Can the Trump supporters explain something to me?

[YoursTruly]

He didn't say that. He just wanted it raised or eliminated for now so there wouldn't be another ugly CR fight in early March while he is still getting his agenda off the ground.

That's the same excuse they've been using for decades. And Trumps support for "one big beautiful reconciliation bill" (that's coming up & greatly overspends) proves he was lying about spending cuts.

Those fights are stupid and take up a lot of time that could be used for other things as Congress ALWAYS raises the debt limit anyway.

He has not abandoned his intention to slash unnecessary, ineffective, inefficient, wasteful spending but that can't happen immediately but will take some time to complete the audits and analysis to know how to do it.

FFS, just because they always do it, doesn't make it right. It should be something that GOP voters are so sick of that they stop supporting people like Johnson.
Just a few months ago, Johnson was hated by the GOP. But Trump anoints him with his endorsement, and suddenly Johnson ain't so bad. Like how TF does Trumps endorsement change who Johnson really was when most republicans hated him?

 

[Foxfyre]

That's the same excuse they've been using for decades. And Trumps support for "one big beautiful reconciliation bill" (that's coming up & greatly overspends) proves he was lying about spending cuts.





FFS, just because they always do it, doesn't make it right. It should be something that GOP voters are so sick of that they stop supporting people like Johnson.
Just a few months ago, Johnson was hated by the GOP. But Trump anoints him with his endorsement, and suddenly Johnson ain't so bad. Like how TF does Trumps endorsement change who Johnson really was when most republicans hated him?

I stand by my post. I just don't think you are understanding anything I say though.

 

[buttercup]

The actual conservatives in Congress (Goode, Massie, Roy and a few others) have been trying. But Trump seems to want the more vocal conservatives primaried for opposing more spending and bigger government.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that Trump called for Chip Roy to be primaried because he opposed the CR that spent way too much. A CR that could've been cut by hundreds of billions more in wasteful spending.

Massie is one of the very few good ones who actually cares about the constitution and conservatism. And guess who said he should be thrown out of the GOP? Yes, Jabfather "Hillary is a great woman and a good woman" Trump.

Also, Massie is now off of the Rules Committee. And the person who was picked to take his place is a big spender.

 

[yidnar]

It's part of the same big government swamp. Not to mention the money it costs us.

Ask any republican if they support our government spying on Americans without a warrant. 95% of them would say no.
Ask them if they supported Biden reauthorizing it. They say no.
Then ask them if they still support Trump who supports it so much that he reauthorized it. They'll change the subject or say you have TDS.

I have nothing against fisa warrants .. however illegal fisa warrants used for political persecution is a different matter ..

 

[22lcidw]

The money going dry is one HUGE reason I support only fiscal conservatives. They're the only ones trying to keep the USD sound and secure. They're the only ones who are constantly voting against spending increases, debt ceiling increases, unbalanced budgets etc etc.
While the RINO's only say they oppose it. But when those huge spending bills hit the floor, they always vote yes on them.

The victory today will be the deficit reduced to the levels or percentage before Covid and go from there.

 

[hadit]

So no one is fixing anything or improving government, no one is effecting the economy or the cost of goods and services. Yeah, our vote sounds really effective.

You vote for a president for more reasons than just the economy, though it is one of the primary reasons one gets elected. In this most recent election, there was a clear choice.

One of the greatest impacts a president has on the economy is through the national mood. Carter, though a decent and honorable man, presided over an economy in despair and didn't offer much hope when he went on TV and told people to put on a sweater if they got cold. Reagan had Morning in America and the economy responded.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You vote for a president for more reasons than just the economy, though it is one of the primary reasons one gets elected. In this most recent election, there was a clear choice.

One of the greatest impacts a president has on the economy is through the national mood. Carter, though a decent and honorable man, presided over an economy in despair and didn't offer much hope when he went on TV and told people to put on a sweater if they got cold. Reagan had Morning in America and the economy responded.

