California's Environmental Policies Are Making the Wildfires Worse

[marvin martian]

Right now, there is not solution. And with your orange cheeto making threats, there won't be either. The solution is to wait until the weather normalizes. This includes almost 2000 miles away where I live. I am in walking distance from the Colorado River that makes up most of what is stored in Lake Powell which California heavily depends on. The Federal Funds are highly needed. Call it a partial repayment for all those decades that your Red Areas have been supported by the wealthy Blue States.

There are no blue states, only blue cities. And they're uniformly shitholes of crime, filth, and perversion.

 

[martybegan]

Right now, there is not solution. And with your orange cheeto making threats, there won't be either. The solution is to wait until the weather normalizes. This includes almost 2000 miles away where I live. I am in walking distance from the Colorado River that makes up most of what is stored in Lake Powell which California heavily depends on. The Federal Funds are highly needed. Call it a partial repayment for all those decades that your Red Areas have been supported by the wealthy Blue States.

The solution was 30 years ago to build more dams to hold onto the rainwater that does fall is captured and used, and maybe stop people from building dense developments on land banging right up to chaparral wilderness.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

 

[Vrenn]

There are no blue states, only blue cities. And they're uniformly shitholes of crime, filth, and perversion.

You forget about Colorado which the majority of the state is made up of either leaning left or downright Liberals. Yes, we do have 2 districts that are primarily red leaning of downright MAGA right now (notice, I didn't say Republican) but the other districts vote primarily Democrat.

And the last time I checked, Cities and Town were part of our state. Maybe not where you live since your population is probably so low that the most you can come up with is a Hovel.

 

[EMH]

So you want to go to desalination of Sea Water. The only time it's cost affective is if you have little or no rainfall like Saudi Arabia. The Middle East and North Africa comprise of the majority of the desalination plants because the option of shipping it from a more wet country is both extremely expensive and cost prohibitive.



The US also uses it to some extent for drinking water. It costs too much to use for agriculture if there are any other alternatives. The MIddle East uses for both agriculture and drinking because in many areas, the only water is sea water.

Desalination is a lot cheaper than CO2 FRAUD.

With 1/10th the CO2 FRAUD budget, we could have large scale desal plants in every major coastal city.

 

[EMH]

Desalinization is very energy intensive, either through boiling of water, or through high pressure membrane processes such as reverse osmosis.

Either way the energy input required is massive to provide the volumes that would be needed.

The membranes are expensive, and it does require some power, but relatively, compared to exactly what was discussed earlier, it is incredibly cheap.

Hollywood certainly has money too.

But the money should come from zeroing out CO2 FRAUD.

 

[Oddball]

Well, well, it turns out that Gov. Newsom's radical environmental agenda is making it much harder for firefighters to fight the wildfires now raging in California. Among other failings, back in 2019 Newsom refused to sign a water restoration measure that would have made much more water available to firefighters. Fire hydrants have been running dry at crucial times and in critical areas. Newsom rejected the measure in order to protect a rare species of fish! California has also failed to keep up with brush clearing, leaving tons of highly flammable brush sitting around.

Just the News is running an insightful story on this scandal. Here's a brief excerpt:

Years before wildfires reduced Los Angeles’ most famous neighborhoods to charred rubble and forced thousands to flee, audits and reports repeatedly raised concerns that California’s water management and fire prevention policies would one day lead to a catastrophic inferno.

The concerns ranged from failed regulatory efforts to make utility transmission wires more fire safe to the management of vegetation and brush clearing and water supplies in an oft drought-stricken state, according to documents reviewed by Just the News.

A major problem that first responders have been facing amid this week’s wildfires is fire hydrants drying up, resulting in a lack of water to get the fires under control. . . .

President-elect Donald Trump slammed Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying if he had signed a water restoration declaration back in 2019, there would have been enough water to manage the fires. (Years before LA inferno, California’s fire and water management policies raised fears of catastrophe)

Yeah, we already knew this when the Old Fire damn near incinerated Lake Arrowhead in '03....What else is new?

 

[marvin martian]

You forget about Colorado which the majority of the state is made up of either leaning left or downright Liberals. Yes, we do have 2 districts that are primarily red leaning of downright MAGA right now (notice, I didn't say Republican) but the other districts vote primarily Democrat.

And the last time I checked, Cities and Town were part of our state. Maybe not where you live since your population is probably so low that the most you can come up with is a Hovel.

I live in Texas, you retard.

 

[Vrenn]

I live in Texas, you retard.

In case you haven't noticed, the red parts of Texas are made up primarily of rural and Hovels.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Is that the most recent Conspiracy?

If you think the truth is a conspiracy, then yes.

 

[martybegan]

The membranes are expensive, and it does require some power, but relatively, compared to exactly what was discussed earlier, it is incredibly cheap.

Hollywood certainly has money too.

But the money should come from zeroing out CO2 FRAUD.

Do you know the pressures that have to be created to make this stuff work?

And saltwater is notoriously corrosive, adding to the issues.

 

[EMH]

Do you know the pressures that have to be created to make this stuff work?

And saltwater is notoriously corrosive, adding to the issues.

If you use metal. If you use PCP, salt does nothing.

Yes, it requires pressure.

But it is a lot cheaper that rebuilding what just burned in Hollywood...

 

[22lcidw]

You forget about Colorado which the majority of the state is made up of either leaning left or downright Liberals. Yes, we do have 2 districts that are primarily red leaning of downright MAGA right now (notice, I didn't say Republican) but the other districts vote primarily Democrat.

And the last time I checked, Cities and Town were part of our state. Maybe not where you live since your population is probably so low that the most you can come up with is a Hovel.

Progs moved there in enough numbers to turn it blue. As in other states. Yu got too stupid. And many of the Prog politicians are cardboard cutouts. What is good knows how to respond in a crisis. Unfortunately, we have politicians who have helped t cause one crisis after another. The resources wasted in California is a disgrace.

 

[Mac-7]

Desalination is a lot cheaper than CO2 FRAUD.

With 1/10th the CO2 FRAUD budget, we could have large scale desal plants in every major coastal city.

I am no expert on this topic

But my layman’s impression is that there is plenty of water in the north of california that could be moved south via aquaducts

 

[EMH]

I am no expert on this topic

But my layman’s impression is that there is plenty of water in the north of california that could be moved south via aquaducts

OK, something needs to be done to add water.

But the motive is to keep the fires increasing, and blame CO2 FRAUD for them.

Aqueducts are not cheap.

 

[Mac-7]

OK, something needs to be done to add water.

But the motive is to keep the fires increasing, and blame CO2 FRAUD for them.

Aqueducts are not cheap.

I think greenie-woke-lesbo-dems are stupid but not that evil

Burn down LA so that enviro wackos can blame it on CO2?

Libs are not smart enough to carry off such a vast and complicated plan

 

[EMH]

I think greenie-woke-lesbo-dems are stupid but not that evil

Burn down LA so that enviro wackos can blame it on CO2?

Libs are not smart enough to carry off such a vast and complicated plan

Everything about the Democrat Party is about...

1. increasing government reach and control
2. increasing government spending
3. stealing as much as possible from the taxpayer in the process
4. giving preferential treatment to supporters and hell to those who notice too much


YES THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH to pull off big time hoaxes...

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CO2 FRAUD

The leaders are, at least. The rank and file Dems who actually "believe" what all the top Dems know is complete BS are really too stupid to be allowed to self ID as human.