Can we talk about the connection between Obama and the unemployment rate?

[Billy000]

People have very short term memories. They are forgetting just how bad the 2008 crisis was. People seem to think it is Obama's fault the recovery is so slow yet Obama is the reason we have a recovery at all. During Bush's final months and Obama's early months, we lost several MILLION private sector jobs. It wasn't until Obama's stimulus package came into effect that the free fall began to level and eventually the private sector began to CREATE jobs rather than lose them. Here is the timeline as follows.

September 2008 – 432,000 jobs lost
October 2008 – 489,000 jobs lost
November 2008 – 803,000 jobs lost
December 2008 – 661,000 jobs lost[2]
January 2009 – 818,000 jobs lost
February 2009 – 724,000 jobs lost
March 2009 – 799,000 jobs lost
April 2009 – 692,000 jobs lost
May 2009 – 361,000 jobs lost
June 2009 – 482,000 jobs lost
July 2009 – 339,000 jobs lost
August 2009 – 231,000 jobs lost
September 2009 – 199,000 jobs lost
October 2009 – 202,000 jobs lost[3]
November 2009 - 64,000 jobs created[4]
December 2009 - 109,000 jobs lost[4]
January 2010 - 40,000 jobs lost[4]
February 2010 - 35,000 jobs lost
March 2010 - 189,000 jobs created
April 2010 - 239,000 jobs created
May 2010 - 516,000 jobs created
June 2010 - 167,000 jobs lost
July 2010 - 58,000 jobs lost (143,000 Federal Census jobs lost) [5]
August 2010 - 51,000 jobs lost
September 2010 - 27,000 jobs lost (According to U.S. Labor Department, 64,000 private sector jobs are added but a net loss of 95,000 jobs are due to government layoffs) [6][7]
October 2010 - 220,000 jobs created (Private sector jobs net increase)
November 2010 - 121,000 jobs created
December 2010 - 120,000 jobs created
January 2011 - 110,000 jobs created
February 2011 - 220,000 jobs created
March 2011 - 246,000 jobs created
April 2011 - 251,000 jobs created
May 2011 - 54,000 jobs created
June 2011 - 84,000 jobs created
July 2011 - 96,000 jobs created
August 2011 - 85,000 jobs created
September 2011 - 202,000 jobs created
October 2011 - 112,000 jobs created
November 2011 - 157,000 jobs created
December 2011 - 223,000 jobs created
January 2012 - 275,000 jobs created
February 2012 - 259,000 jobs created
March 2012 - 143,000 jobs created
April 2012 - 68,000 jobs created
May 2012 - 87,000 jobs created
June 2012 - 45,000 jobs created
July 2012 - 181,000 jobs created
August 2012 - 142,000 jobs created
September 2012 - 114,000 jobs created
2008 (September 2008 – December 2008) – 2.6 million jobs lost
2009 (January 2009 – December 2009) – 4.2 million jobs lost[8]
2010 (January 2010-December 2010) - 863,000 jobs created.

Here is unbiased proof that the economic job recovery can be directly attributed to Obama's 787 billion stimulus package.

Why Extended Federal Unemployment Benefits Boost the Economy

So while it is definitely true the economy is still in bad shape, there is still no denying that we are in a recovery. While the number could be higher, we are still adding 100,000s of jobs each month. It's slow, but it is still a recovery. The main reason why our economy is so bad is because of the several millions of jobs we lost in the first place. Get that through your skulls. Why you righty tighties won't give Obama credit for anything good he has done is beyond me. You want to hold onto this republican mentality that Obama can do nothing right and that is complete bullshit.

The truth of the matter is that 2.5X more jobs have been created under Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8. Not all, but most of those can be attributed directly to Obama's policies.

Obama?s Numbers, October Update

 

[blackhawk]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

 

[Billy000]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

 

[The Rabbi]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

So Obama deserves the credit for the recovery, but not the blame for high continued unemployment and low workforce participation rate?
How's that work?
Another troll thread from a Dem-dupe.

 

[Billy000]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

So Obama deserves the credit for the recovery, but not the blame for high continued unemployment and low workforce participation rate?
How's that work?
Another troll thread from a Dem-dupe.

The main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because of the amount of jobs we lost in the first place. It is completely stupid to blame Obama for people dropping out of the workforce.

 

[The Rabbi]

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

So Obama deserves the credit for the recovery, but not the blame for high continued unemployment and low workforce participation rate?
How's that work?
Another troll thread from a Dem-dupe.