These are superficial perceptions that don't really effect the economy.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Very good point.

"Until we see presidents talking about balanced budgets" <<<< Key word, "Presidents."

I don't think we're going to see presidents talking about things like that, until the GOP voters start fully supporting fiscal conservatives. And stop settling for RINO's.

How many times have you heard "What other option did we have?" As if there wasn't 4 years prior to this last election, to recruit and support a fiscal conservative for this election.

​

Are you demanding that Republicans not vote for moderate candidates? Sounds very convenient for Democrats lol.

While Trump is a moderate fiscally, he’s no RINO

 

[BackAgain]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

Nobody can “explain” anything to you when you’re not interested in the answer; but only in “asking” the so-called “question.”

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

All I know is he's not Biden or Harris, isn't woke, has had lawfare used against him for political purposes, and doesn't want to spend 50 trillion dollars on fighting mother nature. Is there anything else we need to know?

 

[Stryder50]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

Congress is the one that makers the Budget.
A POTUS either accepts it and signs off on it, OR ...
... doesn't sign it and sends back with request revisions.

However, Congress frequently submits it's Budget just before the end of the Fiscal Year, so a POTUS who doesn't sign it (under duress) is going to see much of the Federal Government "Shut Down" for lack of funding/money. Which produces some degree of chaos and often increases costs when finally a Budget is agreed to and signed.

A classic Catch 22.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Are you demanding that Republicans not vote for moderate candidates? Sounds very convenient for Democrats lol.

While Trump is a moderate fiscally, he’s no RINO

Because you say so?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Carter, though a decent and honorable man

Why does everyone keep saying this stuff. He was a nightmare president who did so much damage to the world that we're still dealing with his messes today. Good riddance

 

[TimFitz]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

Bill Clinton posted two budget surpluses.

The GOP and Bush couldn’t wait to blow that up.

 

[TimFitz]

Hopefully DOGE will cut a lot of unneeded government spending and agencies.

What an effing joke!

You suckers will fall for anything!

 

[theHawk]

What an effing joke!

You suckers will fall for anything!

If we fell for anything, why didn’t we vote for Dems?

 

[TimFitz]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

Only a complete fool would ever believe that promise.

DOGE is a gimmick designed to provide a way for Trump to sideline Musk. That’s all. They will produce a report (a if they even last that long). And that will be it.

Trump has lived on borrowed money every day of his life. He is the absolute last person to manage cost, much less manage anything.

And he spent like a drunken sailor (even before Covid), and the sheep are dumb enough to think it will be different this time.

 

[TimFitz]

If we fell for anything, why didn’t we vote for Dems?

nice shot!

 

[Stryder50]

Bill Clinton posted two budget surpluses.

The GOP and Bush couldn’t wait to blow that up.

Clinton did that by drastic cuts to Defense, which disrupted many programs in development, and also shorted ammunition stocks, etc.
All of which cost the USA in the two military actions against Iraq that followed.

To put bluntly, 'Slick Willy' did it by robbing Peter, to pay Paul, and endanger the Future of the USA.

 

[Stryder50]

Only a complete fool would ever believe that promise.

DOGE is a gimmick designed to provide a way for Trump to sideline Musk. That’s all. They will produce a report (a if they even last that long). And that will be it.

Trump has lived on borrowed money every day of his life. He is the absolute last person to manage cost, much less manage anything.

And he spent like a drunken sailor (even before Covid), and the sheep are dumb enough to think it will be different this time.

And your pseudo-heroes Clinton, Obama, and Biden ALL started to collect Guv'mint paychecks right out of college and all through their "careers"; i.e. parasites off of the people and with no experience in creating Wealth* via the for-profit Private Sector.

Bottom-line is all three, and their skank spouses, have no real knowledge or grasp of Real Economics and can only exist by ripping off the general public; i.e. scammers, skimmers, and parasites !

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