Can't The US do better than Donald Trump or Joe Biden

[Indeependent]

But why do those with sociopathic characteristics succeed?
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I agree 100% with the above! Trump does have sociopathic characteristics that MAKE him succeed! Billionaire. Recognized by billions of viewers.
Totally self involved. And that's the reason why and you have yet to say these following examples are incorrect and more over wrong for the country!
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Why bother conversing with an old fart neo-Con?

 

[BS Filter]

I don't disagree. I feel Biden let's those around him in the executive branch help and make up for some of his failings.
That was the problem with Trump. He was trying to over ride the separation of powers plus he wanted no one in the executive branch who disagreed with him.
That is no way to run any organization, especially to a country.

He wanted loyalty. I'm sure different opinions were fine. What's not ok is undermining or leaking.

 

[yidnar]

Did you see the interviews of him bragging about passing a basic cognitive test like he just aced MENSA?

"They say, that's amazing, how did you do that?" Like a child bragging to mommy.

hey idiot ...Trump isnt in the WH !

 

[ElmerMudd]

hey idiot ...Trump isnt in the WH !

Our goal is he will never be in the White House again.

 

[healthmyths]

Nice cut and paste. You are obviously a darling Trump sheep. But, in truth, it's a load of bullshit.

If you can allow yourself to follow a joke like trump, more power to you.

I'm sure you mean well, but you would do well to open your mind to the truth about the orange swindler you obviously adore.

Try reading more widely, to educate yourself. Get past the right wing horseshit sites.

Think about how Trump turns on his closest supporters as soon as they refuse to lie for him, or kiss his fat ass.

Learn how Trump swindled investors, suppliers, nearly anyone stupid enough to do "business" with the con man. Swindled college students. Lies 24 hours a day. And these are but a few of the lying clown's problems. Hell, anyone with a brain would take a bath in bleach after touching this...disgusting thing.

I hate Biden, too. He's
worthless and incompetent, too.

But the OP's question is, WHY we can't do better than these two laughable clowns.

I say it's our fault for settling for some of the worst politicians money can buy. We can certainly do better. A good start might be for dems and repubs to stop thinking of each other as enemies. Like it or not we're all Americans. And this is still (for the time being) the finest country on the planet. And it is still worth saving.

Neither side has all the answers. But when we refuse to work together we become our own worst enemy.

By the way, I'm an Indie and I take it seriously. I vote the person, not the ******* party. Imo, BOTH parties suck.

Oh I agree that both parties suck as they are both party first, America second. That's why the GOP are so reluctant to support Trump...he puts America first. Just curious why was Trump one of only 3 presidents to do something simple for them?

So tell me these were not accomplishments...
A) Has Biden donated his presidential salary? Trump did as 2 other presidents did.
B) Trump first president in 62 years to make energy independent.
C) All in spite of the MSM donating 96% to Hillary, 90% to Biden and the 3 networks in span of 3 months donating $400 million in negative news.

Broadcast networks deliver 92% negative coverage for Trump, 66% positive for Biden: Study

The country’s major broadcast news media outlets have never been more negatively biased against a sitting president than Donald Trump, a conservative media watchdog has concluded in its latest study, which found President Trump receives negatively-slanted coverage 92% of the time in network news...

www.washingtontimes.com

D) At the direction of Trump, the Department of Energy (DOE) will fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to its maximum capacity by purchasing 77 million barrels of American-made crude oil. To 714 million barrels capacity of SPR... under Trump...!

Department of Energy Executes On Direction Of President Trump, Announces Solicitation To Purchase Crude Oil For The SPR To Provide Relief To American Energy Industry

At the direction of the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, the Department of Energy (DOE) will fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

www.energy.gov

But under Biden today??? Strategic Petroleum Reserve Stocks is at a current level of 427.16M,
US Crude Oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve Stocks But what has Biden Done?
Biden Sells Oil to China from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve
E) Nearly two years since the signing of the Abraham Accords — U.S.-brokered agreements normalizing Israeli relations with the UAE and Bahrain the bilateral hope and promise encapsulated in that diplomatic achievement have borne fruit in several arenas. This is particularly the case between Israel and the UAE, underscored most recently by the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) signed between the two countries on May 31. Indeed, the agreement follows a steady pace of warming ties and joint endeavors since the two countries agreed to normalize relations in 2020.

