Can the Trump supporters explain something to me?

[YoursTruly]

The Socialist Demon Rats love to pretend that they have been living in a Foxhole for the past 4 years:

1- The OP did not explain where we would get the dough to return over 15,000,000 illegals home
2- Nor did he explain where the money would come from in order to correct - reverse- the atrocious mismanagement that have occurred in the past 4 years
3- Joe BuyThem INTENTIONALLY depleted FEMA funds in order to force President Trump to demand more funds

Stop faking , you know the reason additional monies are necessary

I didn't explain a lot of things. I was making a point in the OP, backed up with facts and links.
You're simply changing the subject. As I said in the OP, "Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to?"

 

[YoursTruly]

Tax cuts do pay for themselves. They did when Reagan was president and they did when John Kennedy was president.

No they didn't. That's why, under Reagan, we ended up with 4 tax increases & 17 debt ceiling increases, after this tax cuts. Conservatives were trying to keep the debt from ballooning. Back then, conservatives understood the damage that ballooning debt, borrowing too much money, would do to the value of the USD.

 

[YoursTruly]

Out of the 535 members of Congress, how many are fiscal conservatives?

I counted them last month. There's about 20 of them. DeSantis jus replaced Rubio with Ashley Moody. Hopefully she'll be more of a Rand Paul type conservative, instead of a Rubio type moderate.

 

[Contumacious]

I didn't explain a lot of things. I was making a point in the OP, backed up with facts and links.
You're simply changing the subject. As I said in the OP, "Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to?"

I didn't explain a lot of things. I was making a point in the OP, backed up with facts and links.
You're simply changing the subject. As I said in the OP, "Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to?"

Look pal , actions have reactions

it is impossible to remain fiscally pure when the administration before you ignored the law , the Constitution and the requirements of effective management in their quest to destroy the economy and create a system wherein WE THE PEOPLE depended SOLELY on governemnt for our subsistence. ALL the areas affected by their mismanagement must be corrected.

The ************ sent gazillions to Ukraine, when that money is presented for payment it will cause an inflationary event which no doubt President Trump will be blamed for. Folks totally forget that inflationary events can take up to 18 months to materialize.

 

[YoursTruly]

Look pal , actions have reactions

it is impossible to remain fiscally pure when the administration before you ignored the law , the Constitution and the requirements of effective management in their quest to destroy the economy and create a system wherein WE THE PEOPLE depended SOLELY on governemnt for our subsistence. ALL the areas affected by their mismanagement must be corrected.

The ************ sent gazillions to Ukraine, when theat money is presented for payment it will cause an inflationary event which no doubt President Trump will be blamed for. Folks totally forget that inflationary events can take up to 18 months to materialize.

You actually don't think I understand this? FFS, I've explained how all of Trumps spending lead up to the HUGE inflation increases we seen in 2021 & 2022. Much of it before Biden's (retarded) policies were ever enacted.
And, at least a dozen times now, I've explained that it's never the government that makes our economy better. That's is always "We the People" who fix the economy. We, the producers and consumers, are the one's who keep the stores and factories going. We're the ones paying the inflated prices caused by inflation and corporate greed. We did that.
Just like this time around, in 2017 Trump stepped into a recovering economy. AFTER we the people had finally broke through the BS created by Obama, the democrats and the RINO's spending. But Trump supporters want to give Trump credit for something we did. Just like the democrats want to give Biden credit for the recovering economy now.

The presidents didn't make anything better. WE did that.

 

[Contumacious]

No they didn't. That's why, under Reagan, we ended up with 4 tax increases & 17 debt ceiling increases, after this tax cuts. Conservatives were trying to keep the debt from ballooning. Back then, conservatives understood the damage that ballooning debt, borrowing too much money, would do to the value of the USD.

AGAIN , if your fentanyl addicted child burns your house down and totals your car what are your ******* choices ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[Independent thinker]

A loser, why? Because i'm a fiscal conservative. And that fiscal conservatives are outnumbered by moderates? Last time I checked, the democrats and moderates have been in the majority for a long time now. And for a long time now, the country has been going in the wrong direction. The debt, deficit and debt ceiling has constantly been growing while the value of the USD has been shrinking.
Wages have been increasing, but the value of those wages hasn't.

So you can bash us FC's all you want. But it's the moderates and the democrats together who have been in power for decades, who are creating this mess.

Fiscal conservativism also needs a dose of reality. If you just turn off the spigot it throws the country into a recession and even a depression, which only makes the problem worse. You can't just take a heroin addict and cut them off cold turkey. While we need to cut spending in a major way it has to be done in a responsible manor, while trying to get the economy to grow out of our spending addiction.

 

[Billiejeens]

I counted them last month. There's about 20 of them. DeSantis jus replaced Rubio with Ashley Moody. Hopefully she'll be more of a Rand Paul type conservative, instead of a Rubio type moderate.

So, by your own account - 3%

The very definition of fringe.

Fringe - not part of the mainstream, unconventional, peripheral, or extreme.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Being a moderate automatically makes him a RINO..
A RINO is someone who's NOT fiscally conservative. That's exactly what RINO means.

No, that’s not what it means.

It means a Republican that cedes to Democrat interests/demands to prove they can be unifying… thinking such good faith will be valued, but the left never seems to appreciate it.

If you give them an inch, they’ll want 3 next time, then 5, then 7… then you can add a mom joke in, but the point remains.