The main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because of the amount of jobs we lost in the first place. It is completely stupid to blame Obama for people dropping out of the workforce.

So his polciies encouraged people to buy and expand businesses but didnt discourage people from looking for work? How does that happen?
Oh yeah, it doesn.t We have the worst recovery on record. The deep recession should have produced a very strong recovery. That is what happens. But not this time. Because Obama wanted to help his constituents. Not the American people. Union members, SEIU trial lawyers and other Democrat donors at the expense of average Americans. People are worse off today than they were the day Bush left office.

 

[Billy000]

So Obama deserves the credit for the recovery, but not the blame for high continued unemployment and low workforce participation rate?
How's that work?
Another troll thread from a Dem-dupe.

The main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because of the amount of jobs we lost in the first place. It is completely stupid to blame Obama for people dropping out of the workforce.

So his polciies encouraged people to buy and expand businesses but didnt discourage people from looking for work? How does that happen?
Oh yeah, it doesn.t We have the worst recovery on record. The deep recession should have produced a very strong recovery. That is what happens. But not this time. Because Obama wanted to help his constituents. Not the American people. Union members, SEIU trial lawyers and other Democrat donors at the expense of average Americans. People are worse off today than they were the day Bush left office.

You're not getting this. Just becuase the uemployment insurace was extended, it does not mean it was unlimited. People who lost their jobs still looked for new ones. But guess what? Many of them can't find any! Why? Well obviously its because we lost so many.

Obama helped the entire country, that includes the right.

You people have no concept of time. Of course people are worse off under Obama than Bush. The crisis happened 4 months before Obama came into Office. For Christs sakes. Get that through your skull. The crisis of 2008 would obviously spill into 2009 and beyond.

 

[blackhawk]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

The point is you had no answer to my questions I think we all know why if we actually counted those who have dropped out of the workforce the unemployment rate would near or possibly above 10% and if the jobs being created are part time or low skill low pay jobs the Obama recovery looks even weaker than it already does.

 

[Billy000]

Did you count the number of people who have dropped out of the workforce and stopped looking for work? Of the jobs created how many are full time and part time what type of jobs are being created? What type of jobs being created is as important if not more important than the number created.

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

The point is you had no answer to my questions I think we all know why if we actually counted those who have dropped out of the workforce the unemployment rate would near or possibly above 10% and if the jobs being created are part time or low skill low pay jobs the Obama recovery looks even weaker than it already does.

Explain to me why it is Obama's fault so many people are dropping out the workforce. It's not politics. That is just the nature of our great recession. Shit goes bad.

 

[blackhawk]

The main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because of the amount of jobs we lost in the first place. It is completely stupid to blame Obama for people dropping out of the workforce.

So his polciies encouraged people to buy and expand businesses but didnt discourage people from looking for work? How does that happen?
Oh yeah, it doesn.t We have the worst recovery on record. The deep recession should have produced a very strong recovery. That is what happens. But not this time. Because Obama wanted to help his constituents. Not the American people. Union members, SEIU trial lawyers and other Democrat donors at the expense of average Americans. People are worse off today than they were the day Bush left office.

You're not getting this. Just becuase the uemployment insurace was extended, it does not mean it was unlimited. People who lost their jobs still looked for new ones. But guess what? Many of them can't find any! Why? Well obviously its because we lost so many.

Obama helped the entire country, that includes the right.

You people have no concept of time. Of course people are worse off under Obama than Bush. The crisis happened 4 months before Obama came into Office. For Christs sakes. Get that through your skull. The crisis of 2008 would obviously spill into 2009 and beyond.

Get it through your head we will soon be in 2014 and starting the sixth year of the Obama Presidency the blame Bush stuff only still fly's with the truly partisan left.

 

[Billy000]

So his polciies encouraged people to buy and expand businesses but didnt discourage people from looking for work? How does that happen?
Oh yeah, it doesn.t We have the worst recovery on record. The deep recession should have produced a very strong recovery. That is what happens. But not this time. Because Obama wanted to help his constituents. Not the American people. Union members, SEIU trial lawyers and other Democrat donors at the expense of average Americans. People are worse off today than they were the day Bush left office.

You're not getting this. Just becuase the uemployment insurace was extended, it does not mean it was unlimited. People who lost their jobs still looked for new ones. But guess what? Many of them can't find any! Why? Well obviously its because we lost so many.