Historic UAE-Israel Trade Deal Proves Abraham Accords' Resilience

Nearly two years since the signing of the Abraham Accords — U.S.-brokered agreements normalizing Israeli relations with the UAE and Bahrain — the bilateral hope and promise encapsulated in that diplomatic achievement have borne fruit in several arenas. This is particularly the case between...

www.usip.org

F) Campaign Press Release - FACT: President Trump's Economy Delivered Huge Wage Growth For Workers | The American Presidency Project

• According to the Wall Street Journal, wages for "rank-and-file" workers were growing at the fastest rate in a decade, outpacing those of their bosses.
• Wages for the bottom quarter of workers were outpacing gains for high income workers.
• Wages for Black Americans were growing even faster. After years of stagnation, President Trump's economy finally accelerated wage growth for Black workers.

Now please refute the above and the following accomplishments by this totally anti-party, pro-American loud mouth, braggart billionaire.

 

[dblack]

You duopoly freaks vote for them. WTF are you talking about?

Most of the people in this thread vote for them. And then ***** about the poor results.

 

[monkrules]

Oh I agree that both parties suck as they are both party first, America second. That's why the GOP are so reluctant to support Trump...he puts America first. Just curious why was Trump one of only 3 presidents to do something simple for them?

So tell me these were not accomplishments...
A) Has Biden donated his presidential salary? Trump did as 2 other presidents did.
B) Trump first president in 62 years to make energy independent.
C) All in spite of the MSM donating 96% to Hillary, 90% to Biden and the 3 networks in span of 3 months donating $400 million in negative news.

Broadcast networks deliver 92% negative coverage for Trump, 66% positive for Biden: Study

The country’s major broadcast news media outlets have never been more negatively biased against a sitting president than Donald Trump, a conservative media watchdog has concluded in its latest study, which found President Trump receives negatively-slanted coverage 92% of the time in network news...

www.washingtontimes.com

D) At the direction of Trump, the Department of Energy (DOE) will fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) to its maximum capacity by purchasing 77 million barrels of American-made crude oil. To 714 million barrels capacity of SPR... under Trump...!

Department of Energy Executes On Direction Of President Trump, Announces Solicitation To Purchase Crude Oil For The SPR To Provide Relief To American Energy Industry

At the direction of the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, the Department of Energy (DOE) will fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

www.energy.gov

But under Biden today??? Strategic Petroleum Reserve Stocks is at a current level of 427.16M,
US Crude Oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve Stocks But what has Biden Done?
Biden Sells Oil to China from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve
E) Nearly two years since the signing of the Abraham Accords — U.S.-brokered agreements normalizing Israeli relations with the UAE and Bahrain the bilateral hope and promise encapsulated in that diplomatic achievement have borne fruit in several arenas. This is particularly the case between Israel and the UAE, underscored most recently by the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) signed between the two countries on May 31. Indeed, the agreement follows a steady pace of warming ties and joint endeavors since the two countries agreed to normalize relations in 2020.

Historic UAE-Israel Trade Deal Proves Abraham Accords' Resilience

Nearly two years since the signing of the Abraham Accords — U.S.-brokered agreements normalizing Israeli relations with the UAE and Bahrain — the bilateral hope and promise encapsulated in that diplomatic achievement have borne fruit in several arenas. This is particularly the case between...

www.usip.org

F) Campaign Press Release - FACT: President Trump's Economy Delivered Huge Wage Growth For Workers | The American Presidency Project

• According to the Wall Street Journal, wages for "rank-and-file" workers were growing at the fastest rate in a decade, outpacing those of their bosses.
• Wages for the bottom quarter of workers were outpacing gains for high income workers.
• Wages for Black Americans were growing even faster. After years of stagnation, President Trump's economy finally accelerated wage growth for Black workers.

Now please refute the above and the following accomplishments by this totally anti-party, pro-American loud mouth, braggart billionaire.View attachment 703883

Give it up already, you ******* dumbass. You have your head up trump's ass and NOTHING will ever convince you to pull it out.

I'd never waste time reading all your cut and paste nonsense. Grow a brain. Try to read some unbiased information, then maybe you'll get a small glimmer of understanding about what a sick, disgusting degenerate your orange Gawd truly is.

