Kruska
Diamond Member
Exactly - so why should Hamas attack Israel? sending their suicide bombers and missiles into Israel has been and is their concept since 2006. Hamas knows exactly as how to balance it's terrorist activities to avoid any harsh Israeli actions. Factually proven since 1988.They knew Israel would react by kicking their butts
There was no ”win” outcome for Hamas
Hamas isn't supported by the Saudis (so why should they care?) - However Iran and the Saudis are about to normalize their previous 35 years "hostile" relationship. - and that is indeed hugely unfavorable for Israel. The first thing Netanyahu and his gang did upon Oct.7th - was to claim that Iran had ordered the attack. - remember? The 2nd thing he did was to compare Hamas with ISIS, via making use of atrocity claims aka propaganda, in order to get his back free (from international critics) in his push to bomb the shit out of Gaza - thus (just as in 1948) "encouraging" the Palestinians to flee, and make way for Israel to occupy Gaza, with the intend to annex it - just as they did with e.g. the Golan-Heights.I think they were trying to mess up the Israel/Saudi peace process …which they did Bigly
Before the IDF attack, he ordered the Israeli border crossings and checkpoints to be closed - instead of asking the Palestinians from Northern Gaza to seek refuge in Israel (just 1 foot to 6 miles) - which would have been the right thing to do - generous humanitarian help, aka "winning heart and minds", whilst going for Hamas - he ordered them to go south to Rafah which is 20-25 miles - all the way controlled by Hamas.
Hamas will just stay in Northern Gaza and fight the IDF??? logically the main body of Hamas will follow to the South - they need human shields - and the IDF is so stupid that they wouldn't know that??
However Egypt solidly messed up that plan - via refusing to allow Palestinian refugees from entering Egypt. and Egypt even clearly stating - if they allow the Palestinians to seek refuge in Egypt, they will lose Gaza forever.
Hamas isn't a danger to Israel at all - that they were able to kill and massacre supposedly 700 civilians and factually 300+IDF personal - was solely enabled by stand-down orders issued from the IDF HQ, and the additional removal/transfer orders given to IDF personal to vacate the Gaza envelope.
The only danger Israel faces presently and for the near future is via Iran - and the IDF can't strike them (without facing serious repercussions) from the UN and other international bodies aka EU, BRICS, etc. - since Iran is nowhere to be checked onto its factual nuke program. And friendly maybe even cooperative terms between Saudi-Arabia and Iran scares the shit out of Israel - especially Zionists in view of their known settlement policy.
Was has been swept almost entirely under the carpet is the fact - that Netanyahu and his radial Zionist gang - were just about to be "relieved" of their governing burden. The 3rd thing Netanyahu did was to "appeal" towards a political and national unity - lets finish Hamas and Gaza first - and then continue the internal Israeli political battle.
As such "something" needed to happen - and an occupied Gaza - free to be settled again, the "victory" against Hamas and lots of IDF heroes and maybe some freed hostages - is kind of what a politician and a party needs, that faces extreme opposition.
Anyone who is factually knowledgeable or "acquainted" with Israel and it's security apparatus, knows that neither Hamas nor e.g. Hezbollah releases a fart - without Israel knowing. Those terrorist organizations are thoroughly "infected" with people who report to and even act on Israels command or influence - since even the higher positions are held by Israeli payed and "converted" members and or Hamas members who don't realize onto whose "ideas", "incitement" and "orders" they actually act upon.
As such some Hamas troop leader or Battalion commander - wouldn't even know as to who "directed/initiated" those orders given to him by his e.g. Brigade commander.
Who leads Hamas? just to name a few, Ismail Haniyeh?, Khaled Mashaal?- the guy whom Netanyahu provided the antidote after a botched poisoning attempt that Netanhayu had ordered. Marwan Issa? Ali Barakeh? Mohammed Deif aka Diab al-Masri,? Yahya Sinwar? Mr. X? Mr. Y? as such who ordered that attack?? and on behalf of whom??
The only one who gave a statement in regards to the Oct. 7th attack on the same day was Deif - the paraplegic - broadcasting: "Al-Aqsa Flood" has begun, the positions and fortifications of the enemy have been targeted by 5,000 rockets and shells during the first 20 minutes.
None of those leaders nor a Hamas spokesperson was even able to name a conclusive figure of those participating in the attack until today - aside from stating; "hundreds" took part, !!
The only fellow who gave a clear statement on Oct. 12th as to the reason of the attack was Ali Barakeh:
The Oct. 7 attack came in response to "Israeli crimes against the Palestinian people in Jerusalem and the West Bank" and to "break the blockade on the Gaza Strip." and "it was also meant to free thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails".
There we have it - how does e.g. Hamas get Israel to release Palestinian prisoners? well as they have done very successfully in the past, incl. the release of Yahya Sinwar in a hostage deal with Israel.
1. Israel aka Netanyahu knew about an impending attack - he didn't know or realize the actual intend. - hostages
2. Having been aware about the impending attack - he realized his chances for "ridding himself of the political opposition" via taking Gaza and proclaiming victory over Hamas due to a "justified" Israeli retaliation.
3. He deliberately ordered an 8 hour stand down upon knowing that the attack was in progress and had additionally transferred IDF units away from the Gaza Envelope the week prior.
4. Upon IDF HQ realizing that Hamas wasn't simply gunning down civilians but trying to take them as hostages whilst foremost engaging the present IDF members in the Gaza Envelope - the backwards stationed IDF units were immediately tasked, to counterattack via artillery, missiles and air strikes - killing God knows how many civilians.
5. Realizing the carnage the IDF had caused - ISIS like - atrocity accusations towards Hamas were spun.
6. accusing Iran - might help to get those naive Americans into a war with Iran - which e.g. Mossad had already successfully demonstrated via supplying and confirming the WMD bullshit in Iraq.