Can Trump Be Trusted With Social Security?

[initforme]

How is it not welfare? Welfare is money the government gives people who meet some set of criteria. That’s exactly what SS is.

People pay into it then collect it. How is that welfare?

 

[justoffal]

It wouldn't be if the original plan and intent was carried out

Exactly and if the greedy politicians kept their goddamned hands out of the cookie jar but that's something they can't resist.

 

[initforme]

Do we expect people to work longer? If so that's sick and twisted. Bad for the nation as well. Leads to unhappiness and misery.

 

[JohnDB]

Exactly and if the greedy politicians kept their goddamned hands out of the cookie jar but that's something they can't resist.

The politicians have authorized payments for those who have never paid in or ever were going to. Especially those from other nations.

That's the problem.

Between FEMA payments and SS payments SS is going broke. SSI, and SSD should NEVER BE PAID TO NON-CITIZENS. AND THEIR CITIZENSHIP SHOULD REQUIRE THE SAME calendar quarters working as citizens.

And chemical dependency is not a sufficient reason for SSD.

 

[Couchpotato]

People pay into it then collect it. How is that welfare?

Same thing can be said of food stamps. The only difference with SS is the criteria. If it’s not welfare why can’t I opt out?

 

[initforme]

Same thing can be said of food stamps. The only difference with SS is the criteria. If it’s not welfare why can’t I opt out?

It's a high form of patriotism.

 

[Couchpotato]

It's a high form of patriotism.

Just say you don’t have an answer. You are high form of stupid.

 

[jc456]

He'll give you a funny, it's his only defense

I know. He's as predictable as the stay puff marshmallow man.

 

[jc456]

Same thing can be said of food stamps. The only difference with SS is the criteria. If it’s not welfare why can’t I opt out?

when do food stamp recipient's pay into the program?

 

[jc456]

Trump Haters are just as much a cult as anything. Completely irrational hatred and dehumanization continues even after TWO ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS. You forgot all about that didn't you Mac?

Mike, that stupid fk can't define a cult.

 

[jc456]

Donald Trump Suggests Cutting Retirement Programs In Incoherent Ramble

The former president said there's "a lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting," but his answer mostly made no sense.

www.huffpost.com

Hard to tell what he talking about CUTTING here but it doesn’t sound good.

Do you trust him?

well let's say he is saying what you're implying, so the worker gets to keep his/ her money to invest in their retirement program and that's bad why?

 

[Lesh]

well let's say he is saying what you're implying, so the worker gets to keep his/ her money to invest in their retirement program and that's bad why?

“To invest”

For one thing if you invest… you have a tendency to hit that money up for emergencies… or that trip you just HAVE to go on.. or whatever.

And the other is that the stock market takes a dump every so often. Like 2008 and 2020.

If that happens any time near or after you retire… you’re fucked without SS

 

[jc456]

“To invest”

For one thing if you invest… you have a tendency to hit that money up for emergencies… or that trip you just HAVE to go on.. or whatever.

And the other is that the stock market takes a dump every so often. Like 2008 and 2020.

If that happens any time near or after you retire… you’re fucked without SS

and what? are you saying people shouldn't have a 401K or IRA? The fact is you can't make a reasonable argument. you must fantasize one.

 

[Couchpotato]

when do food stamp recipient's pay into the program?

Every time they pay taxes. The same time a SS recipient pays into SS.

 

[Couchpotato]

and what? are you saying people shouldn't have a 401K or IRA? The fact is you can't make a reasonable argument. you must fantasize one.

If you invest the money taken out for SS it would be worth far more for most people than SS when they go to collect. It’s also money that can be used to create generational wealth unlike SS

 

[Lesh]

and what? are you saying people shouldn't have a 401K or IRA? The fact is you can't make a reasonable argument. you must fantasize one.

They should. But they NEED a secure SS safety net as well

 

[Couchpotato]

They should. But they NEED a secure SS safety net as well

People “need” SS because the Government has trained them to need it.

 

[Lesh]

People “need” SS because the Government has trained them to need it.

Bullshit

 

[jc456]

They should. But they NEED a secure SS safety net as well

they do based on what?

 

[Couchpotato]

Bullshit

Compelling. People have lived for eons without old people welfare. They put up saved and relied on family. Reliance on the government to provide for you in old age is a new idea. One that’s transferred all kinds of wealth out of the private citizens hands and into the Government’s. And not disproportionately effects the minority community.