 

[Mac1958]

hey idiot ...Trump isnt in the WH !

And yet we see adoring Trump tribute threads and posts a zillion times a day here.

Your TDS is showing.

 

[SweetSue92]

And yet we see adoring Trump tribute threads and posts a zillion times a day here.

Your TDS is showing.

Oh hey, Ol' Mac, didn't you vote for the Demented Basement Dummy?

Tell us again how we need to come together to find a new way forward after spending the last six years spraying your Trump Derangement all over this board. Tell us, Mac. Its seems sane

 

[basquebromance]

Can't The US do better than Donald Trump or Joe Biden.
There is no doubt that Donald Trump is mentally ill. He has the traits of narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder, according to the DSM-5.
And poor Joe Biden. God bless him but the guy is losing it. His mental acuity has been diminished with age.

We need someone new in 2024.

President Donald Trump

President Donald J. Trump has completely upended traditional ideas about leadership and politics. In doing so, he has sparked tremendous psychological interest—from the traits of his character, to the emotions he elicits from the public, to the point at which mental health becomes a question of...

www.psychologytoday.com

The 'Shared Psychosis' of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it

www.scientificamerican.com

what candidate would you like to see? i'll destroy them with my oppo research

 

[Mac1958]

Our goal is he will never be in the White House again.

Not that it really matters at this point, but we now have a former President of United States, fully aware that his heavily-armed and unhinged base thinks it's "at war", threatening (in all caps, no less) the life of Mitch McConnell.

This is a clearly unwell person controlling most of one of our major parties, communicating with terribly-manipulate and rageful people who are threatening violence daily. While I no longer maintain any standards for this person, I have to admit that this one surprised me a bit. There is no bottom.

 

[theHawk]

This is an ugly indictment of us as a society. It's a terrible choice, and we asked for it.

It's also a reminder that our "system" incentivizes and rewards the worst behaviors of its participants. This continues unless and until we fix it.

Until then, we deserve what we get.

You can always hope for Liz Cheney.

 

[theHawk]

Not that it really matters at this point, but we now have a former President of United States, fully aware that his heavily-armed and unhinged base thinks it's "at war", threatening (in all caps, no less) the life of Mitch McConnell.

This is a clearly unwell person controlling most of one of our major parties, communicating with terribly-manipulate and rageful people who are threatening violence daily. While I no longer maintain any standards for this person, I have to admit that this one surprised me a bit. There is no bottom.

Of course it upsets you when The Donald speaks the truth.

Do you support Mitch McConnell approving these trillions in spending? Mitch apparently does have a death wish for his political career….as well as for the country as he wants to bankrupt us.

 

[theHawk]

It's also a reminder that our "system" incentivizes and rewards the worst behaviors of its participants

As long as groomers keep getting elected or stealing elections, that won’t change.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

B) Trump first president in 62 years to make energy independent.

As I recall, the given definition of "energy independent" was exporting more oil than we imported.

U.S. Exports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels)

U.S. Imports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)

www.eia.gov

so....

US Exports...117,665,000 barrels of oil for the month of July 2022.

US Imports...6,604,000 barrels of oil for the month of July 2022.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Of course it upsets you when The Donald speaks the truth.

Do you support Mitch McConnell approving these trillions in spending? Mitch apparently does have a death wish for his political career….as well as for the country as he wants to bankrupt us.

Trump said nothing about his political career.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump said nothing about his political career.

What is your best guess: Does that poster not understand the point my post, or does he fully understand it and is just spinning (thereby essentially confirming it)?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What is your best guess: Does that poster not understand the point my post, or does he fully understand it and is just spinning (thereby essentially confirming it)?

When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and they would still vote for him, TheHawk is who he was speaking of, and he was 100% correct.

Trump could literally come to his house and shit on his pillow and he would ask for more.

 

[Mac1958]

When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and they would still vote for him, TheHawk is who he was speaking of, and he was 100% correct.

Trump could literally come to his house and shit on his pillow and he would ask for more.

So you think he just doesn't see or understand the point of my post?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So you think he just doesn't see or understand the point of my post?

I do not think he understands at all, he is too far gone to get such things.