California's Environmental Policies Are Making the Wildfires Worse

[mikegriffith1]

Well, well, it turns out that Gov. Newsom's radical environmental agenda is making it much harder for firefighters to fight the wildfires now raging in California. Among other failings, back in 2019 Newsom refused to sign a water restoration measure that would have made much more water available to firefighters. Fire hydrants have been running dry at crucial times and in critical areas. Newsom rejected the measure in order to protect a rare species of fish! California has also failed to keep up with brush clearing, leaving tons of highly flammable brush sitting around.

Just the News is running an insightful story on this scandal. Here's a brief excerpt:

Years before wildfires reduced Los Angeles’ most famous neighborhoods to charred rubble and forced thousands to flee, audits and reports repeatedly raised concerns that California’s water management and fire prevention policies would one day lead to a catastrophic inferno.

The concerns ranged from failed regulatory efforts to make utility transmission wires more fire safe to the management of vegetation and brush clearing and water supplies in an oft drought-stricken state, according to documents reviewed by Just the News.

A major problem that first responders have been facing amid this week’s wildfires is fire hydrants drying up, resulting in a lack of water to get the fires under control. . . .

President-elect Donald Trump slammed Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying if he had signed a water restoration declaration back in 2019, there would have been enough water to manage the fires. (Years before LA inferno, California’s fire and water management policies raised fears of catastrophe)

 

[EMH]

It also helps to diagnose the problem correctly.

The CO2 FRAUD misdiagnoses the fires. It blames "warming" not happening. The real cause is too many humans consuming too much of finite land based fresh water supplies, making plant life DRY...


CO2 FRAUD is the problem.

 

[Vrenn]

Well, well, it turns out that Gov. Newsom's radical environmental agenda is making it much harder for firefighters to fight the wildfires now raging in California. Among other failings, back in 2019 Newsom refused to sign a water restoration measure that would have made much more water available to firefighters. Fire hydrants have been running dry at crucial times and in critical areas. Newsom rejected the measure in order to protect a rare species of fish! California has also failed to keep up with brush clearing, leaving tons of highly flammable brush sitting around.

Just the News is running an insightful story on this scandal. Here's a brief excerpt:

Years before wildfires reduced Los Angeles’ most famous neighborhoods to charred rubble and forced thousands to flee, audits and reports repeatedly raised concerns that California’s water management and fire prevention policies would one day lead to a catastrophic inferno.

The concerns ranged from failed regulatory efforts to make utility transmission wires more fire safe to the management of vegetation and brush clearing and water supplies in an oft drought-stricken state, according to documents reviewed by Just the News.

A major problem that first responders have been facing amid this week’s wildfires is fire hydrants drying up, resulting in a lack of water to get the fires under control. . . .

President-elect Donald Trump slammed Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying if he had signed a water restoration declaration back in 2019, there would have been enough water to manage the fires. (Years before LA inferno, California’s fire and water management policies raised fears of catastrophe)

And if we are not sending that water downstream, exactly where is LA going to get it?

 

[tyroneweaver]

It also helps to diagnose the problem correctly.

The CO2 FRAUD misdiagnoses the fires. It blames "warming" not happening. The real cause is too many humans consuming too much of finite land based fresh water supplies, making plant life DRY...


CO2 FRAUD is the problem.

California had a record precipitation year, and sent it all to the ocean. So I don't accept your reasoning

 

[EMH]

And if we are not sending that water downstream, exactly where is LA going to get it?

Desalinating ocean water.

That is the temporary SOLUTION blocked by CO2 FRAUD's misdiagnosis.

CO2 FRAUD loves the fires. The media blames CO2 FRAUD for the fires.

 

[EMH]

California had a record precipitation year, and sent it all to the ocean. So I don't accept your reasoning

Trapping the runoff is also a SOLUTION that CO2 FRAUD doesn't want.

CO2 FRAUD wants FIRES.

Because Tommy Tainant comes here and blames "warming" for them...

 

[Dr.Destructo]

CA has water. It's a fucking COASTAL state!!!!

CA has ALWAYS been a "dry" state. Most of it is desert type land anyway.

But the CORRUPT people they keep putting into political offices NEVER CAN BE BOTHERED with constructing desalinazation plants and setting up wildfire suppression systems in the state.

The state can also NOT be bothered with forcing home constructions to install property and home safety fire supression systems as basic needs for all constructed residences.

Hell, the RICH people who waste MILLIONS of dollars on these huge mansions can't even be bothered with having fire supression systems installed on the properties or in the homes.

So don't start whining about it all when Mother Nature decides to try and cleanse the state again from the human disease of Democrats and Liberals out to turn this country into a Nazi camp.

The ONLY sympathy I will give, is for the animals in that state.

Burn baby..........BURN!!!!!

 

[Vrenn]

Desalinating ocean water.

That is the temporary SOLUTION blocked by CO2 FRAUD's misdiagnosis.

CO2 FRAUD loves the fires. The media blames CO2 FRAUD for the fires.

So you want to go to desalination of Sea Water. The only time it's cost affective is if you have little or no rainfall like Saudi Arabia. The Middle East and North Africa comprise of the majority of the desalination plants because the option of shipping it from a more wet country is both extremely expensive and cost prohibitive.



The US also uses it to some extent for drinking water. It costs too much to use for agriculture if there are any other alternatives. The MIddle East uses for both agriculture and drinking because in many areas, the only water is sea water.

 

[marvin martian]

It's okay, no homes burned in Ukraine. The people who matter are safe.

LA Sent Firefighting Equipment To Ukraine, Biden Preps Handout​

The LA County Fire Department shipped equipment to Ukraine in 2022, and now Biden is working to give the nation millions more in handouts.

thefederalist.com

 

[Dr.Destructo]

So you want to go to desalination of Sea Water. The only time it's cost affective is if you have little or no rainfall like Saudi Arabia. The Middle East and North Africa comprise of the majority of the desalination plants because the option of shipping it from a more wet country is both extremely expensive and cost prohibitive.