You have to hardline these woke politicians, and call them out.

 

[g5000]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

It's all about WORDS, not DEEDS.

Trump promised he would pay off the debt. Those were his WORDS. Instead, he added $8 trillion to the debt in half the time it took Obama. The cult ignores his DEEDS.

It's amazing.

All the rubes care about is what he SAYS, not what he DOES.

 

[Billiejeens]

Fiscal conservativism also needs a dose of reality. If you just turn off the spigot it throws the country into a recession and even a depression, which only makes the problem worse. You can't just take a heroin addict and cut them off cold turkey. While we need to cut spending in a major way it has to be done in a responsible manor, while trying to get the economy to grow out of our spending addiction.

An aircraft carrier doesn't turn on a dime without dire consequences
No matter how vital a course correction may be.

 

[Luckyone]

That has amassed a large amount of money being a businessman. Isn't success in business an indicator of competence in business? As for lying, are you really going to expect ALL politicians to tell the truth? I hate to laugh at someone for being naive, but seriously.

No, he did by hook and crook and then again, others with less did more and they did it cleanly

 

[Blaster]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

True

 

[Contumacious]

You actually don't think I understand this? FFS, I've explained how all of Trumps spending lead up to the HUGE inflation increases we seen in 2021 & 2022. Much of it before Biden's (retarded) policies were ever enacted.
And, at least a dozen times now, I've explained that it's never the government that makes our economy better. That's is always "We the People" who fix the economy. We, the producers and consumers, are the one's who keep the stores and factories going. We're the ones paying the inflated prices caused by inflation and corporate greed. We did that.
Just like this time around, in 2017 Trump stepped into a recovering economy. AFTER we the people had finally broke through the BS created by Obama, the democrats and the RINO's spending. But Trump supporters want to give Trump credit for something we did. Just like the democrats want to give Biden credit for the recovering economy now.

The presidents didn't make anything better. WE did that.

Interesting position

AGAIN , in 2019-2020 the National Security Apparatchick and Anthony Fauci decided to destroy the Trump Administration using the CONvid19 HOAX .

What was President Trump supposed to do about those AMerican businesses and individuals who suffered the brunt of those manufactured circumstances.

 

[Contumacious]

Fiscal conservativism also needs a dose of reality. If you just turn off the spigot it throws the country into a recession and even a depression, which only makes the problem worse. You can't just take a heroin addict and cut them off cold turkey. While we need to cut spending in a major way it has to be done in a responsible manor, while trying to get the economy to grow out of our spending addiction.

Sad but true

 

[BrokeLoser]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

NOBODY, not one person voted for Trump for his fiscal responsibility.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You can't blame congress when Trump has a record of vetoing only 1 spending bill in his entire term. Nor can you blame congress when the people keep electing these big spending, big government RINO's.





The alternative? A democrat big spending, big government politician? Seems like the difference is only party affiliation.
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The major issue right now is the insanity of left-wing racism. Cancel culture. Look at California the three lead firefighters in LA lesbian women who are unqualified. That is overwhelmingly the biggest concern.


OK from 2018-2024 people have literally lost their jobs and livelihood because they insulted BLM or some left-wing piece of shit on social media. That’s the number one concern. And we the people should hold Trump accountable to ensuring that any BLM supporters or radical left-wingers or people who believe in woke are fired from any government or educational positions.

you know major companies have racial hiring quotes in 2025 in this country. That is insane. There’s no excuse for it. And the number one concern it is actually affecting the economy. So it needs to be righted

“fiscal conservatism”

I get a lot of feeling of the year 2000 or something from 20 years ago with your posting style. That’s not the concern right now. It is otoh left-wing cancel culture and woke. Sex change operations for children. Grown men pissing on each other in front of kids in public in San Francisco. Now anybody who claims to be a conservative they absolutely must stop that and they need to do their part in putting an end to it.

As for Conservatism in general I mean you can’t have that nobody can have it if there’s any semblance of radical leftism. So radical leftism needs to be completely eliminated in this country.

Don’t worry, the economy will be great. Things are looking good right now bounce backs in cryptocurrency and the S&P 500.

 

[YoursTruly]

Fiscal conservativism also needs a dose of reality. If you just turn off the spigot it throws the country into a recession and even a depression, which only makes the problem worse. You can't just take a heroin addict and cut them off cold turkey. While we need to cut spending in a major way it has to be done in a responsible manor, while trying to get the economy to grow out of our spending addiction.

Yes, that's what happens. That's exactly what's going on in Argentina now, after Milei has made such drastic cuts in spending and debt. Pulling the tit out of a fat babies mouth, you're going to get some crying. There's no easy fix. But not fixing it only means the problem gets worse.

I'm all for fixing it now, before the problem fixes itself by totally collapsing. Either fix what's broken now, or we'll have to completely rebuild it later.

 

[Contumacious]

It's all about WORDS, not DEEDS.

Trump promised he would pay off the debt. Those were his WORDS. Instead, he added $8 trillion to the debt in half the time it took Obama. The cult ignores his DEEDS.

It's amazing.

All the rubes care about is what he SAYS, not what he DOES.

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT by a paid mercenary whose only job is to smear

 

[Billiejeens]

PURE UNADULTERATED BULLSHIT by a paid mercenary whose only job is to smear

I doubt that G is paid
Who would pay for that shit?