Can dogs, cats and horses go to heaven?

[luiza]

What about ants and sharks and trees? If cats and dogs can go, all living things can go to heaven.

It's a weird belief that these Cultists have .
But they find it comforting bizarrely --- never questioning what their unique little souls will be doing every day until Eternity .

They really believe in Heaven and never bother to weigh how that stacks up with Universe which is Consciousness .
But ,as suggested elsewhere , it seems a harmless quirky belief and similar in general terms to other tales like the Tooth Fairy and Santa .
And it keeps them Happy .

 

[DennisPTate]

It's a weird belief that these Cultists have .
But they find it comforting bizarrely --- never questioning what their unique little souls will be doing every day until Eternity .

They really believe in Heaven and never bother to weigh how that stacks up with Universe which is Consciousness .
But ,as suggested elsewhere , it seems a harmless quirky belief and similar in general terms to other tales like the Tooth Fairy and Santa .
And it keeps them Happy .

After the one hour and forty minute mark in this interview near death experiencer Cody Leatherbury says that the people that he saw in hell could not even communicate with each other. Heaven is the opposite of hell and in heaven the animals can talk to us telepathically but in the other place humans don't even communicate with each other.

Heaven and Hell are opposites.



Artist Died & Saw Inside the Minds of Prisoners In Hell

 

[luiza]

After the one hour and forty minute mark in this interview near death experiencer Cody Leatherbury says that the people that he saw in hell could not even communicate with each other. Heaven is the opposite of hell and in heaven the animals can talk to us telepathically but in the other place humans don't even communicate with each other.

Heaven and Hell are opposites.

Intellectually I do not mind this imagined scenario .
Even though I believe that it is Weak and Fake.
Because, if it keeps individuals mindful of consequences, it serves a useful purpose .

However , at the same time , it relies on the idea of a primal source which is judgmental and punishes .

Nothing remotely like anything promised by Cult Christians .

So which way do you see Consciousness, Christians?
The Cult Christian Universe has the choice of it being Intentionally Arbitrary , Contradictory and Cruel?( Old Testament style)?
Or
All loving and all forgiving ( New Testament style ) leading to unintentional division , judgement and punishment .

You have not sorted this dilemma Cult Christians
Perhaps , and after all you have been placed on a Prison Planet with no way out other than through the dreams you create ( New Testament type of narratives) to stop you driving yourself mad from facing Reality .
imho .

 

[Captain Caveman]

I am convinced that dogs, cats and horses can go to heaven.

In the Psalms there is a mention of Moshiach - Messiah riding on a "Cherub" and in the Book of Revelation it is stated that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus fulfills Zechariah chapter fourteen while riding on a "White Horse?"

Since a "cherub" is a type of angel then are our pets a class of angels incarnated as animals?



Many near death experiencers report meeting previously deceased pets while they glimpse heaven. Little Colton Burpo who had his brush with death when he was about three years and ten months old reported meeting lots of tame animals, [even lions], while he was in heaven with Jesus.

Under Christianity, if you accept Jesus is the Lord and He died for your sins, then that's the path to heaven. So did the animals do that?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I have known

Nobody knows.

According to some, there is also a Hell.
Can they go to Hell also?

I have known some cats . . .

 

[Seymour Flops]

I thought this thread would be about this joke:

A dog, a cat, and a horse go to heaven. St. Peter is on break, so God is manning staffing the Pearly Gates. He is sitting on his beautiful gold thrown, encrusted with diamond and rubies, with velvet seats, back and armrests.

Getting right to the point, He says "Dog, what good did you do in your life?"

The dog says "I warned my master everytime danger approached. Once it was a lion, and I charged the lion to give my master time to escape. That's how I got here."

God says, "You have used your life well. You may sit at my feet and help me sniff out any wrongdoers who try to get in. Horse, what good did you do in your life?"

The horse says, "I gave my master a ride whenever he needed it, until he got too old to ride. Then I pulled his shay even though I was so old that it strained my heart. That's how I got here."

God said, "You have also used your life well. You will have your youthful strength and speed back and will give me a ride whenever I am needed quickly in another part of Heaven. So, Cat . . .

The cat says, "Dude, you're sitting in my chair."

 

[DennisPTate]

Intellectually I do not mind this imagined scenario .
Even though I believe that it is Weak and Fake.
Because, if it keeps individuals mindful of consequences, it serves a useful purpose .

However , at the same time , it relies on the idea of a primal source which is judgmental and punishes .

Nothing remotely like anything promised by Cult Christians .

So which way do you see Consciousness, Christians?
The Cult Christian Universe has the choice of it being Intentionally Arbitrary , Contradictory and Cruel?( Old Testament style)?
Or
All loving and all forgiving ( New Testament style ) leading to unintentional division , judgement and punishment .

You have not sorted this dilemma Cult Christians
Perhaps , and after all you have been placed on a Prison Planet with no way out other than through the dreams you create ( New Testament type of narratives) to stop you driving yourself mad from facing Reality .
imho .

My belief is that it is possible that the Being of Light of near death experience fame might perhaps be the Oldest and most ancient version of your spirit or soul that existed even before you were conceived.

I believe that this most ancient version of us is not out to punish but instead wants to educate all of us as to how serious the transgression of the laws of Moses can really be?

I believe that all of the torment reported by former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava may have been the oldest version of himself forcing him to look at what he needed to understand so that he could complete the extremely difficult mission that he had volunteered for even before he was conceived.