The US also uses it to some extent for drinking water. It costs too much to use for agriculture if there are any other alternatives. The MIddle East uses for both agriculture and drinking because in many areas, the only water is sea water.

It's more optimum for a govenment to make sea water useable for its people than to create billion dollar wars to hide the fact they are money laundering the peoples tax dollars.

 

[Vrenn]

It's more optimum for a govenment to make sea water useable for its people than to create billion dollar wars to hide the fact they are money laundering the peoples tax dollars.

Is that the most recent Conspiracy?

 

[martybegan]

So you want to go to desalination of Sea Water. The only time it's cost affective is if you have little or no rainfall like Saudi Arabia. The Middle East and North Africa comprise of the majority of the desalination plants because the option of shipping it from a more wet country is both extremely expensive and cost prohibitive.



The US also uses it to some extent for drinking water. It costs too much to use for agriculture if there are any other alternatives. The MIddle East uses for both agriculture and drinking because in many areas, the only water is sea water.

Desalinization is very energy intensive, either through boiling of water, or through high pressure membrane processes such as reverse osmosis.

Either way the energy input required is massive to provide the volumes that would be needed.

 

[ColonelAngus]

So you want to go to desalination of Sea Water. The only time it's cost affective is if you have little or no rainfall like Saudi Arabia. The Middle East and North Africa comprise of the majority of the desalination plants because the option of shipping it from a more wet country is both extremely expensive and cost prohibitive.



The US also uses it to some extent for drinking water. It costs too much to use for agriculture if there are any other alternatives. The MIddle East uses for both agriculture and drinking because in many areas, the only water is sea water.

Cost effective?

How cost effective are these fires?

Do the math on property and life loss versus Desalinization.

Sea water could be used to fight fires as well. It certainly is not as damaging to the area to stop fires with sea water as opposed to scorched earth.

Your solution is there is no solution?

All of California’s climate change initiatives are not obviously not working.

 

[WEATHER53]

Do they still have that no trimming dead brush policy in effect over some wood ticks? . People should be required to cut and Not prohibited

 

[martybegan]

Cost effective?

How cost effective are these fires?

Do the math on property and life loss versus Desalinization.

Sea water could be used to fight fires as well. It certainly is not as damaging to the area to stop fires with sea water as opposed to scorched earth.

Your solution is there is no solution?

All of California’s climate change initiatives are not obviously not working.

Needing water to fight fires this big is losing the battle.

And even if the plants were online, production would still be outmoded by demand.

Preventing things like this is the only really effective way to handle it, and it requires things like proscribed burns, letting small fires burn naturally, and clearing of deadfall from the worst congested areas, left over from the old days of "fight every fire right away no matter what"

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[ColonelAngus]

Needing water to fight fires this big is losing the battle.

And even if the plants were online, production would still be outmoded by demand.

Preventing things like this is the only really effective way to handle it, and it requires things like proscribed burns, letting small fires burn naturally, and clearing of deadfall from the worst congested areas, left over from the old days of "fight every fire right away no matter what"

20,000 acre fires begin as 1 acre fires. Thousands of acres do not spontaneously combust at once.

 

[martybegan]

20,000 acre fires begin as 1 acre fires. Thousands of acres do not spontaneously combust at once.

And they had plenty of water to fight that 1 acre fire probably, or even a 100 acre fire, at least the ones that encroach of suburban or urban areas.

It's when that fire front approaches a wide front all at once that the battle is already lost.

 

[Independent thinker]

Well, well, it turns out that Gov. Newsom's radical environmental agenda is making it much harder for firefighters to fight the wildfires now raging in California. Among other failings, back in 2019 Newsom refused to sign a water restoration measure that would have made much more water available to firefighters. Fire hydrants have been running dry at crucial times and in critical areas. Newsom rejected the measure in order to protect a rare species of fish! California has also failed to keep up with brush clearing, leaving tons of highly flammable brush sitting around.

Just the News is running an insightful story on this scandal. Here's a brief excerpt:

Years before wildfires reduced Los Angeles’ most famous neighborhoods to charred rubble and forced thousands to flee, audits and reports repeatedly raised concerns that California’s water management and fire prevention policies would one day lead to a catastrophic inferno.

The concerns ranged from failed regulatory efforts to make utility transmission wires more fire safe to the management of vegetation and brush clearing and water supplies in an oft drought-stricken state, according to documents reviewed by Just the News.

A major problem that first responders have been facing amid this week’s wildfires is fire hydrants drying up, resulting in a lack of water to get the fires under control. . . .

President-elect Donald Trump slammed Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom, saying if he had signed a water restoration declaration back in 2019, there would have been enough water to manage the fires. (Years before LA inferno, California’s fire and water management policies raised fears of catastrophe)

Unfortunately, there is only one way to deal with the leftards in California, sit back and let them destroy themselves.

 

[Vrenn]

Cost effective?

How cost effective are these fires?

Do the math on property and life loss versus Desalinization.

Sea water could be used to fight fires as well. It certainly is not as damaging to the area to stop fires with sea water as opposed to scorched earth.

Your solution is there is no solution?

All of California’s climate change initiatives are not obviously not working.

Right now, there is not solution. And with your orange cheeto making threats, there won't be either. The solution is to wait until the weather normalizes. This includes almost 2000 miles away where I live. I am in walking distance from the Colorado River that makes up most of what is stored in Lake Powell which California heavily depends on. The Federal Funds are highly needed. Call it a partial repayment for all those decades that your Red Areas have been supported by the wealthy Blue States.