Can the Trump supporters explain something to me?

[YoursTruly]

The victory today will be the deficit reduced to the levels or percentage before Covid and go from there.

That's what Chip Roy and the other conservatives wanted. But it's also why Trump is pushing for Chip to be primaried. Because he (chip) wanted spending cuts to at least match pre covid levels.

 

[YoursTruly]

Are you demanding that Republicans not vote for moderate candidates? Sounds very convenient for Democrats lol.

While Trump is a moderate fiscally, he’s no RINO

Being a moderate automatically makes him a RINO..
A RINO is someone who's NOT fiscally conservative. That's exactly what RINO means.

 

[jc456]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

if you know it, why don't you hold your reps accountable?

 

[jc456]

That's what Chip Roy and the other conservatives wanted. But it's also why Trump is pushing for Chip to be primaried. Because he (chip) wanted spending cuts to at least match pre covid levels.

if the tax cuts aren't settled before September, there will be 4 trillion added to the deficit. They need to cut spending or lose 4 trillion. It's that simple.

 

[YoursTruly]

All I know is he's not Biden or Harris, isn't woke, has had lawfare used against him for political purposes, and doesn't want to spend 50 trillion dollars on fighting mother nature. Is there anything else we need to know?

Yeah, there's plenty. Maybe you missed it, but in Trumps 1st 4 years, he spent more than all other Republicans before him. And 99% of the democrats. Combined. The only one who spent more than him (Obama), took him 8 years to do it.
Trump promised to zero out the national debt. And ended up spending more than almost every president before him.

So when you say "All I know is he's not Biden or Harris," I don't know what that even matters. Biden had the same amount of time dealing with Covid, and still didn't spend as much as Trump.
I'm not taking up for Biden. He spent $6 trillion in new money. Which was $6 trillion too much.
Spending is my biggest opposition to the democrats. But when RINO's like Trump spend more, then how TF can any actual conservative support him? Because he's not a democrat? That's a lame excuse.

 

[YoursTruly]

if you know it, why don't you hold your reps accountable?

I do.

 

[jc456]

Yeah, there's plenty. Maybe you missed it, but in Trumps 1st 4 years, he spent more than all other Republicans before him. And 99% of the democrats. Combined. The only one who spent more than him (Obama), took him 8 years to do it.
Trump promised to zero out the national debt. And ended up spending more than almost every president before him.

So when you say "All I know is he's not Biden or Harris," I don't know what that even matters. Biden had the same amount of time dealing with Covid, and still didn't spend as much as Trump.
I'm not taking up for Biden. He spent $6 trillion in new money. Which was $6 trillion too much.
Spending is my biggest opposition to the democrats. But when RINO's like Trump spend more, then how TF can any actual conservative support him? Because he's not a democrat? That's a lame excuse.

you think that 6 trillion did anything to inflation?

 

[YoursTruly]

if the tax cuts aren't settled before September, there will be 4 trillion added to the deficit. They need to cut spending or lose 4 trillion. It's that simple.

They've been needing to cut spending since Reagan. But the GOP never does. In fact, they've spent more than the democrats. And raised the debt ceiling more times than the democrats (since Reagan).

 

[jc456]

I do.

who?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Good posts throughout the thread, YoursTruly.

But you may as well be talking to the wall.

It's a heck of a thing...

 

[YoursTruly]

you think that 6 trillion did anything to inflation?

Sure it did. It devalued the USD. I'm not sure the percentage yet. I'll look it up. But I know Trump devalued the USD by 16% with his $8 trillion. The % loss under Biden is probably going to be around 14%. Which is 14% too much.
Biden is a USD killing, monetary moron, just like Trump.

 

[YoursTruly]

Good posts throughout the thread, YoursTruly.

But you may as well be talking to the wall.

It's a heck of a thing...

This is the part that always gets me about todays Republicans. They practically beg for fiscal conservatism from the GOP. They get all warm and fuzzy when their Republican candidate talks of spending cuts, balanced budgets, reducing the deficits etc etc. And they never get it. But they keep on voting for dem lite, moderate RINO's.
And then start bashing those actual conservatives that have been battling those moderates for spending reductions.

