Can you libs not agree with anything Trump said in his SOTU speech?

[rightwinger]

Trump proposed eliminating taxes on waitress tips, overtime, and SS. Libs always complain that the middle class get no breaks, but what about working overtime? Those are hourly jobs, held by poor, working class and some middle class. Retirees also have limited incomes. What happened to giving a break to these people?

I think taxes on ALL low income workers should be cut.
I don’t see why a bartender or waitress in a restaurant should get tax free income while the guy washing dishes or mopping floors should pay full taxes

Also, not everyone working for tips is low income. Waiters and bartenders in high end establishments can make six figures

 

[cnm]

Canadiens have been our friends for a long time. You get the better part of the deal currently. The inflation here affected people. Pissed them off. And the Progs kept passing trillions of dollars in useless party hack legislation. Any Prog politician that talks moderately in D.C. and then votes for the Prog derived extreme legislation are frauds.

What do you mean by 'the better part of the deal'?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump also said that kids are okay the way they were made. He was discussing people attempt to turn little kids into transsexuals. They panned the crowd and two men did not clap. What kind of man abuses kids to the point of making him a freak of nature?

Shows how backward and cruel that Republicans can be.
They refuse to accept a persons sexuality and insist they must conform to their biological sex.
No, Grooming does not exist. You can’t force someone into a sex they do not want

 

[M14 Shooter]

1 Pay a living wage, get rid of tips, the US has gone crazy there.

2 Stop worrying about other people's genitalia. They can do that themselves.

Your hatred for Trump must consume you. You have my pity.

 

[strollingbones]

 

[22lcidw]

Bite me with this tired argument. I DID NOT support Biden and his administration.

You along with so many others need to seek out some deprogramming that leads you to think this way.

Lying about Joe's cerebral problems is not a deprogramming issue. Progs have won near everything over the last several decades. There is not enough money to subsidize their agendas as there were in the past. Pushing Excessiveness has garnered pushback. The sad thing is, that people are happy or not happy depending on who is elected. Trump is the result of politics. Progs are the Maginot Line as they get their marching orders and then get in sync and repeat the same words on an issue while Trump is blitzkrieg and has several more irons in the fire since the issue while Progs are still gloating on their latest smearing endeavors.

 

[CowboyTed]

So I have been reading posts and don’t see a lib agreeing with anything. Is there anything?

I’ll start with two things Trump said.

Trump proposed eliminating taxes on waitress tips, overtime, and SS. Libs always complain that the middle class get no breaks, but what about working overtime? Those are hourly jobs, held by poor, working class and some middle class. Retirees also have limited incomes. What happened to giving a break to these people?

Sounds good but watch this and you can see it is not the solution. There are better ways that won't become a huge tax loophole.

Trump also said that kids are okay the way they were made. He was discussing people attempt to turn little kids into transsexuals. They panned the crowd and two men did not clap. What kind of man abuses kids to the point of making him a freak of nature? Certainly, normal people should be able to agree on that, should they not?

IT is a red herring...

Gender-affirming surgeries rarely performed on transgender youth | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

A new Harvard Chan School study found little to no utilization of gender-affirming surgeries by transgender and gender-diverse minors in the U.S.

hsph.harvard.edu

You know what by far is the top gender affirmation surgery is even after that...

Normal Boys who develop breasts during puberty. Happens not from weight but from hormone imbalance... It is called gynecomastia.

Opinion | How come gender-affirming surgeries like mine don’t stir up controversy

Cisgender children seek gender-affirming care without being scrutinized endlessly and demonized. Trans kids deserve the same consideration.

www.nbcnews.com

Have look at Last week tonight's piece on it, it is eye opening... You can see that MAGA are way over hyping it, it is rare and takes on massive considerations

 

[pknopp]

Lying about Joe's cerebral problems is not a deprogramming issue.

Then maybe you shouldn't have routinely done so to deflect from his issues.

 

[Winston]

So I have been reading posts and don’t see a lib agreeing with anything. Is there anything?

I’ll start with two things Trump said.

Trump proposed eliminating taxes on waitress tips, overtime, and SS. Libs always complain that the middle class get no breaks, but what about working overtime? Those are hourly jobs, held by poor, working class and some middle class. Retirees also have limited incomes. What happened to giving a break to these people?

I will play. First, taxes on tips.

I got to hand it to you. If you are a server, and you are paying federal income taxes, then you are a power server in a damn good spot. Few and far between. Been there, done that. But what you do pay, and your employer pays, is FICA, the social security and Medicare tax. And it is paid on tips. The IRS keeps records of credit card tips, match it to the individual. And the restaurants are required to "allocate" at least eight percent of a server's sales as tips. Even with tipout requirements, still eight percent. That is what those Social Security taxes are based on, that is what the employer pays his share on. That is what the server's retirement, disability, and survival benefits are based on.

Poof, if it is not taxed, that record keeping goes away. Two things happen. First, the server loses those benefits. Gone, poof. But second, the restaurant no longer has to pay their share of those FICA taxes. Who wins here?

Then there is overtime. Talk about Lucy jerking away the football. No taxes on overtime, sounds great. But with planned changes in overtime rules, only the lowest paid workers will even qualify for overtime, they don't pay federal income taxes anyway.

Then Social Security. I admit, there is a problem, the triggers were never indexed for inflation. But the revenue from those taxes is important. Just adjust the triggers, the wholesale elimination of that revenue benefits only the highest income earners.

