Can you be critical of your own side?

[JanetTheGreat]

Citizens have to work Janet. You and I are outliers. We take time out of our busy lives to stay informed. That's its own sacrifice though. You know it is. You can't expect everybody to stay informed.

Perhaps you have a point, however, misinformed people come to misinformed conclusions - as the majority, that leads to stupid decisions being made by the voting class.

 

[alang1216]

I’m not asking what you think about the people you oppose. That part’s easy. Anyone can point out flaws in their enemies. What I’m interested in is whether you can be just as honest about the people you support. Can you look at your own side and call out the weaknesses, the bad habits, the blind spots, the corruption, the parts you wish were better? Most people claim they care about truth, but only apply scrutiny to the outgroup. I want to see how many here can apply the same lens inward. Be specific. Be fair. No whataboutism, no switching targets. Just your side, your critique, your honesty.

Not easy to do but I try. The Dems are too focused on things that don't affect average Americans.

 

[Anomalism]

Not easy to do but I try. The Dems are too focused on things that don't affect average Americans.

Elaborate?

 

[Luckyone]

I’m not asking what you think about the people you oppose. That part’s easy. Anyone can point out flaws in their enemies. What I’m interested in is whether you can be just as honest about the people you support. Can you look at your own side and call out the weaknesses, the bad habits, the blind spots, the corruption, the parts you wish were better? Most people claim they care about truth, but only apply scrutiny to the outgroup. I want to see how many here can apply the same lens inward. Be specific. Be fair. No whataboutism, no switching targets. Just your side, your critique, your honesty.

You are asking people the one thing that most (99%) can never do. Admit to being wrong.

It takes a real man (or woman) that is not 100% interested in anything but himself, to do something that requires morals, ethics, and principles. Those are in very low supply. One in perhaps 50 or even 100, are able to do that. On this board and on the right side of politics, they do not even exist.

 

[Anomalism]

Perhaps you have a point, however, misinformed people come to misinformed conclusions - as the majority, that leads to stupid decisions being made by the voting class.

People absolutely reach bad conclusions when they’re misinformed; that part I don’t disagree with. But it’s not because the average person is stupid. It’s because the average person is overloaded. You can’t work full-time, raise kids, deal with bills, manage stress, and then also decode political strategy, economic policy, media bias, propaganda, and scientific nuance on top of it.

Misinformation isn’t the voter’s fault. It’s the environment’s fault. An overworked population with limited time is always going to be vulnerable to simplistic narratives. That’s not a moral failure; it’s a bandwidth failure. Expecting the majority to behave like full-time analysts is unrealistic. If the information landscape were healthier, the outcomes would be healthier too.

 

[Luckyone]

Not easy to do but I try. The Dems are too focused on things that don't affect average Americans.

you mean welfare, correct wages, health insurance and human rights?

 

[Anomalism]

you mean welfare, correct wages, health insurance and human rights?

You're not contributing to the heart of the thread.

...

BOOOOOOO!!!!

 

[JanetTheGreat]

People absolutely reach bad conclusions when they’re misinformed; that part I don’t disagree with. But it’s not because the average person is stupid. It’s because the average person is overloaded. You can’t work full-time, raise kids, deal with bills, manage stress, and then also decode political strategy, economic policy, media bias, propaganda, and scientific nuance on top of it.

Misinformation isn’t the voter’s fault. It’s the environment’s fault. An overworked population with limited time is always going to be vulnerable to simplistic narratives. That’s not a moral failure; it’s a bandwidth failure. Expecting the majority to behave like full-time analysts is unrealistic. If the information landscape were healthier, the outcomes would be healthier too.

It is a combination of everything, yes.

 

[alang1216]

Elaborate?

The GOP baits the Dems with issues like boys in women's locker rooms and Dems are too often stupid enough to take the bait. How many people will ever be confronted by transgender people in real life? This is certainly not a national issue the Dems need to address.

 

[Anomalism]

The GOP baits the Dems with issues like boys in women's locker rooms and Dems are too often stupid enough to take the bait. How many people will ever be confronted by transgender people in real life? This is certainly not a national issue the Dems need to address.

I agree that Democrats fucked up when they started championing the views of minority populations.

 

[Blisterfinger]

That's an impressive omission, in my opinion anyway.

"Maybe there's a better way."

Props.

Maybe we should just ask them to leave LOL.
Any ideas?

 

[sparky]

No whataboutism, no switching targets. Just your side, your critique, your honesty.

Yes.......the problem is both 'sides' are basically guilty of what they accuse each other of Anomalism........after a while one realizes it's all political theater engineered to play both ends towards the middle......~S~

 

[Leo123]

I'm sick and tired of the Marijuana scare for one. I also would like some now illegal recreational drugs made legal so they can be known as to their ingredients and strength. Also, Trump needs to bring down prices or he's done because despite his great advances around the world 'it's the economy stupid."

 

[ThisIsMe]

I’m not asking what you think about the people you oppose. That part’s easy. Anyone can point out flaws in their enemies. What I’m interested in is whether you can be just as honest about the people you support. Can you look at your own side and call out the weaknesses, the bad habits, the blind spots, the corruption, the parts you wish were better? Most people claim they care about truth, but only apply scrutiny to the outgroup. I want to see how many here can apply the same lens inward. Be specific. Be fair. No whataboutism, no switching targets. Just your side, your critique, your honesty.

I can, and I have.

Ive said I think trump isnt very presidential, he doesnt act like what I think a president should. I dont like how he has to boast about himself ALL the time. Sometimes I wish he.were a bit more humble, granted, I think you have to be narcissistic to be president, to think that YOU are the ONLY person who can fix the country, but he takes it to the extreme.

Im not sold on the tariffs completely.

Im sure there are other things that I cant think of right now.

 

[Anomalism]

I can, and I have

Good. Do it. Here.

Hit me.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hit me.

Id rather not...I dont resort to violence


Also, id like to note the absence of democrats participating in this discussion....telling...

 

[Anomalism]

Id rather not...I dont resort to violence


Also, id like to note the absence of democrats participating in this discussion....telling...

There's a couple. I have been here for years. The average seems to be leaning conservative.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Good. Do it. Here.

Hit me.

Post 74

 

[Blisterfinger]

Yes.......the problem is both 'sides' are basically guilty of what they accuse each other of Anomalism........after a while one realizes it's all political theater engineered to play both ends towards the middle......~S~

Actually bothsidesism is a Giant cop out.

 

[Blisterfinger]

That's an impressive omission, in my opinion anyway.

"Maybe there's a better way."

Props.

So you've got nothing huh? Props