Can Islam Be Civilized?

[PoliticalChic]

Yeah.....its equal rights but not equal treatment exactly.

Jews AND Muslims are BOTH highly prejudiced societies. BOTH are annoying on several levels. Visiting is nice if you want to see Bible history....
Leaving is so much nicer.

Anything there that doesn't apply to America, too?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yep, and the Jews and The People of the Book (Christians) are WARNED, VERILY throughout the texts as well.
Ain't that nice?

Warned about what?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Warned about what?

The fundamental bigotry of Islam.
The harm that will come to them, Inshallah, if they don't agree with the premise of the Call to Prayer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fundamental bigotry of Islam.
The harm that will come to them, Inshallah, if they don't agree with the premise of the Call to Prayer.

Have you seen this?


AI Overview

Surah 10 (Yunus), verse 94, addresses Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by stating: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you". This verse advises asking knowledgeable People of the Book (Jews/Christians) for confirmation of his prophethood.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Have you seen this?


AI Overview



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Surah 10 (Yunus), verse 94, addresses Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by stating: "So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you". This verse advises asking knowledgeable People of the Book (Jews/Christians) for confirmation of his prophethood.

Ha, all that's missing is OR ELSE.
What I find rather disturbing is a fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam whereas in Christianity sinners are warned about punishment in the afterlife.
Islam? Sinners, apostates,infidels, etc. are to be punished right here on the Earth, Inshallah.

 

[JohnDB]

Anything there that doesn't apply to America, too?

Very much so.
UK and Canada were linked once upon a time until around the 70's. Meaning that Canada was a UK territory with similar laws, courts, and etc.

And since the UK dumped them because they claimed that Canada was costing the UK too much money....Canada has been on its own.

And it used to be great....
Cheap booze, hockey, lumber and etc.
(They came to the US for various goods too like Tobacco products, retail shopping and etc)

Then they started raising taxes even higher and higher....jobs left...taxes raised even more. The East was running somewhat OK due to petroleum receipts. But now those wells have dried up. The western areas got snubbed....a little gold and Diamond prospecting in Yukon areas was mostly played out but still a bit goes on today.

They do have socialized medicine....if you can get a doctor. You obtain one by trying to sell yourself and how healthy you are....so the doctor won't have to see you ever again. You likely will die on the street in the dirty snow waiting for approvals for open heart surgery....but it's mostly free.

Lifestyles and government are extremely different ⅞ÿ


Today?
Oil Sands area produces a bitumen that has little value as it has too much Sulphur. (Too sour) and the place to refine it is all stainless steel. The values of the Eastern Canada and Western Canada are miles apart.
The west is a LOT more rural.

 

[schmidlap]

Yes, this is political, and will be answered in these two posts.

1. Of course Democrats see no problem with Islam,. as they share the same view of humal life with the 7th century barbaric view. Let me take you back to 2001, after the NYC bombing, when she wrote:"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity,"
Of course tongue in cheek, but if one looks at the headlines today...............


2. Politics, religion and economics are intertwined in the news. The UAE and Saudi Arabia might even agree with Coulter when it comes to Iran. Did you know that a number of the Gulf states will no longer send their sons to Western universities due to the radicalization?
But the UAE and Saudi Arabia have spent $billions builing land pipelines to avoid the Straits of Hormuz, and also the Red Sea and Suez.


3. India offered the IMEC plan:
AI Overview
The India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC) is a planned, multi-modal transportation and energy network designed to link India to Europe via the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Israel, acting as a strategic alternative to maritime routes,...


4. Gulf refineries woulld send Diesel, Jet fuel, petrochemicals, and ultimately hydrogen to the Mediterranean and then to Europe.
Cables would offer solar generated electricity.
All much faster and more reliably.


5. The fly in the ointment? Muslims.
Saudi Arabia cannot be part of this venture if Muslims are being killed in Gaza, and this is exacty what the radicals, with the Democra sts aid, plan to continue forever.
Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al, will never allow normalization with the West (Democrats no longer represent the West).

The answer is in the second post......................

Religious intolerance is anathema to all religions, yet is endemic among the most fanatical religionists.

Tolerance is about recognizing the shared humanity of others when beliefs differ.

Being the target of religious intolerance does not validate the abandonment of one's religious principles and surrender to reciprocal intolerance.

Compassion as a Core Islamic Value - Rethinking Islam

Just as you explore the vast teachings of Islam, you will discover that compassion stands out as a fundamental value intertwined in the faith. It is more than a mere sentiment; it shapes how you interact with others and influences your community’s well-being. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon...

rethinkingislam.net

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Show us the comparison

Gipper has never read anything. It's why he relies on parroting.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Very much so.
UK and Canada were linked once upon a time until around the 70's. Meaning that Canada was a UK territory with similar laws, courts, and etc.

And since the UK dumped them because they claimed that Canada was costing the UK too much money....Canada has been on its own.

And it used to be great....
Cheap booze, hockey, lumber and etc.
(They came to the US for various goods too like Tobacco products, retail shopping and etc)

Then they started raising taxes even higher and higher....jobs left...taxes raised even more. The East was running somewhat OK due to petroleum receipts. But now those wells have dried up. The western areas got snubbed....a little gold and Diamond prospecting in Yukon areas was mostly played out but still a bit goes on today.

