Can someone show us where the 14th Amendment negates the 5th Amendment?

[Nostra]

Plus the Fifth Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights or the first ten amendments to our Constitution. That should put it in a higher category of importance.

Why a Bill of Rights?

“A bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against any government on earth, general or particular, and what no government should refuse, or rest on inference.” Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, December 20, 1787 No Need for a Bill of Rights The omission of a bill of rights from the...

www.archives.gov

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Why a Bill of Rights?
The First Congress included a preamble to the Bill of Rights to explain why the amendments were needed. Declaring that they were a response to the demand for amendments from the state ratifying conventions, the preamble states that Congress proposed them "to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers" and to extend "the ground of public confidence in the government."

Especially when you consider the 14th was enacted specifically to address folks in the confederacy.

Shows how desperate the Bidenista Cult is.

 

[toobfreak]

Can someone show us where the 14th Amendment negates the 5th Amendment?​

We have people on this board claiming Trump can be found guilty of a crime because the 14th Amendment spells out the punishment for being guilty of insurrection, but doesn't specifically state a person needs to be found guilty in a court of law.

Good question, Nos, funny how some people in their zeal to get Trump suddenly don't care HOW he is gotten and are fine with prosecution crossing legal boundaries to get him, making this no longer a country of laws but of mob mentality (fascism). They base their whole case on insurrection ignoring both the question of whether it can even be applied to a president and not answering that question first, then the whole matter of the evidence they are using to base this on was produced by a partial court hand-picked as all being against him to start assuring a biased and determined outcome, but in a court where there was no cross-examination nor due process of law to even arrive at it, the kind of drumhead evidence that would be better expected in Russia or China or North Korea.

However, the 5th specifically states at the very least one must be indicted by a grand jury AND be given due process. Has Trump been indicted by a grand jury of insurrection? NOPE.

If Trump is genuinely so damn guilty, then why can't he be found guilty by due process of Law? Why do the democrats need to convict him using a kangaroo court designed so that he has everything stacked against him with no hope but being found guilty while any evidence clearing him is withheld from evidence? What is worse is what such "justice" of a president really means to the damage it does to our jurisprudence that it matters not whether one is actually guilty of a crime within the law but rather that the state can find anyone guilty of a crime they want to irregardless of the law.

Just remember that it is the democrats driven by the radical far left that have brought this sort of legal travesty to our courtrooms now. Democrats no longer seek justice at any cost, but a conviction at any cost to arrive at a predetermined outcome which only they benefit from, irregardless of or despite of the law.

 

[Nostra]

We have our answer…..it doesn’t.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

without due process of law

Trump is getting due process in every case.

The problem here is that you morons are too fucking stupid to know what the phrase even means.

 

[BS Filter]

The 14th Amendment is the most abused section of the Constitution. The left even found queer marriage in there. Don't ask how. The left will twist it to say whatever they want.

 

[BS Filter]

Trump is getting due process in every case.

The problem here is that you morons are too fucking stupid to know what the phrase even means.

One person not elected removing Trump from the ballot is not due process.

 

[Moonglow]

Is a Criminal Conviction Needed for Ballot Removal?​

The report from the CRS specified, "Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction, and historically, one was not necessary."

Fact Check: Trump Doesn't Need a Criminal Conviction for Ballot Removal, According to Research on 14th Amendment

The former president was previously charged on four federal felony counts for his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.

www.yahoo.com

 

[scruffy]

Is a Criminal Conviction Needed for Ballot Removal?​

The report from the CRS specified, "Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction, and historically, one was not necessary."

Fact Check: Trump Doesn't Need a Criminal Conviction for Ballot Removal, According to Research on 14th Amendment

The former president was previously charged on four federal felony counts for his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.

www.yahoo.com

More lying leftard BULLSHIT

Those people were PARDONED.

Any statement to the contrary is yet another leftard lie

 

[Nostra]

One person not elected removing Trump from the ballot is not due process.

Gator is a Bidenista Cultist who is trained to spew whatever dumbassery he is fed.

 

[Nostra]

Is a Criminal Conviction Needed for Ballot Removal?​

The report from the CRS specified, "Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction, and historically, one was not necessary."

Fact Check: Trump Doesn't Need a Criminal Conviction for Ballot Removal, According to Research on 14th Amendment

The former president was previously charged on four federal felony counts for his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.

www.yahoo.com

That's because the 14th only gives Congress the power to enforce the 14th, Moron.

 

[Clipper]

Shit you old hag, there are about a dozen of you Dimlibs claiming there is no need for Trump to be proven criminally guilty of the crime of insurrection for him to be punished for the crime of insurrection.

How bout we put Dotard on trial as soon as possible & see what else Jack Smith has on your boy & then we'll find out what a jury has to say? The same trial that Trump is desperately trying to avoid until after Nov. 2024. Gee, one would think that Dotard would want to clear his name for the whole Country to see. No?

The same trial that you Trump lovers are soiling yourselves over.

 

[otto105]

We have people on this board claiming Trump can be found guilty of a crime because the 14th Amendment spells out the punishment for being guilty of insurrection, but doesn't specifically state a person needs to be found guilty in a court of law.

However, the 5th specifically states at the very least one must be indicted by a grand jury AND be given due process. Has Trump been indicted by a grand jury of insurrection? NOPE.

This destroys the Liberal packed Colorado SC ruling.

Amendment V​

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

The 5th doesn't apply in the former 1-term fuckups ballot removal.

 

[Nostra]

How bout we put Dotard on trial as soon as possible & see what else Jack Smith has on your boy & then we'll find out what a jury has to say? The same trial that Trump is desperately trying to avoid until after Nov. 2024. Gee, one would think that Dotard would want to clear his name for the whole Country to see. No?

The same trial that you Trump lovers are soiling yourselves over.

Um, why hasn’t your Messiah Jerk Smith charged Trump with insurrection, Vermin?

 

[Nostra]

The 5th doesn't apply in the former 1-term fuckups ballot removal.

Thanks for confirming you are a fascist.

Last time I checked, the 5th applies to everyone,

 

[Clipper]

Um, why hasn’t your Messiah Jerk Smith charged Trump with insurrection, Vermin?

What makes you think he won't?

 

[BackAgain]

We have people on this board claiming Trump can be found guilty of a crime because the 14th Amendment spells out the punishment for being guilty of insurrection, but doesn't specifically state a person needs to be found guilty in a court of law.

However, the 5th specifically states at the very least one must be indicted by a grand jury AND be given due process. Has Trump been indicted by a grand jury of insurrection? NOPE.

This destroys the Liberal packed Colorado SC ruling.

Amendment V​

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Fifth Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

Good question.

Although our libs will simply persist on side stepping it, they will also persist in simply failing.

 

[Nostra]

What makes you think he won't?

Because he hasn’t, you raving moron.

 

[otto105]

Thanks for confirming you are a fascist.

Last time I checked, the 5th applies to everyone,

The laws don't apply to the former 1-term fuckup.

 

[Clipper]

Because he hasn’t, you raving moron.

Nothing prevents him from charging Trump with being an insurrectionist, which he is, even though 91 felonies shoild be enough to finish him off.

Keep shedding those MAGA tears.

 

[Nostra]

Nothing prevents him from charging Trump with being an insurrectionist, which he is, even though 91 felonies shoild be enough to finish him off.

Keep shedding those MAGA tears.

So why hasn’t he charged Trump with insurrection, Simp?