 

[Billiejeens]

Being a moderate automatically makes him a RINO..
A RINO is someone who's NOT fiscally conservative. That's exactly what RINO means.

It's not.

 

[Natural Citizen]

This is the part that always gets me about todays Republicans. They practically beg for fiscal conservatism from the GOP. They get all warm and fuzzy when their Republican candidate talks of spending cuts, balanced budgets, reducing the deficits etc etc. And they never get it. But they keep on voting for dem lite, moderate RINO's.
And then start bashing those actual conservatives that have been battling those moderates for spending reductions.

Well there's very, very few conservatives left in America. As close as you're gonna come to actual conservatism today are your so-called ''classical liberals.'' And, I, for one, am offended to have to accept an adjective in order to placate the wilfully confused. So far as so-called ''moderates'' go, I've consistently maintained that it is my own view that they are, collectively speaking, the single biggest threat to the cause of Individual liberty in America today. Historically speaking, they're largely just okay with all of the bad, anti-liberty legislation coming from both theoretical sides of the party-of-one.

But whatever. Once you've accepted these observable truths, it's just a matter of watching them finish burning the place down. And they will. Ironically, it's the only practical solution, even if they know not what they do. In the mean time, I'll just be over here stacking me silver n gold.

 

[Independent thinker]

Yeah, there's plenty. Maybe you missed it, but in Trumps 1st 4 years, he spent more than all other Republicans before him. And 99% of the democrats. Combined. The only one who spent more than him (Obama), took him 8 years to do it.
Trump promised to zero out the national debt. And ended up spending more than almost every president before him.

So when you say "All I know is he's not Biden or Harris," I don't know what that even matters. Biden had the same amount of time dealing with Covid, and still didn't spend as much as Trump.
I'm not taking up for Biden. He spent $6 trillion in new money. Which was $6 trillion too much.
Spending is my biggest opposition to the democrats. But when RINO's like Trump spend more, then how TF can any actual conservative support him? Because he's not a democrat? That's a lame excuse.

Ummmmmmm, in my post you quoted, I said that Trump doesn't want to spend 50 trillion dollars fighting mother nature while Democrats do. We need to keep Democrats away from the purse strings because that's how much they want to spend fighting mother nature, not even counting everything else they want to spend.

 

[YoursTruly]

Well there's very, very few conservatives left in America. So far as so-called ''moderates'' go, I've consistently maintained that it is my own voew that they are the single biggest threat to the cause of Individual liberty in America today. Historically speaking, they're largely just okay with all of the bad, anti-liberty legislation coming from both theoretical sides of the party-of-one.

But whatever. Once you've accepted these observable truths, it's just a matter of watching them finish burning the place down. And they will. Ironically, it's the only practical solution.

That's the reality of it. And it's a sad sad thing for America and our future.

 

[YoursTruly]

Ummmmmmm, in my post you quoted, I said that Trump doesn't want to spend 50 trillion dollars fighting mother nature while Democrats do. We need to keep Democrats away from the purse strings because that's how much they want to spend fighting mother nature, not even counting everything else they want to spend.

With RINO's, they'll just find something else just as stupid to spend our money on. Trump spent trillions on a flu shot.

 

[Natural Citizen]

That's the reality of it. And it's a sad sad thing for America and our future.

I edited to add to that previous thought.

But, yes, that's pretty much the reality of it.

 

[jc456]

Sure it did. It devalued the USD. I'm not sure the percentage yet. I'll look it up. But I know Trump devalued the USD by 16% with his $8 trillion. The % loss under Biden is probably going to be around 14%. Which is 14% too much.
Biden is a USD killing, monetary moron, just like Trump.

nope, trump inflation was 1.9% when he left. PERIOD!!!!

 

[YoursTruly]

It's not.

LMAO..

The acronym RINO came about when 99% of Republicans were fiscally conservative. So when someone like Reagan came along, who wanted to balloon the debt by dumping a lot of new money into the economy, reduce interest rates and increase the debt ceiling, they were labeled RINO. Simply because they weren't conservative.
They were the actual "fringe."

RINO's of today want to make out like fiscal conservatives are the fringe.