They do have socialized medicine....if you can get a doctor. You obtain one by trying to sell yourself and how healthy you are....so the doctor won't have to see you ever again. You likely will die on the street in the dirty snow waiting for approvals for open heart surgery....but it's mostly free.

Lifestyles and government are extremely different ⅞ÿ


Today?
Oil Sands area produces a bitumen that has little value as it has too much Sulphur. (Too sour) and the place to refine it is all stainless steel. The values of the Eastern Canada and Western Canada are miles apart.
The west is a LOT more rural.

Are there claims of discrimination in America?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Religious intolerance is anathema to all religions, yet is endemic among the most fanatical religionists.

Tolerance is about recognizing the shared humanity of others when beliefs differ.

Being the target of religious intolerance does not validate the abandonment of one's religious principles and surrender to reciprocal intolerance.

Compassion as a Core Islamic Value - Rethinking Islam

Just as you explore the vast teachings of Islam, you will discover that compassion stands out as a fundamental value intertwined in the faith. It is more than a mere sentiment; it shapes how you interact with others and influences your community’s well-being. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon...

rethinkingislam.net

Now focus like a laser.

Articulate your point.




Are you attempting to support Islam, claiming that it is a victim?

 

[JohnDB]

Are there claims of discrimination in America?

Here are 4 things that happened to the UK in the last 24 hours:

1. The Labour government confirmed it will remove the right to a jury trial. Cases will be tried by a judge alone.

2. The Labour gvt confirmed it will impose Digital ID despite it never being included in Labour's manifesto and nearly 3 million Brits signing a petition against it.

3. The Labour gvt confirmed we will "align" with the European Union, directly going against the 2016 democratic vote for Brexit & forcing the British people to pay billions for laws they'll never be able to influence.

4. The Labour gvt confirmed that while Islamist sympathisers & antisemites are free to march on the streets of our capital city, & while it welcomes former allies of al-Qaeda into Downing Street, it has banned conservative activists from joining a peaceful protest against mass immigration in London.

Put all these things together and you get a sense - just a sense - of how hideously authoritarian and illiberal this Labour government really is. These people just lost major rights in American culture....
Canada is usually not far behind UK in laws and political theater.

 

[schmidlap]

Now focus like a laser.

Articulate your point.




Are you attempting to support Islam, claiming that it is a victim?

I am recommending religious tolerance - as espoused by every major religion - to all who hate any religion.

 

[JohnDB]

I am recommending religious tolerance - as espoused by every major religion - to all who hate any religion.

Tolerance is NOT acceptance....
Not even close

And there is still no tolerating Moslems....they don't tolerate Christians, Jews, or even Atheists .

 

[schmidlap]

Tolerance is NOT acceptance....
Not even close

And there is still no tolerating Moslems....they don't tolerate Christians, Jews, or even Atheists .

Should however you may perceive others determine whether you abandon your religion's teaching of tolerance?

 

[schmidlap]

Tolerance is NOT acceptance....
Not even close

And there is still no tolerating Moslems....they don't tolerate Christians, Jews, or even Atheists .

Your judging over two billion people is not sanctioned by any religion that I know of.

 

[schmidlap]

Tolerance is NOT acceptance....

I don't endorse any particular religion. I oppose intolerance - that some express regardless of their religion's principles.

 

[WEATHER53]

Maybe yes when a skunk is taught not to spray

 

[JohnDB]

Your judging over two billion people is not sanctioned by any religion that I know of.

There are two billion people who want me DEAD.....decapitated specifically. And not just me but my family and friends....

Sorry but I'm not sorry that there is no tolerating these people. And my lack of acquiescence of their murderous desires required by their religion is very much sanctioned by Christanity....in fact it's required.

Where you get your ideas from is beyond my ability to fantasize.

 

[schmidlap]

There are two billion people who want me DEAD.....decapitated specifically. And not just me but my family and friends....

Sorry but I'm not sorry that there is no tolerating these people. And my lack of acquiescence of their murderous desires required by their religion is very much sanctioned by Christanity....in fact it's required.

Where you get your ideas from is beyond my ability to fantasize.

Your paranoia is noted.

It sounds like irrational religious bigotry when you proclaim that two billion people are targeting you.

 

[georgephillip]

On November 17, 2025, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 2803, formally endorsing the U.S.-backed "Board of Peace" (BoP) as a transitional administration for Gaza's reconstruction and security, following a two-year conflict. Initiated by U.S. President Donald Trump, this board is designed to oversee, fund, and stabilize the territory until the Palestinian Authority completes reforms

You should consider how the "Board of Peace" is simply one more western corporate resource grab:

"Everything unfolded like clockwork: first the Gaza ceasefire in October, then the Board of Peace, and finally, the Chevron gas deal."

"Chevron would formalize the contracts and handle extraction, while the 'Board of Peace' would serve as the humanitarian front..."

"In October 2023, I (Richard Medhurst) warned that this war was never about hostages or Hamas — it was about plundering Gaza’s resources.

"Not a second was wasted.

"The moment Washington and Chevron were ready to move, the war was sidelined and a 'ceasefire' was suddenly on the table."

This hostile takeover was set in motion with the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines:

https://consortiumnews.com/2026/05/11/an-armed-robbery-of-the-worlds-energy-supply/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=20edf3fa-0ebc-4534-b1d7-e64104ebddfc