different. The users will always be poor and the rich get rich because the losers are too stupid to improve their lives. They would rather just bitch about the rich. I have been around for decades and I have personally seen thousands and thousands over the years that had the chance to make their lives better and they refused to do it. There's a price you have to pay for everything, including getting ahead. If you are unwilling to pay anything then you get nothing in return. Many people would just rather be poor than pay the price to get ahead. They just want things handed to them without giving anything in return.Didn’t say that. What’s your solution for the cracks in our system?
You have made up cracks. No one will ever be equal. Everyone is different. The users will always be poor and the rich get rich because the losers are too stupid to improve their lives. They would rather just bitch about the rich. I have been around for decades and I have personally seen thousands and thousands over the years that had the chance to make their lives better and they refused to do it. There's a price you have to pay for everything, including getting ahead. If you are unwilling to pay anything then you get nothing in return. Many people would just rather be poor than pay the price to get ahead. They just want things handed to them without giving anything in return.
Man when I first hit the real world, it was expensive. You know, to end up well off enough to do what you want turned out to be not doing anything really special. Just applied and improved my condition from day one and forty years later it’s very surprising. Must avoid the terrible mistakes and a whole bunch of lesser ones. Maybe That’s what’s specialAbout six years ago I was renting to a young couple. Good kids, paid their rent late but I was never a stickler about that, I was saddened when they left. Both had minimum wage jobs. The guy worked at McDonald's and she worked at Pizza Hut. They never tried to do better financially because they were both hooked on pot, and neither stood any chance at a better job because they could never pass a drug screen which many better jobs require.
After that I ran into case after case of the same thing in either my line of work or the experiences of others. Yes, I liked my pot too when I was younger, but I'd never let it stand in the way between me and a much better paying job or even career. My only hope is those kids both got off the dope and started to make a path in life. You're not young forever. When you get in your 40's and all you have on your resume is restaurant work, you're not going to get very far in life.
I’m using statistics not feelings. At what point is this no longer healthy?You have made up cracks. No one will ever be equal. Everyone is different. The users will always be poor and the rich get rich because the losers are too stupid to improve their lives. They would rather just bitch about the rich. I have been around for decades and I have personally seen thousands and thousands over the years that had the chance to make their lives better and they refused to do it. There's a price you have to pay for everything, including getting ahead. If you are unwilling to pay anything then you get nothing in return. Many people would just rather be poor than pay the price to get ahead. They just want things handed to them without giving anything in return.
No. You don't have one.Socialism is slavery.
Change my mind.
I've been a manager and a business owner most all of my life, for decades. Opportunities present themselves. People don't take them. Want more hours this week? No. Want more hours every week? No. Want to be a shift supervisor? No. You can transfer to another store across down and go into management. No. If you're willing to relocate to another city the company can offer you a promotion and earn 10K-20K more than you're making now. No. No. No. No. No. No.About six years ago I was renting to a young couple. Good kids, paid their rent late but I was never a stickler about that, I was saddened when they left. Both had minimum wage jobs. The guy worked at McDonald's and she worked at Pizza Hut. They never tried to do better financially because they were both hooked on pot, and neither stood any chance at a better job because they could never pass a drug screen which many better jobs require.
After that I ran into case after case of the same thing in either my line of work or the experiences of others. Yes, I liked my pot too when I was younger, but I'd never let it stand in the way between me and a much better paying job or even career. My only hope is those kids both got off the dope and started to make a path in life. You're not young forever. When you get in your 40's and all you have on your resume is restaurant work, you're not going to get very far in life.
I've been a manager and a business owner most all of my life, for decades. Opportunities present themselves. People don't take them. Want more hours this week? No. Want more hours every week? No. Want to be a shift supervisor? No. You can transfer to another store across down and go into management. No. If you're willing to relocate to another city the company can offer you a promotion and earn 10K-20K more than you're making now. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Your statement reminds me of the late Rush Limbaugh. He said as a child when he didn't finish his dinner, his mother always told him that there are children starving in China. After he heard his mother say that one too many times, and asked her "If I finish everything on my plate, how does that help one starving Chinese child?"
Making government richer to satisfy your hatred of the wealthy won't help one worker. They'd just take the money and waste it as we see this Congress doing now by trying to buy votes. The "tax" we laborers pay is not federal income tax. None of it goes to support the federal government. Your payroll taxes are savings accounts you get back later on in life, or they go for current services like city and state. Nearly half our population pays no actual income tax at all.
For any and all of the flaws of Capitalism- including its unintended consequences - at its core, Capitalism remains the best system. Why else do immigrants from oppressive states and failed middle classes come to America? There may exist a disparity of wages but there also exists the greatest economic opportunity. Change that fact.We are in a current situation where the workers at the bottom cannot get a raise of share in the economy without those in power taking it back from them.
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- The rising wages at the bottom are seen as an evil trend destabilizing the economy
- Company profit margins being higher than ever (basically rising wages at the top) is seen as economically healthy and good
- Companies have raised prices to protect profit margins to historical highs during supply issues taking advantage of shortages in the marketplace is seen as good
- The Uber wealthy continue to accumulate wealth in tough pandemic times and good times (pre and post pandemic) and no one cares
- The answer from those in power will be to raise interest rates, slow the economy to create unemployment hurting the bottom, again
- Tax rates on workers and capital continue to favor capital owners
- Unrealized wealth is only accumulated by the top - hell wealth is only accumulated at the top where top 10% own 89% of the wealth
- CEOs are making a historical multiplier over their workers salary, north of 270X’s
I owe my livelihood to capitalism and make top 1% money but it is the systemic exploitation of the bottom through very powerful controls of capital at the top. There needs to be a more balanced playing field.
How can people who work with their way through life get the same breaks as those who own their way through life? No one wants to take shit away… they want a fair shake.
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