 

[Winston]

No tax on tips, overtime or Social Security is PEANUTS for working people. A minimum wage of at least $15 per hour would give them a LOT more money than no tax on tips, or overtime. While reducing earned income credits, and reliance on food stamps and other government supports.

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No tax on tips, overtime or Social Security is PEANUTS for working people. A minimum wage of at least $15 per hour would give them a LOT more money than no tax on tips, or overtime. While reducing earned income credits, and reliance on food stamps and other government supports.

Given that the average wages and tips for waiters are around $18,000 to $23,000 per year, and you don't pay federal income taxes if you make less than $32,000 per year, how much of a "tax reduction" are ANY these people going to receive?

Trump makes it sound like this will be HUGE for working people, but it's NOTHING.

You are absolutely right. In all three areas Trump is offering nothing to the real working class. And when you drill down, he is really giving them a beating.

 

[Moonglow]

So I have been reading posts and don’t see a lib agreeing with anything. Is there anything?

I’ll start with two things Trump said.

Trump proposed eliminating taxes on waitress tips, overtime, and SS. Libs always complain that the middle class get no breaks, but what about working overtime? Those are hourly jobs, held by poor, working class and some middle class. Retirees also have limited incomes. What happened to giving a break to these people?

Trump also said that kids are okay the way they were made. He was discussing people attempt to turn little kids into transsexuals. They panned the crowd and two men did not clap. What kind of man abuses kids to the point of making him a freak of nature? Certainly, normal people should be able to agree on that, should they not?

Trump announced that Elon Musk is the head of Doge after claiming last week he wasn't.. Which lie is it with the stupid bitch?

 

[Cellblock2429]

So I have been reading posts and don’t see a lib agreeing with anything. Is there anything?

I’ll start with two things Trump said.

Trump proposed eliminating taxes on waitress tips, overtime, and SS. Libs always complain that the middle class get no breaks, but what about working overtime? Those are hourly jobs, held by poor, working class and some middle class. Retirees also have limited incomes. What happened to giving a break to these people?

Trump also said that kids are okay the way they were made. He was discussing people attempt to turn little kids into transsexuals. They panned the crowd and two men did not clap. What kind of man abuses kids to the point of making him a freak of nature? Certainly, normal people should be able to agree on that, should they not?

/——/ TDS prevents democRATs from agreeing with Trump on anything.

 

[Winston]

Trump announced that Elon Musk is the head of Doge after claiming last week he wasn't.. Which lie is it with the stupid bitch?

The Deep State. Trump is going to destroy the Deep State. Meanwhile,

The richest man in the world spends 250 million dollars, and buys a media platform, just to get you elected. Now he has got snot nosed kids demanding access to sensitive information on every single American. Auditing various government departments, initiated illegal terminations, and then has the audacity to bill the department for their services. Flippin comical.

 

[Winston]

/——/ TDS prevents democRATs from agreeing with Trump on anything.
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[Mac-7]

I was happy to see even some democrats applauding the First Lady for her effort to protect young girls online

 

[Care4all]

How can anyone support such a low life, classless, lying prick???

His supposed State of the Union was a lying campaign speech, bashing half of Americans....he's a dickhead, and you think he should be supported by the people he spent 90 minutes, bullying and insulting?

Have you lost your mind?

He was a total embarrassment on the American and World stage with the worst supposed State of the Union, EVER!

Shame on him, and shame on you for supporting his stand up Act!

 

[SweetTea]

No tax on tips, overtime or Social Security is PEANUTS for working people. A minimum wage of at least $15 per hour would give them a LOT more money than no tax on tips, or overtime. While reducing earned income credits, and reliance on food stamps and other government supports.

In other words, let the government dictate the free market. Let’s make the minimum wage $40/hr. Why not?

If you're not paying taxes, you get nothing from these promises - that's HALF of all people filing taxes.

I pay taxes and these cuts won’t help me and I make more than 33k/yr. I am not on Social Security and don’t get tips. Are you saying that cutting taxes on these items won’t help anyone? For those that dont pay taxes, no, they don’t get a cut. That would be welfare, kind of like the child tax credit, which is fully refundable and those that don’t pay any taxes get it for each kid they have under the age of 18.

My parents and in-laws are on SS. They will benefit from no taxes on SS. Money aside, taxing people on money they paid in for decades with no interest is morally abhorrent.

 

[cnm]

As a liberal, I'm allowed to disagree with Democrats ... does that count? ...

I've said this before, just because I HATE Republican policies doesn't mean I'm right ... I am a liberal after all ... this is what we voted for, smaller government means smaller government ... Democrats might not understand that ...

Probably because it's a Republican policy.

 

[SweetTea]

How can anyone support such a low life, classless, lying prick???

His supposed State of the Union was a lying campaign speech, bashing half of Americans....he's a dickhead, and you think he should be supported by the people he spent 90 minutes, bullying and insulting?

Have you lost your mind?

Who did he bully and insult?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

No tax on tips, overtime or Social Security is PEANUTS for working people. A minimum wage of at least $15 per hour would give them a LOT more money than no tax on tips, or overtime. While reducing earned income credits, and reliance on food stamps and other government supports.

Given that the average wages and tips for waiters are around $18,000 to $23,000 per year, and you don't pay federal income taxes if you make less than $32,000 per year, how much of a "tax reduction" are ANY these people going to receive?

Trump makes it sound like this will be HUGE for working people, but it's NOTHING.

$15 would mean less jobs. And further continue the kiosk employee replacement. And prices would go up to reflect the higher wage cost.
So, no it would not help