The Irish Ram
You're laying it on a bit thick son.
You have no evidence of anything but now tell us what your ghost said.
Really?
Hi
Collin norris
And thank you for joining in.
I agree that it cannot be proven or disproven: either the existence or nonexistence of God or Jesus (or the Holy Spirit) which are abstract and remain faith based.
Love and Justice are also faith based, not proven, but just concepts or reactions in our brains we label with names (so we at least agree what CONCEPTS we are talking about) and then argue if it is real love or false, real justice or injustice, etc.
The two approaches I offer regarding belief or disbelief in God and or Jesus:
1. Can we agree what MEANING are we talking about when referring to God/Jesus?
Again, like equating Jesus with representing Universal Justice, this doesn't PROVE either Justice or Jesus exists. It is just reaching agreement if those two faith based terms are pointing to the same concepts. And if not, what words do we use for those concepts?
2. We can also run medical studies on spiritual healing to prove the PROCESS of praying for forgiveness, deliverance, and healing in Christian therapy is
* consistent and effective
* universal for people of all faiths or no faith, Christian or not, as long as they agree to accept the process of healing prayer and forgiveness invoking Jesus authority
* extreme cases of addiction sickness recovery and healing can ONLY be cured through Christian prayer, while milder cases or degrees of conditions could be healed by similar processes of forgiveness and recovery
Are you personally interested in either approach?
The spiritual healing research might interest you
Colin norris If it helps prove that just because people agree to receive Jesus and healing doesn't convert them to Christian religion.
People can be healed and remain Buddhist, Muslim, even Atheist.
What changes is being able to forgive our differences, but that may not convert anyone to other beliefs. Just stop the rejection and competition between beliefs.
Any comments on these ideas?
If we are going to prove or correct anything, I recommend starting with one or both suggestions above, then taking it from there....
Mr Clean Cecilie1200
justinacolmena BULLDOG
Would above 2 approaches help stop trolling over unproven religious posting? By actually proving if Jesus authority is unique in spiritually healing people of physical, mental or criminal disorders. Or if people can agree what religious terms refer to without requiring people to believe in faith based concepts. See above points #1 and #2. Any comments or any arguments you have with other people you would like resolved this way? Thanks!