Revenge is not the point of any of the negative near death experience Life Reviews that I have read about, the purpose is to teach Empathy and Compassion and Love.

It is my belief that even the Beagles that were involved in the research conducted by Dr. T... Fauci want him to learn Empathy and Compassion and they do not want revenge taken out on him, but every aspect of the Life Review of all of us, must be faced and it must be learned from?

 

[luiza]

My belief is that it is possible that the Being of Light of near death experience fame might perhaps be the Oldest and most ancient version of your spirit or soul that existed even before you were conceived.

I believe that this most ancient version of us is not out to punish but instead wants to educate all of us as to how serious the transgression of the laws of Moses can really be?

I appreciate all of your well intentioned beliefs , but you never go near answering the basic problem question .

How did Consciousness create Evil from Goodness .
And Why has this situation continued?
For What and "Whose" benefit ?

From previous comments I believe you know i veer toward the idea of our planet being a Prison , and some of the barriers to prevent escape are the Christian idea of Heaven as usually portrayed , and standard experiences like NDEs to sway those I feel might be rather Gullible .
But imho only .

So .
I read and understand what you say , and frankly am amazed that you involve yourself with the teachings of Joseph Smith .
However whilst " Chewing the Cud " is enjoyable I suspect we fundamentally disagree on much more than we agree , and it is unlikely that we will separately change our core beliefs--- though I hope my mind is never entirely closed to new findings and testimony .

 

[DennisPTate]

I appreciate all of your well intentioned beliefs , but you never go near answering the basic problem question .

How did Consciousness create Evil from Goodness .
And Why has this situation continued?
For What and "Whose" benefit ?

From previous comments I believe you know i veer toward the idea of our planet being a Prison , and some of the barriers to prevent escape are the Christian idea of Heaven as usually portrayed , and standard experiences like NDEs to sway those I feel might be rather Gullible .
But imho only .

So .
I read and understand what you say , and frankly am amazed that you involve yourself with the teachings of Joseph Smith .
However whilst " Chewing the Cud " is enjoyable I suspect we fundamentally disagree on much more than we agree , and it is unlikely that we will separately change our core beliefs--- though I hope my mind is never entirely closed to new findings and testimony .

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. reports being shown that former Covering Cherub Helel had jurisdiction over the Garden of Eden. Dr. Zadai believed that Covering Cherub Helel ate and ate and ate and ate from "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" that he suggested to Eve that she should eat of?

The fruit of the tree of knowledge of good vs evil led former Covering Cherub Helel into a place where he faced off against the massive "serpents" of INSECURITY and INFERIORITY, which were given power over him through his guilt over attempting to take over heaven and replace his own Creator?

[Near death experiencer Christian Andreason] :

b. What about the devil?​

If you understand the ego, you will understand the concept of the devil. Satanic frequency is the LOW-RANGE frequency that surrounds us in our collective thinking. It is the opposite of the HIGH, INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVING frequency of God. Please hear me out on something…be careful of the music you listen to, the movies or TV you watch, the gossip or negative speaking you participate in. All these things LOWER the soul’s vibration. Lower vibration brings depression, disillusionment, disease and despair. The lower our soul’s vibration falls, the more these dark things come upon us. Once you fall into LOWER vibration, immediately seek to amend it with LOVING, HIGHER VIBRATIONAL THOUGHT. It is like anything else, the more you put into something, that is what the end result will be.

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[Carl in Michigan]

Under Christianity, if you accept Jesus is the Lord and He died for your sins, then that's the path to heaven. So did the animals do that?

That's what's required of a moral being who makes choices. What we DO KNOW is they have a spirit and it returns to the God who gave it

 

[Captain Caveman]

That's what's required of a moral being who makes choices. What we DO KNOW is they have a spirit and it returns to the God who gave it

Obviously my local vicar disagreed with you. I'll stick to the churches view.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

It's a weird belief that these Cultists have .
But they find it comforting bizarrely --- never questioning what their unique little souls will be doing every day until Eternity .

They really believe in Heaven and never bother to weigh how that stacks up with Universe which is Consciousness .
But ,as suggested elsewhere , it seems a harmless quirky belief and similar in general terms to other tales like the Tooth Fairy and Santa .
And it keeps them Happy .

Does god exist is a scientific question.If you want to put it like that

science and religion have been intertwined for centuries.It's only until recently that it's a no no

It's okay to bang on christians, but you won't say a f****** thing about those f****** savages raping your little girls

Christians are nice and safe to attack and ridicule
The police in the UK wont knock on your door for it ...

Y'all need sum jesus

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The appalachians got juice.If you want to feel some energy, go outside in the middle of the night to meditate and pray
It was half moon tonight, eighty degrees ..no humidity at all
These mountains have been around 4oo hundred million years

There's even a piece of them in Scotland which is kind of freaky since Appalachia was settled by the Scots Irish


I love it when the moon and venus are in the sky

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Obviously my local vicar disagreed with you. I'll stick to the churches view.

Your local "vicar" would be wrong.
Stick with the Bible not men.

The BIBLE says animals are Given a spirit

The BIBLE says the spirit HE GAVE returns to him Him at death

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.



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[Captain Caveman]

Your local "vicar" would be wrong.
Stick with the Bible not men.

The BIBLE says animals are Givenchy o spirit

The BIBLE says the spirit HE GAVE returns to him Him at death

Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Can't agree with you or we would be both wrong. If you feel you are right, get a church and go preach. Sounds like you're on the way to hell.