Obama helped the entire country, that includes the right.

You people have no concept of time. Of course people are worse off under Obama than Bush. The crisis happened 4 months before Obama came into Office. For Christs sakes. Get that through your skull. The crisis of 2008 would obviously spill into 2009 and beyond.

Get it through your head we will soon be in 2014 and starting the sixth year of the Obama Presidency the blame Bush stuff only still fly's with the truly partisan left.

I am not even blaming Bush. I am just talking about a crisis that happened a mere 4 months before Obama came into office.

 

[blackhawk]

The point of this thread is demonstrate that we should be lucky we are in a recovery. It's slow, but we should thank are lucky stars we are in one. Obama deserves most of the credit for it whether you cons like it or not. Had his stimulus package been bigger, we would have even more. I am also trying to convince you that main reason why the unemployment rate is still so high is because we lost several millions of jobs in the first place.

The point is you had no answer to my questions I think we all know why if we actually counted those who have dropped out of the workforce the unemployment rate would near or possibly above 10% and if the jobs being created are part time or low skill low pay jobs the Obama recovery looks even weaker than it already does.

Explain to me why it is Obama's fault so many people are dropping out the workforce. It's not politics. That is just the nature of our great recession. Shit goes bad.

Because the policies of Obama especially his signature piece of legislation Obamacare have put a great deal of uncertainty in the business community when you have that businesses tend to hold back on investment, expansion, and hiring.

 

[Billy000]

The point is you had no answer to my questions I think we all know why if we actually counted those who have dropped out of the workforce the unemployment rate would near or possibly above 10% and if the jobs being created are part time or low skill low pay jobs the Obama recovery looks even weaker than it already does.

Explain to me why it is Obama's fault so many people are dropping out the workforce. It's not politics. That is just the nature of our great recession. Shit goes bad.

Because the policies of Obama especially his signature piece of legislation Obamacare have put a great deal of uncertainty in the business community when you have that businesses tend to hold back on investment, expansion, and hiring.

There is no evidence that ObamaCare has had a SIGNIFICANT negative impact on the economy.

]Big business is making record profits. None of you seem to acknowledge that.

 

[blackhawk]

You're not getting this. Just becuase the uemployment insurace was extended, it does not mean it was unlimited. People who lost their jobs still looked for new ones. But guess what? Many of them can't find any! Why? Well obviously its because we lost so many.

Obama helped the entire country, that includes the right.

You people have no concept of time. Of course people are worse off under Obama than Bush. The crisis happened 4 months before Obama came into Office. For Christs sakes. Get that through your skull. The crisis of 2008 would obviously spill into 2009 and beyond.

Get it through your head we will soon be in 2014 and starting the sixth year of the Obama Presidency the blame Bush stuff only still fly's with the truly partisan left.

I am not even blaming Bush. I am just talking about a crisis that happened a mere 4 months before Obama came into office.

Yes and it's now five years since that crisis.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Billly name one Obama Policy that helped lowering the UE? till where it is today.

Obama and Obama care is the problem with the slow recovery rate.

 

[Billy000]

Get it through your head we will soon be in 2014 and starting the sixth year of the Obama Presidency the blame Bush stuff only still fly's with the truly partisan left.

I am not even blaming Bush. I am just talking about a crisis that happened a mere 4 months before Obama came into office.

Yes and it's now five years since that crisis.

Yep and we are in recovery, mostly because of Obama's policies

 

[HenryBHough]

Imagine how many more would be unemployed had Obama not continued the wars he promised to end. The dead in His wars don't come home to look for work. He probably had that figured out while he was campaigning but lied and said he'd make the whole world love us and bring all the troops home to attend his second set of campaign spectaculars.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I am not even blaming Bush. I am just talking about a crisis that happened a mere 4 months before Obama came into office.

Yes and it's now five years since that crisis.

Yep and we are in recovery, mostly because of Obama's policies

Again name them.

 

[Billy000]

Imagine how many more would be unemployed had Obama not continued the wars he promised to end. The dead in His wars don't come home to look for work. He probably had that figured out while he was campaigning but lied and said he'd make the whole world love us and bring all the troops home to attend his second set of campaign spectaculars.

You do realize that Obama ended the Iraq war right?

 

[Billy000]

Yes and it's now five years since that crisis.

Yep and we are in recovery, mostly because of Obama's policies

Again name them.

Dude I already named them. The links are in my OP. God almighty.